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New Southwest Routes Likely Nov. 8. Predictions?  
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7561 times:
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November 8th will open up the next schedule, so I'm thinking (as well as others) that their will be the usual new route announcements.

My guesses:

Strong possibility:

DEN

DEN-LAX
DEN-SAN
DEN-AUS (second flight)

Possible:

DEN-SAT
DEN-STL
DEN-PHL
DEN-PDX
DEN-MSY
DEN-FLL
DEN-SFO

SFO

Likely:

SFO-PHX
SFO-SEA
SFO-HOU

Possible:

SFO-BUR
SFO-SNA (slot permitting)
SFO-ONT
SFO-DEN
SFO-PDX
SFO-SLC

MSY

Possible:

Additional flight(s) to PHX, MDW, BWI.

Also Possible:

MSY-AUS
MSY-SAT
MSY-PHL
MSY-DEN
MSY-MCI

MDW

Possible:

MDW-BOI
MDW-OKC
MDW-TUL
MDW-PBI
MDW-JAX
MDW-ELP


Also Possibilities:
PHX-BOI
FLL-ALB
FLL-MHT
FLL-PIT
FLL-ORF
MCO-OMA
BWI-OMA
HOU-PIT

Should be a good start. Obviously, a lot of those won't happen in the next announcement, but I still bet some of those are announced. These are just guesses from my knowledge of WN and where they fly, the current trends of flights and connecting the dots, and what I see working.

I'm sure I will get a ton of crap for sounding like a WN route freak, and that xxx-xxx is unreasonable, or why xxx-xxx cities aren't in my list.

And no, I have no information internally on WN as to what will be announced.

Have fun guessing.  Wink


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23029 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7541 times:

What about some PIT expansion?

PIT-BNA
PIT-FLL (on your list)
PIT-HOU (also on your list)


Another US drawdown seems to provide another opportunity...

[Edited 2007-11-05 12:50:45]


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User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3106 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7538 times:

Here some info that should lead you to what they're doing....................


Courtesy: Rocky Mountain News

Expanding Southwest Airlines Making Presence Felt In Denver

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm.../0,2777,DRMN_23912_5738266,00.html


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7469 times:
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Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 2):
Here some info that should lead you to what they're doing....................


Courtesy: Rocky Mountain News

Expanding Southwest Airlines Making Presence Felt In Denver

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm....html

Very interesting.

That article (which I had not read before I posted this thread) basically confirmed my bets on heavy DEN expansion, which is why I listed DEN first with several destinations possible/likely.

The only thing holding them back that I see is lack of gates. Any DEN members have any idea if they are able to get more gates? IIRC they only have 5 now with 56 daily flights.

[Edited 2007-11-05 12:54:40]


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7470 times:

SFO-OAK

It'll happen.



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7424 times:
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Quoting Whappeh (Reply 4):
SFO-OAK

It'll happen.

I'll assume you're joking.  Wink



Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
User currently offlineThirteenRight From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7297 times:

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 4):
SFO-OAK

It'll happen.

Oh see, I heard SFO-OAK, OAK-SJC, and SJC-SFO.


User currently offlinePITops From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7282 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 1):
What about some PIT expansion?

PIT-BNA
PIT-FLL (on your list)
PIT-HOU (also on your list)


Another US drawdown seems to provide another opportunity...


The new schedule books are already out. No new service to PIT. They said we would have 1 or 2 more flights at the beginning of the year. No talk on what cities. I would think it would be additional frequencies to cities already served, not new destinations. Maybe a new BWI or MDW frequency.

[Edited 2007-11-05 14:01:20]

[Edited 2007-11-05 14:01:49]


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User currently offlineAmtrakGuy From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7200 times:

Quoting PITops (Reply 7):
The new schedule books are already out. No new service to PIT. They said we would have 1 or 2 more flights at the beginning of the year. No talk on what cities. I would think it would be additional frequencies to cities already served, not new destinations. Maybe a new BWI or MDW frequency.

Hopefully they'll add a BWI frequency. Their timing never works right for me to fly to/from PIT. Does anyone how how the LF (and Yields) between BWI and PIT? Right now they flies 3x a day (2x on Sundays).

And how's BWI to/from Denver doing so far? With Frointier flying to DCA and IAD, I could imagine the flight should be okay.


User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7188 times:

My bets are on DEN-OMA

User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7138 times:

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 4):
SFO-OAK

This is your captain speaking. Sit back. Don't get to comfortable, and enjoy our 3 minute flight to OAK.



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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7128 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Thread starter):
MDW-OKC

I think that has a good chance.

Quoting Iowaman (Thread starter):
MDW-TUL

Don't count on it.



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User currently offlinePITops From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7066 times:

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 10):
This is your captain speaking. Sit back. Don't get to comfortable, and enjoy our 3 minute flight to OAK.

