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DL To Start MSY-BOS Saturday Nonstop Service  
User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6079 times:

Well, Saturday-only service is a start. I'd imagine it will go daily eventually. Again, I have to tip my hat to DL for expanding service from New Orleans. Just a few years ago, DL service to MSY was down to ATL/CVG/DFW only. Now, DL flies nonstop to ATL/CVG/SLC/MCO/LGA/LAX/BOS.

*DL 5076 /FAY 6 MSYBOS 1600 2010 CR9 0

*DL 5077 /FAY 6 BOSMSY 0830 1101 CR9 0

The CR9 seems like the right sized a/c for this market. Looking at the DL timetables for that period, I'm not sure where that plane will be coming from to make up the 4:00pm departure to BOS. I'm sure the schedules will be twinked some between now and then.

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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4133 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6016 times:

These days, I guess whining about the aircraft size takes a back seat to the fact that DL is connecting two dots on the map that really ought to be connected. Bravo for a route that should do well, seeing that it's a Saturday-only run.

Chris in NH


User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6006 times:
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BOS to New Orleans in an RJ? I'd rather take the E-190 instead of the CR9, thanks...


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5997 times:

Quoting Dvincent (Reply 2):
BOS to New Orleans in an RJ? I'd rather take the E-190 instead of the CR9, thanks...

Yeah, I would too, but B6 hasn't taken the plunge in this market yet.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 1):
These days, I guess whining about the aircraft size takes a back seat to the fact that DL is connecting two dots on the map that really ought to be connected

You know a few years ago, I would have sort of been dissapointed had I seen a plane smaller than say a 737 on this route. But nowadays I guess it's pretty much par for the course. Once a week nonstop on a CR9 is better than no nonstops.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6775 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5998 times:

Quoting Dvincent (Reply 2):
BOS to New Orleans in an RJ? I'd rather take the E-190 instead of the CR9, thanks...

Would you rather take a CR9 nonstop and spend 2-ish hours or connect and spend 5-ish hours? Cut the complaining and just be glad that the service is offered.. There are a LOT of other places that would gladly take a CR9.. sheesh.



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User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5977 times:
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Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 4):
Would you rather take a CR9 nonstop and spend 2-ish hours or connect and spend 5-ish hours? Cut the complaining and just be glad that the service is offered.. There are a LOT of other places that would gladly take a CR9.. sheesh.

Some service is better than no service, I agree, but I would still like the E-190. I've always preferred it over the CR9. I realize DL doesn't fly it and it's just wishful thinking. Don't let my personal feelings on the aircraft let you think that I don't like the idea of the route.  Wink



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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6493 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5959 times:

Quoting Dvincent (Reply 5):
Some service is better than no service, I agree, but I would still like the E-190. I've always preferred it over the CR9

How many times have you flown on either of these aircraft to be able to compare them? With which airlines?


User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5946 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 1):
These days, I guess whining about the aircraft size takes a back seat to the fact that DL is connecting two dots on the map that really ought to be connected. Bravo for a route that should do well, seeing that it's a Saturday-only run.

I think the flight will do well not only on a Saturday only basis, but if it went daily too.


This is great news for both Boston and New Orleans. It's about time someone jumped on the route after AA left it vacant.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5929 times:

Quoting B752OS (Reply 7):
I think the flight will do well not only on a Saturday only basis, but if it went daily too.

I think it will go daily eventually. A CR9 really shouldn't be that hard to fill. The times are pretty good for cruise ship passengers taking a cruise out of N.O, as well.


User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5920 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 8):
Quoting B752OS (Reply 7):
I think the flight will do well not only on a Saturday only basis, but if it went daily too.

I think it will go daily eventually. A CR9 really shouldn't be that hard to fill. The times are pretty good for cruise ship passengers taking a cruise out of N.O, as well.

It's too bad B6 didn't jump on this route, although I still think it is a good possibility, especially when you look at what JFK is going to be going through.


User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5906 times:
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Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 6):
How many times have you flown on either of these aircraft to be able to compare them? With which airlines?

I've flown on E-190s for JetBlue several times, and I've been on a CR9 twice (both US airways trips). I guess I just prefer the cabin overall on JB's E-190s. But to be fair I was on these for fairly short trips (less than two hours). And the CR9 is better than a lot of other stuff, but I just prefer the E-190.

