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Any Chance Of Regional Consolidation?

ATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

I would have thought after all the talk of industry consolidation that a few regionals would have followed suite -- is there any hope of that happening?

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SLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3861 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

Quoting ATWZW170 (Thread starter):
I would have thought after all the talk of industry consolidation that a few regionals would have followed suite -- is there any hope of that happening?

OO has already taken over ASA from DL (August 2005), and there are Strong indications that OH will also be sold off sooner than later.

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DeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
there are Strong indications that OH will also be sold off sooner than later.

To who? OO would be a good buyer. Let's just pray it's not Mesa who buys OH.

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ATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

Even though Skywest and ASA are owned by the same company -- they aren't the same airline -- they operate totally seperate -- so to me that isn't really a merger.

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Tinpusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

In the hands of the right company, regional consolidation could be a good thing. That way there are not so many compnay out there willing to undercut each other just for business and we could possibly see some respectable wages for employees. Of course the opposite could also happen if airlines like Mesa went around buying up other regionals.

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ATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1708 times:

I couldn't imagine anyone allowing Mesa to purchase their airline....but if the price is right shareholders will do just about anything. I have to agree with you regarding less airlines, better wages....I hope we can see that sometime soon. I think it's about time everyone realize running an airline is expensive -- in order to have a well run airline you must pay people what they are worth in order to retain talent and the best employees.

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TinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 5):
I think it's about time everyone realize running an airline is expensive -- in order to have a well run airline you must pay people what they are worth in order to retain talent and the best employees

This concept is realized at the executive level...Hence. all the nonsense about paying out millions in bonuses to retain the "talent" at that level.

"Flying isn't inherently dangerous...but very unforgiving of carelessness, incapacity or neglect."

ATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1585 times:

Executive talent -- yeah, I don't see any right now. Someone needs to be the white knight bring work groups together, improve moral, and bring this industry back to something we can all be proud of.

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OBSMGR From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 47 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 7):
Executive talent -- yeah, I don't see any right now.

In the Regional industry, I think Republic's Bedford is as good as it gets. People there seem at least as happy as other airlines and financially they've done VERY well. Stock performance has been quite good.

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ATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

This is true, Brian Bedford was able to bring an airline from the shadows and totally into the spotlight. I think so many other airlines have their hands tied -- I was hoping Jim Rankin, CEO of AWAC, would make some major changes -- nothing yet.

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Apodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3641 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 9):
I was hoping Jim Rankin, CEO of AWAC, would make some major changes

You and me both. My feeling is that if he had been CEO during the United years, I believe ZW would have kept the UA flying and would actually be in a similar position to republic today. Unfortunately they brought him in during the Midwest RFP, which was totally botched.

ATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

Its been a year since he took over -- where are the big changes? Not a single new flying partner - massive turnover - moral is low -- how much worse can it get. With all our mx delays we are becoming as bad as Mesa. It was better when we had a revenue sharing contract -- now with this fee for departure the focus is how long can get keep the planes in the air -- doesn't give a lot of time to do anything but the basics for mx -- cabins need to be cleaned, exterior needs to be scrubbed -- oh well.....what to do.

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