HAHAHAHA thats funny!



Ground Ops, Southwest Airlines, CMH
User currently offlineKstateinALB From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7047 times:

I'm actually guessing either ALB-FLL or ALB-PHX...easily a profitable fight.


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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7037 times:

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 10):
enjoy our 3 minute flight to OAK.

..."and folks, if you add in our taxi-out and taxi-in times, it rises to three minutes and fifteen seconds"  wink 

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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7030 times:

Quoting KstateinALB (Reply 13):
ALB-PHX

On www.faremeasure.com it says 141 passengers travel ALB-PHX everyday.

ALB-FLL has 199 daily.

[Edited 2007-11-05 15:20:03]


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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6961 times:

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 9):
My bets are on DEN-OMA

www.faremeasure.com says 432 people travel DEN-OMA daily. I'm not sure if that includes connections also. Combining UA and F9's seat totals, there is already 1210 seats each way daily. I'm not sure if that could be supported. Do you know if F9 and UA usually have full planes?



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User currently onlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4077 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6946 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Thread starter):
SFO-SLC

DL & B6 get some competition on this route. Is it possible in the 5-10 year window that SLC will feature a similar 3 way battle between DL, B6 & WN as DEN currently has with UA, F9 & WN? Especially as a new airport master-plan starts to take shape and more mainline gates become available?



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32796 posts, RR: 71
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6945 times:

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 15):

ALB-FLL has 199 daily.

And that's only to FLL, and only during the slow travel period. During peak travel, South Florida-Albany has over 450 passengers per day. I believe that Albany is the biggest domestic O&D market from South Florida not served non-stop.

Southwest has been slowly adding some logical gaps to the FLL route network in the past year with Buffalo, Providence, and Raleigh. I would hope to see Albany, Albuquerque, Austin, Manchester, Norfolk, and San Antonio added in due time. They all have TPA and MCO service, and adding FLL would be only logical.



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6903 times:
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Quoting KstateinALB (Reply 13):
I'm actually guessing either ALB-FLL or ALB-PHX...easily a profitable fight.

In a way, I'd agree.

ALB-FLL would be great in the winter time, but in the summer, I'm not so sure.

As far as ALB-PHX, MHT-PHX is doing above expectations. So, I'd think ALB-PHX would do well.

However, with oil pushing $100 a barrel, and WN leaning away from transcons, I'm not sure.

Who knows.  Smile

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 16):
says 432 people travel DEN-OMA daily. I'm not sure if that includes connections also. Combining UA and F9's seat totals, there is already 1210 seats each way daily. I'm not sure if that could be supported. Do you know if F9 and UA usually have full planes?

I could see WN 2x daily on DEN-OMA eventually. They could grab anywhere from a 1/3-1/2 of the O&D and fill both flights. But, can WN grab that much? Who knows. I believe UA and F9 adjust capacity accordingly, so I would think the flights do decent, carrying a lot of both O&D and connecting.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 17):
DL & B6 get some competition on this route. Is it possible in the 5-10 year window that SLC will feature a similar 3 way battle between DL, B6 & WN as DEN currently has with UA, F9 & WN?

I could see that. Decent O&D market. and WN has shown they aren't afraid to get into a 3 way competition.



Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6898 times:

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 16):

www.faremeasure.com says 432 people travel DEN-OMA daily. I'm not sure if that includes connections also. Combining UA and F9's seat totals, there is already 1210 seats each way daily. I'm not sure if that could be supported. Do you know if F9 and UA usually have full planes?

United averages 85% to 90% and Frontier a little less...around 70% to 75%. The vast majority of these are connections. United and frontier used to routinely start flights at $290 roundtrip. Now they seem to start around $220-$240. For an easy 540 mile drive (7 hours), most people, including myself drive this instead of flying for that price. If southwest came with 4 daily flights, they would lower the fares to $120 roundtrip and generate a ton more passengers (50% more?). I would now fly it instead of driving it.

In addition, this would make connections to the cities like SLC and ABQ easier.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32796 posts, RR: 71
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6885 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 19):

In a way, I'd agree.

ALB-FLL would be great in the winter time, but in the summer, I'm not so sure.

South Floridians flock to Saratoga Springs in the summer time. It's a summer retreat and popular second-home location for people in Miami and Fort Lauderdale, and Albany is the main gateway. The market is still 250+ O&D in the summer.



