BuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2493 posts, RR: 3 Posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 25308 times:
Starting next Friday, Ryanair will sell calendars on board, showing its own FA's in "exciting ways". It will show both male and female FAs and spokesman David Gering says that although they'll show "the occasional breast part" it will be decent enough.
The revenue will go to Orbis, a charity organisation that helps avoiding blindness among children in developing countries.
Disclaimer: I included the picture that the article showed - I am not sure if this picture really came from the calendar! Well at least MOL is already excited...
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 25293 times:
Just goes to show - just when you thought FR couldn't get any more chav-like, they'll pull another stunt like this. How can anyone take them seriously ?
Shamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 5292 posts, RR: 17 Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 25294 times:
That poor 737!
Well at least the calender is for charity and not profit for FR. It's a good idea, I'm sure lots of chavs flying to Spain for some cheap winter sun will buy them.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 7930 posts, RR: 66 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 24740 times:
Jeez, can Ryanair sink any lower? The images are utter trash - they could at least have gotten a creative photographer in to shoot something of worth for a calender... that is if this isn't just a hoax - none of the pictures shown feature FR aircraft... although the editorial department could have just been short so dived into image banks for them.
Bramble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 24559 times:
Just looked at that pic again. i assume you noticed that it is a pic of women from the 70s or 80s? Look at the hairstyles. And they are far too old to be FR cabin crew,average age there would be 22-25.
Fridgmus From Iraq, joined Oct 2006, 655 posts, RR: 4 Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 22658 times:
Quoting Jpdflymhtmlb (Reply 10): That pic seems oddly familiar...wasn't there a group of older flight attendants from the US that made a calendar a while back?
Quoting Mach3 (Reply 17): The calander showing the FA's was put together by Ex United Airlines FA's I was sold online last year, I forget the URL for the sale of the calander.
I had that particular calendar. I have just completed a move and it's packed in a box somewhere! They are the self-proclaimed "Stews" from UA and most are still F/A's, although I don't know if they are still with UA.
They are protesting UA cutting their retirement benefits. The calendars are suggestive but no nudity.
The Lockheed Super Constellation, the REAL Queen of the Skies!
QantasHeavy From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 379 posts, RR: 2 Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 21483 times:
Haha... yesy I see what you mean. Now the girl in the aisle shold have been the poster girl... not the girls who look like the starting lineup for the Pittsburg Steelers or rugby league team in the first photo in the thread. I think the one in the middle looks like "she" has a bigger ###### than the guy with the 737.
Gkirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23818 posts, RR: 69 Reply 26, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 21259 times:
LTBEWR From United States, joined Jan 2004, 9323 posts, RR: 7 Reply 27, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 20924 times:
I am quite sure that Ryanair has a significant percentage of beautiful women (and men) among their staff. Perhaps better would be a calender of some of them in tasteful bathing suits or other attractive outfits with the background of landmarks of cities or countries they serve and where their staff is from. You could have Erin from Ireland posing in a white tank bathing suit along the Liffy in the city center of Dublin, Gretchen of Hann in a bright red 2 piece in front of an old castle in Germany and Tatiana with a tight low cut pheasant blouse in front of an old palace in Riga.
Of course, some of us here would prefer scenes of their aircraft, in flight, but for us, they would only raise a few Euros for charity. If the idea is charity, that is fine, perhaps one connected with the UN that helps children.
By the way that picture of MOL with the a/c model is very disturbing. But it probably does describe his personality very well.
Ryanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 28, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 20729 times:
I don't see anything wrong with this idea, it just gives FR bashers another chance to slate Ryanair.
Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 2): I'm sure lots of chavs flying to Spain for some cheap winter sun will buy them.
I think you will find most chavs in the UK fly on the charter airlines rather than LCCs. Look at T1/T2 in the Summer at Manchester and you will know what I mean.
Gkirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23818 posts, RR: 69 Reply 29, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 20573 times:
Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 28): I think you will find most chavs in the UK fly on the charter airlines rather than LCCs.
