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Where Will Emirates Start Flying In 2008?  
User currently offlineAddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6781 times:

With 23 new aircraft (including 4 A380s) joining the fleet in 2008, Emirates is bound to expand its route network, and there seems to be no shortage of rumors about possible new destinations.... here are some - to name just a few:

Europe
- Prague (PRG)
- Copenhagen (CPH)
- Stockholm (ARN)
- St Petersburg (LED)
- Barcelona (BCN)


North America
- Chicago (ORD)
- Montreal (YUL)

Asis
- Almaty (ALA)
- Tashkent (TAS)
- Chengdu (CTU)
- Ho Chi Min (SGN)
- Amritsar (ATQ)

Any comments?

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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3018 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6763 times:

there were some rumours about a new destination in Turkey, most probably Ankara (ESB) with A332 equipment. as much as I would love to see them starting that route as much I doubt it. but looking at the Turkish market a second daily 332 flight to IST is more likely...

DUB is also a big fish in Europe!


User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1010 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6748 times:

I would add YYC to that list for North America. They came through YYC on September 24th and announced their intentions to serve YYC in the near future as soon as the bilateral can be worked out between Canada and the UAE. In fact I would dare say YYC will get the service before YUL. One needs to look no farther than LH's new service starting to YYC in April, where they will be offering an exclusive membership for Oil and Gas business travellers to get more points and upgrades due to the industry they work in. Emirates as well must recognize the value of YYC having all the oil and gas company HQ's here and want to capitalize on that with its network into the Middle East.

User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3018 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6723 times:

I would also add some other cities to that list:

Lisbon (LIS)
Capetown (CPT)
Caracas (CCS)
Guangzhou (CAN)
Luanda (LAD)


User currently offlineAddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6707 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 3):
I would also add some other cities to that list:

Lisbon (LIS)
Capetown (CPT)
Caracas (CCS)
Guangzhou (CAN)
Luanda (LAD)

I can see Guangzhou and (may be) Lisbon, but why Caracas or Luanda? A mere fact of these two being capitals of oil-producing countries does not, IMHO, mean that there is any significant demand for flights between Middle East and these cities...


User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1666 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6687 times:

Quoting C172Akula (Reply 2):
I would add YYC to that list for North America. They came through YYC on September 24th and announced their intentions to serve YYC in the near future as soon as the bilateral can be worked out between Canada and the UAE. In fact I would dare say YYC will get the service before YUL. One needs to look no farther than LH's new service starting to YYC in April, where they will be offering an exclusive membership for Oil and Gas business travellers to get more points and upgrades due to the industry they work in. Emirates as well must recognize the value of YYC having all the oil and gas company HQ's here and want to capitalize on that with its network into the Middle East.

First they have to get around the fact that the Canadian government has signalled in no uncertain terms that upgrading that bilateral is not a priority. Relations between the two governments are not at their best, and whether aviation is the reason, or the hostage, is hard to say, but right now I'd say that efforts by the UAE to strongarm the Canadian government are unlikely to succeed.


User currently offlineF1eddie From Ireland, joined May 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6660 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 1):
DUB is also a big fish in Europe

Yup there are rumors that EI is going to pull DXB to put the AC on north american routes and if they do im sure they will be in like a shot. Time will only tell



Flown on EI, FR, BMI, TG, PG, FD, JQ, DJ, LA, NZ, SQ, DL, LX, LH
User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3018 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6648 times:

Quoting Addd (Reply 4):
I can see Guangzhou and (may be) Lisbon, but why Caracas or Luanda? A mere fact of these two being capitals of oil-producing countries does not, IMHO, mean that there is any significant demand for flights between Middle East and these cities...

you never know! this is Emirates and sometimes the choose of destinations isn't that logical.

[Edited 2007-11-05 13:38:46]

User currently offlineAddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6611 times:

So, here comes the updated list:

Europe
- Prague (PRG)
- Copenhagen (CPH)
- Stockholm (ARN)
- St Petersburg (LED)
- Barcelona (BCN)
- Lisbon (LIS)
- Dublin (DUB)

North America
- Chicago (ORD)

Asia
- Almaty (ALA)
- Tashkent (TAS)
- Chengdu (CTU)
- Guangzhou (CAN)
- Ho Chi Min (SGN)
- Amritsar (ATQ)
- Ankara (ESB) - it still sounds like a possibility to me despite Stylo777's pessimism... Smile


User currently offlineCYQL From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 87 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6557 times:

Quoting Sebring (Reply 5):
First they have to get around the fact that the Canadian government has signalled in no uncertain terms that upgrading that bilateral is not a priority. Relations between the two governments are not at their best, and whether aviation is the reason, or the hostage, is hard to say, but right now I'd say that efforts by the UAE to strongarm the Canadian government are unlikely to succeed.

