AA388 From Puerto Rico, joined Sep 2007, 304 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6159 times:
How come there are no pictures of this aircraft in Sao Paulo? And why havent we heard very much about it? What is the confugruation like inside? Does it have the suites like on the A345?
Bok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2105 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6064 times:
The route has only been served for a month. Give it some time. The 77Ls don't have suites IIRC.
Propilotjw From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 585 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5825 times:
"Emirates' technologically-advanced 777-200LR will offer eight luxurious private suites in First class, 42 of its latest lie-flat seats in Business class, and generous space for 216 passengers in Economy."
Quoted from AME Info - The Middle East Business Resource
You can find Boeing stock pics of the EK 777200LR with a google search.
I just finished an EK trip JFK-DXB-BKK-SYD-DXB-JFK over the past two weeks and can tell you the newest 777-300ER lie flat business class seats and newest ICE IFE is simply amazing. Put the A345 to shame!
Bok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2105 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5579 times:
Quoting EK773 (Reply 2): B77L registration A6-EWA onwards and B77W registration A6-ECA onwards are fitted with suites in First Class.
TinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5409 times:
I saw it at JFK last week. Sorry, no pics!
"Flying isn't inherently dangerous...but very unforgiving of carelessness, incapacity or neglect."
S.P.A.S. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 950 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5190 times:
Well well...
Operating times in/out GRU are not very photography friendly, added to the fact the airport itself does not offer many photo spots from inside the building. Landing shots are not possible due the fact it is a dusk arrival.
Anyway, I managed to grab a shot of her, not a.net quality, but works for the sake of historical preservation
Haan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4851 times:
AA388 the A340-500 can go to GRU direct with no problem, but to be honest, the A345 is a bad aircraft. It burns to much fuel, that's why airlines are getting rid of theirs for the B777-200LR like Air Canada and perhaps Thai in the future. Emirates bought the B777-200LR especially for the long haul routes they are planning in the future like DXB-GRU now and DXB-IAH from December. Future routes for the B777-200LR might be DXB-LAX that is the same time as DXB-IAH but takes it over the north pole. emirates B777-200LR and B777-300ER GE angined aircraft are now 207 ETOPS certified, so they can do the long flights and I bet we will see the B777-200LR do most of the long haul flights for the next few years until the successor is announced.
Aerohottie From Australia, joined Mar 2004, 735 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4630 times:
Quoting Propilotjw (Reply 3): I just finished an EK trip JFK-DXB-BKK-SYD-DXB-JFK over the past two weeks and can tell you the newest 777-300ER lie flat business class seats and newest ICE IFE is simply amazing. Put the A345 to shame!
What a load of rubbish... Yes the 773ER is a bit better, due it having a newer version of the same product (eg flat C class seats vs angled seats etc). But it DOES NOT put the A345 to shame... esp not in Y class. The 773ER is also quite a bit loader in the cabin. Although I do personally prefer the 773ER as an aircraft, to say that the 773ER puts the A345 to shame is just rediculous.
Haan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4058 times:
Emirates got special permission to use 207 ETOPS. They are still working to get the full 240min from the GCAA thou. How did they get to 207min u ask. Its all got to do with the fire suppression in the air. The B777 can suppress a cargo fire for 33min, before all hell brakes loose. So they deducted the 33min from 240, and that's what gives u the 207min ETOPS.
PropilotJW From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 585 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3635 times:
Quoting Aerohottie (Reply 11): What a load of rubbish... Yes the 773ER is a bit better, due it having a newer version of the same product (eg flat C class seats vs angled seats etc). But it DOES NOT put the A345 to shame... esp not in Y class. The 773ER is also quite a bit loader in the cabin. Although I do personally prefer the 773ER as an aircraft, to say that the 773ER puts the A345 to shame is just rediculous.
What a load of rubbish? Those are your thoughts. It was my perspective having flown on both aircraft. To each their own Think what you may!
Marco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4161 posts, RR: 17 Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3606 times:
What a load of rubbish... Yes the 773ER is a bit better, due it having a newer version of the same product (eg flat C class seats vs angled seats etc). But it DOES NOT put the A345 to shame... esp not in Y class. The 773ER is also quite a bit loader in the cabin. Although I do personally prefer the 773ER as an aircraft, to say that the 773ER puts the A345 to shame is just rediculous.
It's his freakin' opinion for God's sake. There's no room for that kind of behaviour on this forum...
Antskip From Australia, joined Jan 2006, 883 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3571 times:
Quoting Marco (Reply 14): There's no room for that kind of behaviour on this forum...
Actually, it lives very well on this forum. - The A345-as-enemy brigade are alive and well: like the comment above:
Quoting Haan (Reply 8): the A345 is a bad aircraft
I also have flown on both. Love both. Prefer the B773, but the A345 is wonderful too, especially as EK have fitted it out. It is a much smaller aircraft, but can fly for ever, and is quieter than the Boeing. Overall though, EK's A345 's as well as its B773's are both incredibly lovely aircraft to fly on. Of course, that is only my point of view.
You saw the Boeing 777-300ER which operates EK201/202 and EK203/204. We haven't seen the Boeing 777-200LR and probably won't for a while. Both aircraft have been busy operating EK261/262 with the occasional flight to London thrown in.
AA388 From Puerto Rico, joined Sep 2007, 304 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3328 times:
Does anyone know what route the 777-200LR takes? IE does it go over the north pole the south? Also, i think Emirates just upgraded the 777's interior and im betting they have plans to change the interior in the A345.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3068 times:
Quoting Haan (Reply 8): It burns to much fuel, that's why airlines are getting rid of theirs for the B777-200LR like Air Canada and perhaps Thai in the future.
It burns a minor amount more fuel, yes. Other than AC, please list some airlines getting rid of them. Thai is not one.
Quoting ETFokker50 (Reply 10): I think that's ETOPS 270 there, not 207... It's measured in minutes - 270 minutes being 4.5 hours.
207 is the maximum available anywhere in the world these days. In the US, its done on a route-by-route basis, it can't even be done for a whole carrier.
Pnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2046 posts, RR: 12 Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2957 times:
In the case of AC they have found that 77L and the extra cargo that is carries makes a real difference over the A345. AC isn't using the maximum range because the ability to cover the distance without any payload restrictions is a big boon.
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2884 times:
Quoting Haan (Reply 8): Future routes for the B777-200LR might be DXB-LAX that is the same time as DXB-IAH but takes it over the north pole.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2643 times:
It hasn't been announced at all, and I don't believe it will fly with a 777-200LR.
Emirates really wants to fly that route with a 748i sized aircraft. Given that the 748i can't fly it, presumably it will have to be with an A380.
EK's approach isn't always fly a smaller full plane and get high yield. They want to seat lots of folks and maximize connecting opportunities to keep other planes full.
OldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3206 posts, RR: 66 Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2603 times:
Quoting Gigneil (Reply 20): 207 is the maximum available anywhere in the world these days. In the US, its done on a route-by-route basis, it can't even be done for a whole carrier.
The FAA has provided the regulations for LROPS operations up to 330 min if the airplane type involved has the basic capability.
Airplane design is easy, the difficulty is getting them to fly - Barnes Wallis
25 Flying Belgian: How are the loads for EK on the GRU route ? FB.
26 KC135TopBoom: I'm just surprised the B-777-200LR or the A-340-500 each have enough range for EK.
27 Gigneil: I am surprised that either have the right balance of capability and range. EK is an amazingly well run business. If only other airlines so carefully c
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