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User currently offlineYanksn4 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1404 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6857 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Thread starter):
DEN

DEN-LAX
DEN-SAN
DEN-AUS (second flight)

Possible:

DEN-SAT
DEN-STL
DEN-PHL
DEN-PDX
DEN-MSY
DEN-FLL
DEN-SFO

won't happen, but DEN-ISP would be really nice  pray 



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6849 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 18):
And that's only to FLL, and only during the slow travel period. During peak travel, South Florida-Albany has over 450 passengers per day. I believe that Albany is the biggest domestic O&D market from South Florida not served non-stop.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 21):
South Floridians flock to Saratoga Springs in the summer time. It's a summer retreat and popular second-home location for people in Miami and Fort Lauderdale, and Albany is the main gateway. The market is still 250+ O&D in the summer.

Interesting. I wasn't thinking of FLL/MIA-ALB traffic in the summer.

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 20):
If southwest came with 4 daily flights, they would lower the fares to $120 roundtrip and generate a ton more passengers (50% more?). I would now fly it instead of driving it.

In addition, this would make connections to the cities like SLC and ABQ easier.

  
I would be surprised to see 4x right off the bat, but who knows.

The other thing is, WN doesn't like to connect people in DEN. IIRC fees are higher there than LAS and PHX.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 18):
I would hope to see Albany, Albuquerque, Austin, Manchester, Norfolk, and San Antonio added in due time. They all have TPA and MCO service, and adding FLL would be only logical.

     

Quoting Yanksn4 (Reply 22):
won't happen, but DEN-ISP would be really nice

Why not?

I wasn't saying they were going to announce all of them, just a pool to choose from.

I don't see DEN-ISP high up on the list.

[Edited 2007-11-05 16:07:46]


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6821 times:

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 16):
Do you know if F9 and UA usually have full planes?

Yes, especially UA.

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 20):
Now they seem to start around $220-$240. For an easy 540 mile drive (7 hours), most people, including myself drive this instead of flying for that price

For $34/hr, I'd rather fly. My time is worth more. Plus wear and tear on my car, fuel, and the exhaustion of a 7 hr drive. $240 is a bargain.