The UAE should have some leverage over Canada. We have had a base near Dubai since 2001.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Mirage


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6552 times:

IAH-DXB will go from 3x weekly to daily.


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineAddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6534 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 10):
IAH-DXB will go from 3x weekly to daily

... but Emirates does not fly to IAH at the moment. If anything, it is a possible new destination for 2008.


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6472 times:

Quoting Addd (Reply 11):
Quoting Ssides (Reply 10):
IAH-DXB will go from 3x weekly to daily

... but Emirates does not fly to IAH at the moment. If anything, it is a possible new destination for 2008.

Possible? Starts in 27days... http://www.emirates.com/usa/Travelle...re_fly/newroutes/2007new_route.asp



Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre.
User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3018 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6457 times:

Quoting Addd (Reply 11):
... but Emirates does not fly to IAH at the moment. If anything, it is a possible new destination for 2008.

maybe you mixed up IAH with IAH in your mind... IAD was also in talks several months ago...


User currently offlineA350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6441 times:

I hope for TXL and STR, but seeing the current vague of protectionism in Germany I'm not really optimist.

Cheers

A350



Photography - the art of observing, not the art of arranging
User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3018 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6414 times:

Quoting A350 (Reply 14):
I hope for TXL and STR, but seeing the current vague of protectionism in Germany I'm not really optimist.

wasn't there a rumour that they will start serving a Polish city very close to TXL?? I think this won't happen, but IIRC there were some talks.


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3824 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6339 times:

Quoting Addd (Reply 8):
North America
- Chicago (ORD)

Don't forget LAX, IAD, and/or SFO... EK is very interested in serving those cities. In fact, EK almost launched nonstop DXB-SFO in 2004 with the A345 (it was even loaded into CRS systems for a few days)... but if EK serves DXB-SFO nonstop, it's most likely to be with the 777-200LR (same goes for LAX). Either that, or a 777-300ER with a stop somewhere in Europe.

As for ORD and IAD, they would most likely be a nonstop 773ER to DXB, as the 773ER has the range to do ORD/IAD-DXB nonstop.

And don't be surprised if JFK-DXB goes A380 ASAP.



"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offlineSkyteam2000 From Spain, joined Apr 2004, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6339 times:

Please do not forget South America

Buenos Aires EZE
Bogota BOG

and 2 daily São Paulo


User currently offlineAddd From United States of America, joined May 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6220 times:

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 13):
Quoting Addd (Reply 11):
... but Emirates does not fly to IAH at the moment. If anything, it is a possible new destination for 2008.

maybe you mixed up IAH with IAH in your mind... IAD was also in talks several months ago...

I did indeed - I was thinking Washington-Dulles (IAD).... of course, they are starting Houston (IAH) in Novemnber 2007.

Quoting Skyteam2000 (Reply 17):
Please do not forget South America

Buenos Aires EZE
Bogota BOG

and 2 daily São Paulo

In 2008? I doubt it. And Bogota - where would the loads come from (stereotypical jokes about Colombia aside)?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33268 posts, RR: 71
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6213 times:

While certainly not in 2008, they've already indiciated that Miami is a question of when, not if. I think we will see at least two new U.S. cities in 2008. Chicago and San Francisco are my wildcard guesses, with 2-3 new North American cities coming online each year through at least 2011.


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27295 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6199 times:

Quoting Addd (Reply 8):
Dublin (DUB)

Whilst DUB is doing extremely well for EY and loads are 80% and over if EK came on the route this would be divided between them. DUB can sustain one carrier DUB-AUH/DXB and onwards to Far East , Australia but I doubt 2 Middle East carriers would do as well as EY is now. Its 50/50 as to whether EK will come to DUB. EY have established themselves very well here and EK would have to go head to head against them.


User currently offlineRicardoFG From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6196 times:

I say:

ORD
LAX
SFO
YYC (If bilateral is changed)
DUB
BCN

Not Likely:
ARN
YUL
PRG

No Shot:
LIS
LAD


User currently offlineKlm-md11 From Greece, joined Mar 2002, 471 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6145 times:

Amsterdam!!!!

A
M
S
T
E
R
D
A
M

Why not??

EK shoulda been here ages ago!!



GELUK IS GELUL MET EEN K
User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6132 times:

Add MZJ, GYR, VCV, and ROW in the next few years ... maybe later.

One-ways.

Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineSqb7e From New Zealand, joined Feb 2007, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6102 times:

I hope they do start Chengdu, its such an awesome city! Does anyone see this as being likely?

25 B752OS : That is quite a bit of expansion, that could be anywhere from 8-11 new cities. Not including YYZ, IAH that leaves only a few possibilities. Any guess
26 Antskip : EK has a far superior network both sides of there respective hubs in the UAE. For example, in Australasia, EK has a very significant presence in AKL,
27 Flyyul : When people make comments on these boards, do they have any sense of market sizes? Its great to speculate, but EK has data on market sizes, and acts a
28 Aussie747 : I am surprised ADL is not on the list.
29 C010T3 : GRU will most likely not go double daily any time soon, since EK has already applied to frequencies to GIG. DXB-GIG-EZE is what it is being rumoured.
30 MAH4546 : My entirely uneducated guesses would be something along the lines of... 2008: O'Hare, San Francisco 2009: Dulles, Los Angeles, Mexico City 2010: Miam
31 Stylo777 : first I thought the same and would love to see that route, but there are no traffic rights at the moment which allows EK to fly to the Netherlands. O
32 Post contains images C172Akula : I made my comments based on statements by EK with regards to YYC when they came through here in September. If that is not good enough to put us on th
33 AeroMexico777 : HI! Is there any rumors of EK coming to MEX? It would be superb to see their airliners arriving here... maybe 777LR? Regards, AeroMexico777
34 Sebring : Well, sometimes airlines say things to whip up airport authorities so they will support their desire for expanded bilateral rights, but something lik
35 CPH757 : Perhaps not any O&D traffic between Dubai and Luanda. I could imagine that they could capture a good bit of the fast-growing China-Angola market, esp
36 AM744 : I could see them landing here if and only if they are granted 5th freedom rights to/from a point in Europe. Not very likely IMO.
37 Sebring : That assumes everything across the Pacific remains status quo. I do not make that assumption. A Pacific nonstop to DEL is likely within the timeframe
38 FLYYUL : Emirates has literally listed every major North American international city as a candidate for service. Including Seattle, Boston etc.
39 Flying lsd : and brussels,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,??????????????
40 Behramjee : My speculated list for EK in 2008 based upon news articles, comments made by EK management over the last year etc would be as follows : North America
41 AA1818 : I don't think so! I'll take a stab and include some personal biases! EDI DUB BCN CPT LIS CPH PRG ORD YUL AA1818
42 JFK787NYC : Tel Aviv LOL Joke When Emirates starts flying A380s to cities like New York? Will their prices go down alittle bit?
43 LXA340 : Maybe GVA, I could see quite some demand there. Also wasn't there once a rumour about NUE...would be the very first long haul flight for Nurnberg, Ger
44 Mike1974 : to my understanding the UAE and Mexico signed a memerandium aviation bilateral agreement which gives 5th freedom rights to EK to fly into MEX from Eu
45 Post contains images Lightsaber : Really? Wow... interesting bilateral for Dubai to sign. There is a big hole in EK's route map in that part of Europe... If it does anything like thei
46 AeroMexico777 : Hope so.... May it be via MXP or FCO ? As currently we dont have any direct flight to Italy Regards, AeroMexico777
47 Stylo777 : EK093 DXB-MXP-FCO-DXB daily with 773
48 Post contains images Addd : I guess AeroMexico777 meant there are currently no direct flights between MEXICO and Italy...
49 Stylo777 : that's for sure, I understood that already, but due to the actual schedule which is a triangle flight I don't think they make an additional tag-on to
50 Jambo : What about Harare Lilongwe Lusaka and kigali. I know the Zimbabwean Govt. is trying to bring in Emirates after BA and now most likely Ethiopian pullin
51 Stylo777 : what do you think of a multi-stop flight to HRE/LUN/HRE and a tag-on to WDH???
52 YVR1968 : . Just because a roadshow makes a pitstop in a particular city does not mean anything. SQ just brought their A380 show here to Melbourne and there is
53 Philly65 : I think PRG is a long shot along with ARN, LIS, DUB, and WAW. Tashkent and Alma Aty should have been served long ago. I think a California city (prob
54 Evolv : Just wanted to point out that Emirates Cargo has their Canadian head office in Calgary. I think much of Emirates interest comes from amount of high y
55 Avianca : even they could get a part of the Europe-Luanda traffic via DXB !!!! as seen on JNB runs.... well Venezuela has a bigger Middle East comunity ! Speci
56 Post contains images Super80DFW : At DFW, we are waiting for both QF and EK to announce nonstop service!
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