BuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2511 posts, RR: 3 Posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 26104 times:
Starting next Friday, Ryanair will sell calendars on board, showing its own FA's in "exciting ways". It will show both male and female FAs and spokesman David Gering says that although they'll show "the occasional breast part" it will be decent enough.
The revenue will go to Orbis, a charity organisation that helps avoiding blindness among children in developing countries.
Disclaimer: I included the picture that the article showed - I am not sure if this picture really came from the calendar! Well at least MOL is already excited...
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 26089 times:
Just goes to show - just when you thought FR couldn't get any more chav-like, they'll pull another stunt like this. How can anyone take them seriously ?
Shamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 5388 posts, RR: 17 Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 26090 times:
That poor 737!
Well at least the calender is for charity and not profit for FR. It's a good idea, I'm sure lots of chavs flying to Spain for some cheap winter sun will buy them.
Bok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2072 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 25977 times:
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11216 posts, RR: 55 Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 25605 times:
I wonder how many James will pick up for Holiday giving.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 8195 posts, RR: 66 Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 25536 times:
Jeez, can Ryanair sink any lower? The images are utter trash - they could at least have gotten a creative photographer in to shoot something of worth for a calender... that is if this isn't just a hoax - none of the pictures shown feature FR aircraft... although the editorial department could have just been short so dived into image banks for them.
Bramble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 25355 times:
Just looked at that pic again. i assume you noticed that it is a pic of women from the 70s or 80s? Look at the hairstyles. And they are far too old to be FR cabin crew,average age there would be 22-25.
Jpdflymhtmlb From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 25220 times:
That pic seems oddly familiar...wasn't there a group of older flight attendants from the US that made a calendar a while back?
Luv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1578 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 25079 times:
Is that a 737 under your pants or are you just....
When you have to breaststroke to your connecting flight...it's a crash!
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 6953 posts, RR: 59 Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 24804 times:
Is Ryanair trying intentionally to become the "official airline of flying trash," or is it just the natural evolution of their "brand?"
Fridgmus From Iraq, joined Oct 2006, 714 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 23454 times:
Quoting Jpdflymhtmlb (Reply 10): That pic seems oddly familiar...wasn't there a group of older flight attendants from the US that made a calendar a while back?
Quoting Mach3 (Reply 17): The calander showing the FA's was put together by Ex United Airlines FA's I was sold online last year, I forget the URL for the sale of the calander.
I had that particular calendar. I have just completed a move and it's packed in a box somewhere! They are the self-proclaimed "Stews" from UA and most are still F/A's, although I don't know if they are still with UA.
They are protesting UA cutting their retirement benefits. The calendars are suggestive but no nudity.
The Lockheed Super Constellation, the REAL Queen of the Skies!
N1786b From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 465 posts, RR: 16 Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 22387 times:
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 21): Now, back on topic, any more images available?
Quoting QantasHeavy (Reply 13): Ughhh -- those FAs look pretty old and butch... I think they have some cuter ones at Ryan Air, right?
Click the link - you don't need to speak Dutch to get the "message." n1786b
Luv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1578 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 22328 times:
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 21): Seriously, can I get a model that scale or are they made specially?
Your best bet would be to start singing that Viva Viagra song...while looking at the calendar of course!
When you have to breaststroke to your connecting flight...it's a crash!
QantasHeavy From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 379 posts, RR: 2 Reply 25, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 22279 times:
Haha... yesy I see what you mean. Now the girl in the aisle shold have been the poster girl... not the girls who look like the starting lineup for the Pittsburg Steelers or rugby league team in the first photo in the thread. I think the one in the middle looks like "she" has a bigger ###### than the guy with the 737.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 9542 posts, RR: 7 Reply 27, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 21720 times:
I am quite sure that Ryanair has a significant percentage of beautiful women (and men) among their staff. Perhaps better would be a calender of some of them in tasteful bathing suits or other attractive outfits with the background of landmarks of cities or countries they serve and where their staff is from. You could have Erin from Ireland posing in a white tank bathing suit along the Liffy in the city center of Dublin, Gretchen of Hann in a bright red 2 piece in front of an old castle in Germany and Tatiana with a tight low cut pheasant blouse in front of an old palace in Riga.
Of course, some of us here would prefer scenes of their aircraft, in flight, but for us, they would only raise a few Euros for charity. If the idea is charity, that is fine, perhaps one connected with the UN that helps children.