25 Post contains images CBERFlyer : I've flown DEN-BWI-DEN on WN a number of times in the past year or so, and it is usually perhaps 75% full. This morning, though... they had all of 3
26 Post contains images 7E72004 : I think they will open up DET-DTW
27 Post contains images Iowaman : Oh, yes, and LAX-SNA, LAX-BUR, and BWI-IAD as well.
28 Post contains links FXramper : article
29 ERJ170 : Well, perhaps a RDU-DEN as the United flight goes out oversold and there is still healthy O&D that connects..
30 Whappeh : A powerful route system that will have the Cabs of the general Tri-City area scared.
31 RSWA330 : RSW-PVD I can't believe that no carrier has snatched that route up yet. I've heard it was a really good performer for NK.
32 Super80DFW : I thought Southwest was downsizing ISP. I flew on Southwest DEN-MCI in August and there were only 53 people onboard. It was probably my best flight I
33 AirTranTUS : If it was SQ, they'd serve a meal on that flight. Signed, (pick somebody)
34 PVD757 : me neither. This is low hanging fruit at this point. PVD-DEN, JAX, and/or RDU would be great too.
35 Ncflyer : My bet is they cut another flight or two out of CLE. It's been a slow trickle down, eliminating PHX and a BWI frequency the last go 'round. MDW used t
36 Iowaman : Possible, but I doubt it's very far up the list. CLE did lose PHX, however they have gained a daily LAS, and 2x MCO in the past year.
37 N1120A : That is just O&D That isn't an easy drive, and I have driven over 1000 miles in a day. Anyway, WN has been retrenching in the policy that has made th
38 SLCUT2777 : DL/OO offers direct service on this route (SLC-OMA). But such competition will help drive down the price. They already compete with both DL and HP+US
39 Dw9115 : I would love to see these routes come to Omaha but I do wonder how well Southwest would do on a BWI route with Midwest flying to DCA and a loyal and
40 Gunsontheroof : It has to. I've used it several times to look at traffic on routes that I know aren't served non-stop. 432 is a pretty low number for a route that se
41 Post contains images Iowaman : Very true. I think a once daily non-stop MCO would work very well though. Heck, if FSD, DSM, and CID can support SFB, OMA can easily support a MCO fl
42 DIA77 : I believe that Faremeasure tracks O/D passengers between a given city pair (not just nonstop flights). It does not include passengers who are flying
43 AirlineBrat : We will be offering a modified inflight service on this leg. You will receive a modified bag of peanuts with exactly 7 peanuts in there and a complem
44 RSWA330 : It should be. It can't get more obvious than PVD-RSW. I still can't believe WN hasn't already jumped on this.
45 B757capt : Lots of talk about TransCon and long haul in this thread, I thought WN was moving back to the old 1-2-3 stops plan.
46 BA : They are now using Midwest Airlines' gate (C48) when it's not being used.
47 MAH4546 : Well, considering how long it took them to jump on FLL-BUF and FLL-PVD, it might be a while.
48 Post contains images WestJetYQQ : Sweet! Scenic flights over the Bay area......In a 737!
49 AS739X : Just a little info on the SFO front: Gate 23 opened this week which brings WN to 3 active gates Gate 21 is close to being opened, this will bring acti
50 RL757PVD : Any of these would work.. but really i'd settle for just one of these PVD-PIT PVD-DEN PVD-RDU PVD-STL PVD-HOU Id rather them not do any more PVD-FLA,
51 Iowaman : Thank you for the update. Interesting info. My thoughts exactly. Would be nice, although none of those stand out in my head.
52 Post contains images Atrude777 : You base this on what? ANYTHING out of DEN is fairly likely....DEN-ISP will not happen. Dude, read above, already posted Of Course, ANYTHING out of R
53 Steeler83 : PITops already posted what I was about to post... so... not much more else to add. I guess we'll see where things are at in 1-2 years or so.
54 SANFan : Thanks for the SF-update ASSFO. I'm sure we will see some new stuff into SFO on the new-flts announcement although I would be surprised to see WN try
55 BA : C50 is a bus boarding gate. There is no actual jet bridge.
56 SANFan : Ahhh, so that's the gate reserved for Skybus, eh? Thanks for the clarification BA. OK, WN currently has 5+ gates and it appears YX uses gate C48 only
57 SJC4Me : I wonder if they'll ever start their own nerdbird. (SJC-AUS)
58 Oakjam : I can commute home somedays from OAK-SFO/SFO-OAK since I work next to the Airport and live close to OAK.
59 MSYtristar : I'd love to see: MSY-DEN (1x) MSY-LAX (1x) MSY-SFO or OAK (1x) ...and an additional frequency to TPA,BWI,MDW,PHX.
60 Post contains images ShannoninAMA : Dang, Temper issues? Much more probable then most wish list flights! Shan
61 RL757PVD : That sounds like BOS/PVD/MHT combined... PVD-STL i think ranges 120-250 O&D depending on the season. PVD-STL-DAL direct would be really nice. Yea at
62 Post contains images NIKV69 : I am still waiting for IFP-LAS. 39.95 round trip as well?
63 VictorKilo : Looking at the DOT Q1 O&D data, from which one can figure out revenue per mile for O&D passengers, I'm going to predict the following new routes: PHX-
64 Dacman : Working at SNA, I'm hoping we don't get an SFO flight due to the flow issues at SFO and gate issues at SNA. We would be hard pressed to babysit an air
65 SLCUT2777 : I'm quite amazed WN has never jumped on this one given it was a popular Morris Air route back in the early 1990s. The same holds true with SLC-SNA.
66 N200WN : I would expect most of the new flying to be centered on DEN and SFO, and NE to Florida, then some added surprises in there. I am too. WN operated this
67 Iowaman : I wouldn't think it would be any worse than PHX or LAS. Probably better actually, as SFO isn't nearly as busy as it use to be in 2000. With the slot
68 Post contains images BA : You can say that. The gate will be closed down soon because the 10-gate expansion of Concourse C will start from there. You're right. WN is definitel
69 USAirALB : Eventually, WN WILL serve ALB-PHX/FLL. My mom lives in Saratoga, I live about 5 mins. from ALB, so I know for a fact that at least 35% of the summer p
70 FL787 : There was a rumor going around that WN might announce a codeshare with AS. Any thoughts?
71 Post contains images 7E72004 : What about PNE-MDW or PNE-PHX
72 PITops : Station manager today said that he thinks WN will announce expansion plans for PIT in the next week or so. Everyone keep your fingers crossed!
73 Post contains images Yellowtail : Come on....go for something original lihe another MSY-HOU rotation they can pack to the gills! Why reinvent the wheel
74 SLCUT2777 : The catch is that most passengers who have SLC as their O&D hate making a stop, especially at another airport like a PHX or LAS nearby in the west. B
75 Post contains images MSYtristar : Well you know, I like to think outside the box when it comes to new routes.
76 Post contains images Steeler83 : Oh they will be. I guess they'll add LAS and PHX frequencies
77 SANFan : Hey N200', I'll check on that (I do not remember AA ever flying SAN-SLC but I sure could be wrong); in the meantime, I DO remember that UA's first de
78 AS739X : Tell that to the half dozen planes in holding right now! SFO ATC is quickly coming back to where is was in years past. WN knows what they were in for
79 Post contains links OPNLguy : Some of that here as well.. http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=105250 Won't have long to wait to find out..
80 AS739X : That rumor is floating around Alaska alot as well.... ASSFO
81 KstateinALB : I concur, it's a route that is needed to be served. Just like what ALB-TPA is today, a route that after years of waiting, has been popuuuulllaaarrr h
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