And I think you'll find that most chavs can't afford a passport never mind a holiday
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 32, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 20089 times:
From a man who once commented on putting pornography on aircraft what can one expect? I think this sends out a terrible image of cabin crew too. I thought they wanted to be thought as more than glamour girls? How demeaning and also embarassing for many passengers, particularly religious and older passengers.
Strudders From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 109 posts, RR: 0 Reply 34, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 19945 times:
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1): Just goes to show - just when you thought FR couldn't get any more chav-like, they'll pull another stunt like this. How can anyone take them seriously ?
I am not the greatest fan of FR or MOL, however why is this "Chav-like". I am sorry but I fail to see why this should be an issue.
Before passing judgement please consider the following:
Sevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0 Reply 35, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 19710 times:
It's a shame to see FR regarded as a charver airline. It was only a few weeks ago that an announcement was made that FR carry more 'posh' people than BA.
They were F/A in their 50's who were raising awareness/ protesting pension issues (loss of)....Mostly ex UA ladies but now it has grown to include other airlines
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Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 5645 posts, RR: 56 Reply 38, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 18089 times:
Quoting Cumulus (Reply 24): Amazing example of business sucess, but he is a total pr*ck.
I think he's probably a business success partly *because* he's a total prick (apparently).
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 32): I think this sends out a terrible image of cabin crew too. I thought they wanted to be thought as more than glamour girls?
Isn't it up to the cabin crew to decide what image they want to project? If they want to do it, that's up to them, not us.
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 32): How demeaning and also embarassing for many passengers, particularly religious and older passengers.
I'm a little unclear on how this is embarrassing or demeaning to the passengers. If you find it embarrassing, don't buy one. As for demeaning...don't be an FR flight attendant, I guess.
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 43, posted (2 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 12453 times:
This has set back then reputation/image many FAs have been fighting for years. It reflects on them and their profession. Its cheap, tawdy and demeaning to all cabin crew, not just FR
Strudders From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 109 posts, RR: 0 Reply 45, posted (2 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 12291 times:
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 43): This has set back then reputation/image many FAs have been fighting for years. It reflects on them and their profession. Its cheap, tawdy and demeaning to all cabin crew, not just FR
So the staff that took part in this Charity calendar were coerced? told to do so? had it in their contract?
or did somebody think that:
"This is would be a good idea to make some money with the companies backing, that is fun, not too OTT an well worth applauding"
Oh sorry forgot, these FA's obviously speak for every FA flying the world today.
Please.
I am sure the list of volunteers for this calendar far exceeded the 12 that got put in.
You may find it cheap and Tawdy, but tell that to the hundreds of children and old folk who can see as a result.
Please see my other post and then tell me if those group of staff also belittle there respective groups.
Stickers From South Africa, joined Sep 2007, 100 posts, RR: 0 Reply 46, posted (2 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 12238 times:
Lets just get some perspective here...
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1): Just goes to show - just when you thought FR couldn't get any more chav-like, they'll pull another stunt like this. How can anyone take them seriously ?
LCC's have revolutionized air travel. Their aim is to make air travel affordable, fun, and something everyone can enjoy. They have (in all the LCC's i have flown) been deliberate in moving away from the image that flying is only for the rich and famous. If one is a person who still regards flying as being for only those with the big bucks, and wants to fly in a very serious, stiff-upper lip, aristocratic atmoshphere, then by all means, DON"T BY A LCC TICKET!! This is just something that FR thinks is fun and will help charity. FR along with many others have opened up the skies, to all regular people, most of whom are not shocked and offeded by such pictures.
I guess, if you are like me, i simply would choose not to buy the calender. But i wouldn't be offended that FR was offering it. I mean its not like they are giving them away free with your ticket, you have a choice. I mean think abou it, the local newsagent and corner store sell FHM magazines as well as informative publications and newspapers. Does this offend me, ...no. I simply choose what i buy. Guys, lighten up a little, and in terms of them being a serious airline and competitor, i think that Tdscanuck said it best...
Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 4): You just need to take their financials and stock price seriously.
Quoting Commavia (Reply 15): Is Ryanair trying intentionally to become the "official airline of flying trash," or is it just the natural evolution of their "brand?"