By the way that picture of MOL with the a/c model is very disturbing. But it probably does describe his personality very well.
Ryanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 28, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 21525 times:
I don't see anything wrong with this idea, it just gives FR bashers another chance to slate Ryanair.
Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 2): I'm sure lots of chavs flying to Spain for some cheap winter sun will buy them.
I think you will find most chavs in the UK fly on the charter airlines rather than LCCs. Look at T1/T2 in the Summer at Manchester and you will know what I mean.
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 32, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20885 times:
From a man who once commented on putting pornography on aircraft what can one expect? I think this sends out a terrible image of cabin crew too. I thought they wanted to be thought as more than glamour girls? How demeaning and also embarassing for many passengers, particularly religious and older passengers.
Strudders From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 109 posts, RR: 0 Reply 34, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 20741 times:
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1): Just goes to show - just when you thought FR couldn't get any more chav-like, they'll pull another stunt like this. How can anyone take them seriously ?
I am not the greatest fan of FR or MOL, however why is this "Chav-like". I am sorry but I fail to see why this should be an issue.
Before passing judgement please consider the following:
Sevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0 Reply 35, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 20506 times:
It's a shame to see FR regarded as a charver airline. It was only a few weeks ago that an announcement was made that FR carry more 'posh' people than BA.
Elvis777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 359 posts, RR: 4 Reply 36, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 19592 times:
They were F/A in their 50's who were raising awareness/ protesting pension issues (loss of)....Mostly ex UA ladies but now it has grown to include other airlines
Peace
Elvis777
Leper,Unevolved, Misplaced and Unrepentant SportsFanatic and a ZOMBIE as well
Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 6316 posts, RR: 58 Reply 38, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 18885 times:
Quoting Cumulus (Reply 24): Amazing example of business sucess, but he is a total pr*ck.
I think he's probably a business success partly *because* he's a total prick (apparently).
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 32): I think this sends out a terrible image of cabin crew too. I thought they wanted to be thought as more than glamour girls?
Isn't it up to the cabin crew to decide what image they want to project? If they want to do it, that's up to them, not us.
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 32): How demeaning and also embarassing for many passengers, particularly religious and older passengers.
I'm a little unclear on how this is embarrassing or demeaning to the passengers. If you find it embarrassing, don't buy one. As for demeaning...don't be an FR flight attendant, I guess.
Lexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2333 posts, RR: 8 Reply 39, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 18855 times:
Quoting SJC4Me (Reply 18): They might make more money for "charity" if they wore those outfits in the cabins...
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 43, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 13249 times:
This has set back then reputation/image many FAs have been fighting for years. It reflects on them and their profession. Its cheap, tawdy and demeaning to all cabin crew, not just FR
Rbgso From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 396 posts, RR: 0 Reply 44, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 13142 times:
Strudders From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 109 posts, RR: 0 Reply 45, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 13087 times:
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 43): This has set back then reputation/image many FAs have been fighting for years. It reflects on them and their profession. Its cheap, tawdy and demeaning to all cabin crew, not just FR
So the staff that took part in this Charity calendar were coerced? told to do so? had it in their contract?
or did somebody think that:
"This is would be a good idea to make some money with the companies backing, that is fun, not too OTT an well worth applauding"
Oh sorry forgot, these FA's obviously speak for every FA flying the world today.
Please.
I am sure the list of volunteers for this calendar far exceeded the 12 that got put in.
You may find it cheap and Tawdy, but tell that to the hundreds of children and old folk who can see as a result.
Please see my other post and then tell me if those group of staff also belittle there respective groups.
Stickers From South Africa, joined Sep 2007, 100 posts, RR: 0 Reply 46, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 13034 times:
Lets just get some perspective here...
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1): Just goes to show - just when you thought FR couldn't get any more chav-like, they'll pull another stunt like this. How can anyone take them seriously ?
LCC's have revolutionized air travel. Their aim is to make air travel affordable, fun, and something everyone can enjoy. They have (in all the LCC's i have flown) been deliberate in moving away from the image that flying is only for the rich and famous. If one is a person who still regards flying as being for only those with the big bucks, and wants to fly in a very serious, stiff-upper lip, aristocratic atmoshphere, then by all means, DON"T BY A LCC TICKET!! This is just something that FR thinks is fun and will help charity. FR along with many others have opened up the skies, to all regular people, most of whom are not shocked and offeded by such pictures.
