QantasHeavy From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 379 posts, RR: 1 Posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7189 times:
Went and looked at the new Qantas seats in the heritage room upstairs down by gate 11 in Terminal 1 in Sydney.
The new economy seats looked nicer, seemed wider yet thinner (more leg room) but may have been an illusions.
The fully-flat SkyBed looked very narrow (but truly flat bed, so a nice improvement)
The new 1st suites were very nice. Not quite SQ but still nice and big. Good looking 17" LCD flat panel that you can swivel towards you.
They did not have the premium economy seats -- there was a display area marked for them but it was empty! Maybe afraid of competitors looking at them?
The domestic business class seats were literally the same exact seat with a new coloured fabric and in-flight power ports on them... why even bother touting them as new?
And spekaing of branding... I think the Qantas livery still worn by most of the aircraft in the inventory looks better than the new one. Such a small difference one would wonder why bother repainting the fleet to look 99% like it already does! Reminds me when DL used to repaint and rebrand every year... where is the payback?
QantasAirways From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1280 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6935 times:
The premium economy seats were on display when I went to have a look in September, so I'm not sure why they've removed them now.. It's a great little museum there! I've only been once but it was very impressive, and not many people there at all.
I'm actually a fan of the new livery after I saw OGD in person, I think it looks sleeker and more competitive
QF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 767 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days ago) and read 6782 times:
Thanks for the update QantasHeavy. I'm next due in SYD in DEC and look forward to visiting the Heritage Museum for the first time. That's a shame about the Y+ seats not being there - that is the new product I have a great lot of interest in - you are probably right about QF removing them due to competitors - that way they can limit them to only seeing photos online!
I have to disagree about the new livery - I absolutely love it. It's a big improvement and is very modern. The more I see it the more I hate that gold stripe on the old tail, so the removal of it in the new livery is wonderful.
Here's a showcase of the new livery for those that haven't seen it on certain aircraft:
QantasHeavy From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 379 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6662 times:
Yeah, respect fellas. To each his own. I like "Spirit of Australia" under the Qantas. I don't see that much difference to warrant repainting the fleet, but that's just me. I do think the poster looks better than the real thing too. It will grow on me. Just glad they did not add a big cheat line over the windows... I am not a retro fan.
I also think Qantas should paint the RR-powered 767 and 747 engine nacelles/housings white though... looks much better white with the QF logo on it. The 747-400ERs and 767-ERs (both have GE engines) with the white covers look really good.
Heritage museum is definitely worth your time! Enjoy your visit there. Plenty of neat things to see and it is very convenient (right in the terminal). Great views of the main runway with a panoramic viewing area, so set aside some extra time to watch the action if you can. I wish more airline would have their musuems at their hub in the terminal. AA has a good one but you have to go over to their HQ, which is outside the DFW grounds. That allows people not flying to stop in and visit (schools, etc.) but is hard for people in transit to view.
Nice thing with QF showcase is that it is past, present and future... + a great view of ops at SYD. Unfortunately the hours ar enot always good. Think it is open 9-5 Mon-Fri. Have seen many a dissapointed enthusiast go up to the door on a Saturday morning : (
QantasHeavy From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 379 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6520 times:
NO the engine covers/cowlings/nacelles on all of the RR-powered 767s in the QF fleet are grey and all but one or two of the RR-powered 747s have grey covers (silver on the 747-300). Only the GE engines are painted white on 99% of 767s and 747s with QF.
777klm From China, joined Apr 2005, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6282 times:
Quoting QF175 (Reply 2): I'd like to see more discussion about the new livery - what do people outside Australia think of it?
I like the "updated" livery, let's not call it an entirely new livery! But I love it; it looks very clean, I love to see the proud roo taking more space!
I love the new interior colors as well! Good to see the corporate color (red) being presented so proudly inside the cabin, they did a realy good job! QF is a great airline!
AJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2403 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6203 times:
Quoting QantasHeavy (Reply 4): I also think Qantas should paint the RR-powered 767 and 747 engine nacelles/housings white though... looks much better white with the QF logo on it. The 747-400ERs and 767-ERs (both have GE engines) with the white covers look really good.
When the 747-438 was delivered the arrived with white engine cowls. It soon became apparent that the RR engine was prone to spiting oil all over itself leaving large orange streaks that quickly became dirty and turned grey. Consequently they were progressively painted grey to help mask the streaks.
V Jet From Australia, joined May 1999, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6058 times:
I really like the new livery. I was at Brighton Le Sands a week or so ago and saw OGD approaching from the south. It's quite evident even from that distance that the livery is different. I was surprised at how noticeable the difference is.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21890 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5885 times:
I hope the new skybeds are on the LAX-SYD flights from early on. I would imagine they go on SYD-LHR first, but I'm going to be heading back to SYD next year, and would use miles for J tickets with the new beds. Last time I used miles for F seats, but if I can lie level flat in J, that's "good enough" for me.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Airbus A3XX From Australia, joined May 1999, 507 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 16 hours ago) and read 5713 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13): I hope the new skybeds are on the LAX-SYD flights from early on. I would imagine they go on SYD-LHR first, but I'm going to be heading back to SYD next year, and would use miles for J tickets with the new beds. Last time I used miles for F seats, but if I can lie level flat in J, that's "good enough" for me.
Unfortunately the new Skybeds will not be on the 747-400s. They will only go on the A380s. The 747-400s will only be updated with new Premium Economy alongside with new carpet/seat covers for First/Economy.
AirNewZealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2547 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5552 times:
Configuation for Premium Y is...
40Y+/180Y (First and Business unchanged)
Roll out will be 3 week Feb 08...with aircaft operating LHR routes...but sold as Y. Emeralds, Platinums and Chairmans lounge will sit in these seats...they will get the FULL Pemium service...this is a training experiment till March/April so cew can get accoustomed to service.
Silver Service in Pemium Y with passenges using Business class toilets and inflight bars.
Also...Matesses are coming onboad or first class.
747-400 will NOT get new Skybed M-II...and first class is still getting looked at.
ClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4770 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5284 times:
Quoting AirNewZealand (Reply 15): Roll out will be 3 week Feb 08...with aircaft operating LHR routes...but sold as Y. Emeralds, Platinums and Chairmans lounge will sit in these seats...they will get the FULL Pemium service...this is a training experiment till March/April so cew can get accoustomed to service.
That's excellent to know.
I have been told by QF that you can fly premium economy as a normal person from 1 April 2008. It's expected to go on sale later in the year or early next year, with the pricing due out soon.
Quoting AirNewZealand (Reply 15): 747-400 will NOT get new Skybed M-II...and first class is still getting looked at.
You'd think at least the ERs would get the new First...
I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!