Oh Pleeez.... See my previous paragraph
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 32): How demeaning and also embarassing for many passengers, particularly religious and older passengers.
Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 38): I'm a little unclear on how this is embarrassing or demeaning to the passengers. If you find it embarrassing, don't buy one. As for demeaning...don't be an FR flight attendant, I guess
Agreed, i am religious, and every time i read an inflight magazine, or any magazine for that matter there are suggestive pictures or adverts. (And no, i am not talking about those sort of magazines . ) For that matter on the way to the airport, there's some gorgeous woman on a 20 meter billboard wearing a wonderbra, and a little furthur on is some lovely lady wearing next to nothing eating some ice cream. Its all about freedom of expression and the same freedom that they are exercising allows me to practice my religion freely. I don't have to like it, but then i don't have to buy the product either.
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 47, posted (2 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 12243 times:
If they wanted to model half naked then why dont they give up the 'day' job and go into |Penthouse modelling! I do think lots of FAs will be embarassed about this and it seems to glorify and reinstall the image that they all have to be the perfect size and shape.
Strudders From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 109 posts, RR: 0 Reply 48, posted (2 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 12162 times:
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 48): If they wanted to model half naked then why dont they give up the 'day' job and go into |Penthouse modelling! I do think lots of FAs will be embarassed about this and it seems to glorify and reinstall the image that they all have to be the perfect size and shape.
I take your point, but you are missing the whole issue here.
If this was the norm for these staff, if their uniform was overtly sexual and demeaning, they were all the same body shape with assets to match then yes, it would be a disgrace and deeming for all, not only for the staff but also for woman and men in general (you forget Men have the same insecurities as well)
Now the fact that this is a one off, for charity, voluntary and no more demeaning that a perfume ad or a wonder bra (cheers Stickers) ad, then No. I am sorry I dont think it falls into that category. However I am not a Woman or an FA so I do come from a slightly left of Field view.
However If hundreds of FA's state on the board that its demeaning and embarrassing then I will get back in my box and reevaluate my social views on life!
MIAMIx707 From Cuba, joined Oct 2003, 4619 posts, RR: 51 Reply 53, posted (2 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11937 times:
rofl.. @ George Bush^^
Maybe those who are criticizing it are gay? It seems that's true. If they were selling a mechanic macho man of the month cal. you'll read a lot less complaining.
senator McCain, thank you for your honorable service
Mirrodie From United States, joined Apr 2000, 6739 posts, RR: 72 Reply 58, posted (2 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11397 times:
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Quoting QantasHeavy (Reply 13): Ughhh -- those FAs look pretty old and butch
I don't know. While the photos from the calendar feature some nice looking gals, even the first photo shows some pretty toned women, even if butch and old. In better shape than me!
Sketty222 From United Kingdom (England), joined Mar 2006, 1496 posts, RR: 2 Reply 59, posted (2 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11356 times:
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 21): Now, back on topic, any more images available? And am I the only one who finds it ironic that they're using visual sex appeal to benefit the blind?
Ha Ha
O'Leary is so brash and arrogant it is unbelievable. Could you really see any other airline CEO doing this?.... well apart from SRB
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 7930 posts, RR: 66 Reply 60, posted (2 years 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 11201 times:
Quoting Stickers (Reply 46): Oh Pleeez.... See my previous paragraph
Now that was in relation to the admittedly poor pictures which initially seemed to constitute the Calender. I'm FAR more satisfied with the calender as it is now
Abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 25 Reply 61, posted (2 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10832 times:
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1): Just goes to show - just when you thought FR couldn't get any more chav-like, they'll pull another stunt like this. How can anyone take them seriously ?
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 7): Jeez, can Ryanair sink any lower? The images are utter trash - they could at least have gotten a creative photographer in to shoot something of worth for a calender... that is if this isn't just a hoax - none of the pictures shown feature FR aircraft... although the editorial department could have just been short so dived into image banks for them.
Dan
= Oh come on people. Loosen up. As much as I am a total snobbish biatch, who would not fly FR, I can appreciate how savvy FR is to understand its market and adapt its products accordingly. Good job to FR to do something random. I think its hilarious. Can someone buy one for me PLEASE? Else, gotta search ebay!