I guess, if you are like me, i simply would choose not to buy the calender. But i wouldn't be offended that FR was offering it. I mean its not like they are giving them away free with your ticket, you have a choice. I mean think abou it, the local newsagent and corner store sell FHM magazines as well as informative publications and newspapers. Does this offend me, ...no. I simply choose what i buy. Guys, lighten up a little, and in terms of them being a serious airline and competitor, i think that Tdscanuck said it best...
Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 4): You just need to take their financials and stock price seriously.
Quoting Commavia (Reply 15): Is Ryanair trying intentionally to become the "official airline of flying trash," or is it just the natural evolution of their "brand?"
Oh Pleeez.... See my previous paragraph
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 32): How demeaning and also embarassing for many passengers, particularly religious and older passengers.
Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 38): I'm a little unclear on how this is embarrassing or demeaning to the passengers. If you find it embarrassing, don't buy one. As for demeaning...don't be an FR flight attendant, I guess
Agreed, i am religious, and every time i read an inflight magazine, or any magazine for that matter there are suggestive pictures or adverts. (And no, i am not talking about those sort of magazines . ) For that matter on the way to the airport, there's some gorgeous woman on a 20 meter billboard wearing a wonderbra, and a little furthur on is some lovely lady wearing next to nothing eating some ice cream. Its all about freedom of expression and the same freedom that they are exercising allows me to practice my religion freely. I don't have to like it, but then i don't have to buy the product either.
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 47, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 13039 times:
If they wanted to model half naked then why dont they give up the 'day' job and go into |Penthouse modelling! I do think lots of FAs will be embarassed about this and it seems to glorify and reinstall the image that they all have to be the perfect size and shape.
Strudders From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 109 posts, RR: 0 Reply 48, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12958 times:
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 48): If they wanted to model half naked then why dont they give up the 'day' job and go into |Penthouse modelling! I do think lots of FAs will be embarassed about this and it seems to glorify and reinstall the image that they all have to be the perfect size and shape.
I take your point, but you are missing the whole issue here.
If this was the norm for these staff, if their uniform was overtly sexual and demeaning, they were all the same body shape with assets to match then yes, it would be a disgrace and deeming for all, not only for the staff but also for woman and men in general (you forget Men have the same insecurities as well)
Now the fact that this is a one off, for charity, voluntary and no more demeaning that a perfume ad or a wonder bra (cheers Stickers) ad, then No. I am sorry I dont think it falls into that category. However I am not a Woman or an FA so I do come from a slightly left of Field view.
However If hundreds of FA's state on the board that its demeaning and embarrassing then I will get back in my box and reevaluate my social views on life!
Mirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 6833 posts, RR: 70 Reply 49, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12859 times:
MIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 53, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12733 times:
rofl.. @ George Bush^^
Maybe those who are criticizing it are gay? It seems that's true. If they were selling a mechanic macho man of the month cal. you'll read a lot less complaining.
SCUMBAG From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 74 posts, RR: 0 Reply 56, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12370 times:
The one in the middle looks like a Flaming DRAG Queen!
Mirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 6833 posts, RR: 70 Reply 58, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12193 times:
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Quoting QantasHeavy (Reply 13): Ughhh -- those FAs look pretty old and butch
I don't know. While the photos from the calendar feature some nice looking gals, even the first photo shows some pretty toned women, even if butch and old. In better shape than me!
Sketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1532 posts, RR: 4 Reply 59, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12152 times:
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 21): Now, back on topic, any more images available? And am I the only one who finds it ironic that they're using visual sex appeal to benefit the blind?
Ha Ha
O'Leary is so brash and arrogant it is unbelievable. Could you really see any other airline CEO doing this?.... well apart from SRB
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 8195 posts, RR: 66 Reply 60, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11997 times:
Quoting Stickers (Reply 46): Oh Pleeez.... See my previous paragraph
Now that was in relation to the admittedly poor pictures which initially seemed to constitute the Calender. I'm FAR more satisfied with the calender as it is now
Abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 39 Reply 61, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 11628 times:
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1): Just goes to show - just when you thought FR couldn't get any more chav-like, they'll pull another stunt like this. How can anyone take them seriously ?
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 7): Jeez, can Ryanair sink any lower? The images are utter trash - they could at least have gotten a creative photographer in to shoot something of worth for a calender... that is if this isn't just a hoax - none of the pictures shown feature FR aircraft... although the editorial department could have just been short so dived into image banks for them.
