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Royal Jordanian Flights To LAX  
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3758 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4695 times:

I just found out that Royal Jordanian had flights between LAX and AMM in the 80's using L1011. How long did this service last, and was L1011s the only jet used on this route? Also was this non stop service?

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User currently offlineFly2CHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Wow! What a long flight in an aircraft that size. Can't wait for the responses on this one! Did RJ fly anywhere else?

User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

As a side note we still get an occasional private A340 here for a VIP.....


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User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 2):
A340 here for a VIP.....

how about the Qatari A330 or the Saudi MD-11, I heard they fly out here just to do a little shopping in Beverly Hills.



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User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

Quoting Fly2CHC (Reply 1):
Did RJ fly anywhere else?

I remember seeing them in MIA in 1988 I think.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4348 times:

Quoting Fly2CHC (Reply 1):
What a long flight in an aircraft that size.

Not particularly, but that flight could not have gone non-stop.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 3):

how about the Qatari A330 or the Saudi MD-11, I heard they fly out here just to do a little shopping in Beverly Hills.

Pretty much. Likely South Coast Plaza too. The 747SPs show up as well.



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User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 944 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

The RJ flights stopped in AMS. I dont have my schedules handy but I believe they were LAX-JFK-AMS-AMM and/or LAX-AMS-AMM. During this period there were flights to MIA, LAX, JFK, IAH, ORD and maybe others such as YYZ, YMX. I have the timetable with days of week and schedules but if I remember it was only 2x or 3x weekly.

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
I just found out that Royal Jordanian had flights between LAX and AMM in the 80's using L1011

The flights to LAX started in 1984 and were operated via FRA or LHR. Royal Jordanian was named "ALIA" at that time. Thier name was changed in 1986.
They also flew to IAH and YYZ in the late 80s.


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4261 times:

I find it interesting with the large Middle-Eastern population in Los Angeles, and there are no direct flights to LAX from the Middle East. What gives???

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 8):
I find it interesting with the large Middle-Eastern population in Los Angeles, and there are no direct flights to LAX from the Middle East. What gives???

LAX-AMM nonstop is 12260km/7617mi . I doubt RJ's A342 could fly the distance nonstop both ways without restrictions. Only an A345 or B772LR could do it without any problem.


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4175 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 9):
LAX-AMM nonstop is 12260km/7617mi . I doubt RJ's A342 could fly the distance nonstop both ways without restrictions. Only an A345 or B772LR could do it without any problem

I know this thread is about Royal Jordanian, but I was asking about the other carriers, Qatar, Etihad, Emirates.


User currently offlineRJAF From Jordan, joined Jan 2007, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4151 times:

I flew RJ's L-1011-500s many times in the late 80s. The route was LAX-ORD-VIE-AMM and vice versa.


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26169 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 7):
The flights to LAX started in 1984 and were operated via FRA or LHR.

Never LHR nor FRA.

No see below.

Quoting RJAF (Reply 11):
I flew RJ's L-1011-500s many times in the late 80s. The route was LAX-ORD-VIE-AMM and vice versa.

 checkmark  Indeed.

However for periods there were slight changes including use of 742 and routing via AMS especially in the first few years.


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Quoting Juventus (Reply 8):
I find it interesting with the large Middle-Eastern population in Los Angeles, and there are no direct flights to LAX from the Middle East. What gives???

Well we've had El Al successfully serve Los Angeles since the very early 1980s.


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But I assume you are referring to Arab carriers, which indeed have been pretty poor showing at LAX. Outside of Royal Jordanian and then Egyptair which managed to serve LA for most of the 80s and 90s (with quite poor loads), there really has not been a scheduled Arab carrier presence at the airport - tough we do see plenty of VIP aircraft.
Might be interesting to note that Royal Air Maroc did open a LA sales office in in Beverly Hills circa 2000 in anticipation of launching service, however 9/11 killed those dreams.


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At the end of the day, the travel needs for Middle Eastern destined folks are pretty well covered by the European carriers such as KLM, Lufthansa, Air France, Swiss whom offer good connectivity and frequencies via their hubs.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3867 times:

If I am not mistaken, RJ's Los Angeles service, along with Toronto and Miami, ended during the Gulf War.


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User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3757 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 12):
At the end of the day, the travel needs for Middle Eastern destined folks are pretty well covered by the European carriers such as KLM, Lufthansa, Air France, Swiss whom offer good connectivity and frequencies via their hubs.

Yep, and the Arab population in LA isnt as great as the upper Midwest or New York. Although there is a significant Egyptian/Palestinian contigency in the Pasadena area, and a significant population of Iranian's in the Socal area, most of which who have severed ties with Iran right N1120A? I havent heard of too many Iranian Jews going back to Iran?



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User currently offlinePeachAir From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 367 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3186 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
I just found out that Royal Jordanian had flights between LAX and AMM in the 80's using L1011. How long did this service last, and was L1011s the only jet used on this route? Also was this non stop service?

I remember loading bags into the LD-3's for Royal Jordanian at LAX. It was an L-1011-500 and it stopped in JFK. I remember they always had a security agent from RJ observing us load the bags for this flight. It left from TBIT and we had to go over there to work the bagroom. It was always a good day when you got assigned RJ. You loaded 3 cans max. Most pax boarded in JFK. The aircraft was ornate inside with a prayer shrine always pointed toward Mecca.


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