I'm no fan of FR but fair play to them, it's a good idea and will make lots of money for charity. I'm sure many rspectable businessmen will buy these too, not just these "chavs" that make up all of Ryaniars clientele as some of you suggest. I think i need to travel on one of their flights, since buying one from e-Bay won't have the charitable effect.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 10360 posts, RR: 67 Reply 63, posted (2 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10506 times:
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 32): think this sends out a terrible image of cabin crew too. I thought they wanted to be thought as more than glamour girls?
Knowing a lot of FR cabin staff and having been at various FR crew parties, I doubt that the majority of the FA's would care about this issue. Most of them are a pretty relaxed, fun loving bunch.
BTW, the pictures posted on the Dutch website are defintely NOT FR crew.
BA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2827 posts, RR: 24 Reply 64, posted (2 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 10372 times:
Quoting BA787 (Reply 62): I'm no fan of FR but fair play to them, it's a good idea and will make lots of money for charity. I'm sure many rspectable businessmen will buy these too, not just these "chavs" that make up all of Ryaniars clientele as some of you suggest. I think i need to travel on one of their flights, since buying one from e-Bay won't have the charitable effect.
You can buy them off Ryanair's website - no need to fly them.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 7930 posts, RR: 66 Reply 66, posted (2 years 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10224 times:
Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 61): Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 7):
Jeez, can Ryanair sink any lower? The images are utter trash - they could at least have gotten a creative photographer in to shoot something of worth for a calender... that is if this isn't just a hoax - none of the pictures shown feature FR aircraft... although the editorial department could have just been short so dived into image banks for them.
Dan
= Oh come on people. Loosen up. As much as I am a total snobbish biatch, who would not fly FR, I can appreciate how savvy FR is to understand its market and adapt its products accordingly. Good job to FR to do something random. I think its hilarious.
Ahem, you may wish to re-read the context of that post in relation to the initial post, and then read the one by myself which falls right before your own. My comment was entirely apt and relevant to the nature of the article, as it was initially presented.
EXTspotter From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 856 posts, RR: 1 Reply 67, posted (2 years 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10183 times:
Calm down, Dan. It was just a misunderstanding and if he is too good for FR, the jokes on him. Someone sold their soul for some warm nuts and a half can of coke.
At least fly FR and draw on Michael O'leary's face in the letter from the CEO. If he ever looks like a pirate, keep it as it is one of mine.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 7930 posts, RR: 66 Reply 68, posted (2 years 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10157 times:
Quoting EXTspotter (Reply 67): Calm down, Dan. It was just a misunderstanding and if he is too good for FR, the jokes on him. Someone sold their soul for some warm nuts and a half can of coke.
Oh don't worry - I have a good supply of coffee - I am calm
Abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 25 Reply 69, posted (2 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9853 times:
Quoting EXTspotter (Reply 67): Calm down, Dan. It was just a misunderstanding and if he is too good for FR, the jokes on him. Someone sold their soul for some warm nuts and a half can of coke.
= Yes, it is a misunderstanding. Sorry Dan.
And, I did sell my soul ... but not for some "warm nuts and a half can of coke" ... I mean who travels Y these days anyways ?
And, I did sell my soul ... but not for some "warm nuts and a half can of coke" ... I mean who travels Y these days anyways ?
(I am joking).
Not a problem - my apologies too if appeared that I was snappy
If the first image really was a taste of FR's calender then it really would be trashy, however, I'm certainly not complaining at the actual samples shown so far. *Books flight on Ryanair to buy calender*
757lgw From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 152 posts, RR: 4 Reply 71, posted (2 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8998 times:
from someone who works at ryanair i can tell you that a couple of months ago they asked for both male and females to apply to do a photo shoot for this charity calender unfortunatley not enough males applied so a male calander was never made the girls that took part all had a holiday on ryanair. it is all about having a good laugh and for thoose of you that have brought one im sure you like the back page the best which has an old granny in a swimsuit with a speech bubble saying theyll have me selling scratchcards next along with the caption of meet whatever her name is from aer lingus at dublin base.
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