Dan
= Oh come on people. Loosen up. As much as I am a total snobbish biatch, who would not fly FR, I can appreciate how savvy FR is to understand its market and adapt its products accordingly. Good job to FR to do something random. I think its hilarious. Can someone buy one for me PLEASE? Else, gotta search ebay!
I'm no fan of FR but fair play to them, it's a good idea and will make lots of money for charity. I'm sure many rspectable businessmen will buy these too, not just these "chavs" that make up all of Ryaniars clientele as some of you suggest. I think i need to travel on one of their flights, since buying one from e-Bay won't have the charitable effect.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 10525 posts, RR: 63 Reply 63, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11302 times:
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 32): think this sends out a terrible image of cabin crew too. I thought they wanted to be thought as more than glamour girls?
Knowing a lot of FR cabin staff and having been at various FR crew parties, I doubt that the majority of the FA's would care about this issue. Most of them are a pretty relaxed, fun loving bunch.
BTW, the pictures posted on the Dutch website are defintely NOT FR crew.
BA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2827 posts, RR: 23 Reply 64, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11168 times:
Quoting BA787 (Reply 62): I'm no fan of FR but fair play to them, it's a good idea and will make lots of money for charity. I'm sure many rspectable businessmen will buy these too, not just these "chavs" that make up all of Ryaniars clientele as some of you suggest. I think i need to travel on one of their flights, since buying one from e-Bay won't have the charitable effect.
You can buy them off Ryanair's website - no need to fly them.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 8195 posts, RR: 66 Reply 66, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11020 times:
Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 61): Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 7):
Jeez, can Ryanair sink any lower? The images are utter trash - they could at least have gotten a creative photographer in to shoot something of worth for a calender... that is if this isn't just a hoax - none of the pictures shown feature FR aircraft... although the editorial department could have just been short so dived into image banks for them.
Dan
= Oh come on people. Loosen up. As much as I am a total snobbish biatch, who would not fly FR, I can appreciate how savvy FR is to understand its market and adapt its products accordingly. Good job to FR to do something random. I think its hilarious.
Ahem, you may wish to re-read the context of that post in relation to the initial post, and then read the one by myself which falls right before your own. My comment was entirely apt and relevant to the nature of the article, as it was initially presented.
EXTspotter From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 878 posts, RR: 1 Reply 67, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10979 times:
Calm down, Dan. It was just a misunderstanding and if he is too good for FR, the jokes on him. Someone sold their soul for some warm nuts and a half can of coke.
At least fly FR and draw on Michael O'leary's face in the letter from the CEO. If he ever looks like a pirate, keep it as it is one of mine.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 8195 posts, RR: 66 Reply 68, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10953 times:
Quoting EXTspotter (Reply 67): Calm down, Dan. It was just a misunderstanding and if he is too good for FR, the jokes on him. Someone sold their soul for some warm nuts and a half can of coke.
Oh don't worry - I have a good supply of coffee - I am calm
Abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 39 Reply 69, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10649 times:
Quoting EXTspotter (Reply 67): Calm down, Dan. It was just a misunderstanding and if he is too good for FR, the jokes on him. Someone sold their soul for some warm nuts and a half can of coke.
= Yes, it is a misunderstanding. Sorry Dan.
And, I did sell my soul ... but not for some "warm nuts and a half can of coke" ... I mean who travels Y these days anyways ?
And, I did sell my soul ... but not for some "warm nuts and a half can of coke" ... I mean who travels Y these days anyways ?
(I am joking).
Not a problem - my apologies too if appeared that I was snappy
If the first image really was a taste of FR's calender then it really would be trashy, however, I'm certainly not complaining at the actual samples shown so far. *Books flight on Ryanair to buy calender*
757lgw From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 152 posts, RR: 3 Reply 71, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9794 times:
from someone who works at ryanair i can tell you that a couple of months ago they asked for both male and females to apply to do a photo shoot for this charity calender unfortunatley not enough males applied so a male calander was never made the girls that took part all had a holiday on ryanair. it is all about having a good laugh and for thoose of you that have brought one im sure you like the back page the best which has an old granny in a swimsuit with a speech bubble saying theyll have me selling scratchcards next along with the caption of meet whatever her name is from aer lingus at dublin base.
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