I'm not saying the route is bad for Delta. Just that if I had my choice I'd have an E-190. :V



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5891 times:

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 6):
How many times have you flown on either of these aircraft to be able to compare them? With which airlines?

Can't speak for him but i've ridden on both and they are comparable in my opinion...



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5797 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
The CR9 seems like the right sized a/c for this market

I'm happy to see it. I'dve figured they'd put the CR9 into LGA and given BOS that CR7 or a CRJ.

Guessing this flight is supposed to be yearround, and not just seasonal like AA's, right?


User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5780 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 12):
Guessing this flight is supposed to be yearround, and not just seasonal like AA's, right?

It looks like it's running through at least the end of April. But those schedules are far from done so if it does well they'll probably extend it.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5775 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 8):
The times are pretty good for cruise ship passengers taking a cruise out of N.O, as well.

Hum, could they have a contract with a cruise line, or otherwise a once a week flight doesn't make any sense at all.


User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5752 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 14):
Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 8):
The times are pretty good for cruise ship passengers taking a cruise out of N.O, as well.


Hum, could they have a contract with a cruise line, or otherwise a once a week flight doesn't make any sense at all.



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 13):
Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 12):
Guessing this flight is supposed to be yearround, and not just seasonal like AA's, right?

It looks like it's running through at least the end of April. But those schedules are far from done so if it does well they'll probably extend it.

I doubt DL would run a seasonal, once weekly domestic route. Aside from the local demand, a cruise contract would certainly help the flight out.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33041 posts, RR: 71
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5690 times:

Quoting B752OS (Reply 15):

I doubt DL would run a seasonal, once weekly domestic route.

Of course they would. They run plenty of once weekly, seasonal routes to vacation destinations, although most are international. This flight is using a CR9 that is otherwise parked on Saturdays during reduced weekend flying. As of now, this flight is seasonal.



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User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5673 times:

Quoting B752OS (Reply 15):
a cruise contract would certainly help the flight out.

Can a CR9 handle the mountains of baggage that cruise passengers inherently bring?


User currently offlineRcardinale From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5602 times:

wow i was not expecting this from DL! Nice to see someone on this route since AA dropped their mad dog service. I still think that B6 will jump on this route with an early morning dep from BOS and an afternoon turn from MSY

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5527 times:

Quoting Rcardinale (Reply 18):
wow i was not expecting this from DL!

Eh, could see if you were talking about US... as the new version of that carrier seems to have forgotten about this market from its NE and SW outposts. Pity too, seeing as it was said here (take it for what it is) by several individuals that MSY was long (old) US' most profitable non-hub non-focus station.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5514 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 19):
as the new version of that carrier seems to have forgotten about this market from its NE and SW outposts.

Well they def. need to throw in at least 1x A319/737 to PHX. I don't think they'll add LAS since WN now flies it twice daily.

US MSY ops will look something like this in January...not too bad, at least no CRJ's.

CLT: 5 (1x E75, 2x 319, 2x 734)
PHL: 3 (2x 319, 1x 733)
DCA: 3 (1x 319, 1x E70, 1x E75)


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5468 times:

Quoting Dvincent (Reply 2):
BOS to New Orleans in an RJ? I'd rather take the E-190 instead of the CR9, thanks...

Be grateful you're getting anything at all. Choosers can't be winners. (or something like that?) Whiners can't be choosers?


?



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5344 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 16):
Quoting B752OS (Reply 15):

I doubt DL would run a seasonal, once weekly domestic route.

Of course they would. They run plenty of once weekly, seasonal routes to vacation destinations, although most are international. This flight is using a CR9 that is otherwise parked on Saturdays during reduced weekend flying. As of now, this flight is seasonal.

Sure DL and their BOS-CUN service makes sense for example, but MSY is not a high tourist destination for people from New England, not like CUN or AUA is for example.


My money is this flight does well and goes daily.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5273 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 21):
Choosers can't be winners. (or something like that?) Whiners can't be choosers?

Though I have no idea why you'd attempt you use a quip you don't know/understand-- it's "Beggars can't be Choosers".

Quoting B752OS (Reply 22):
but MSY is not a high tourist destination for people from New England, not like CUN or AUA is for example.

Perhaps, but that could be augmented by the (alleged) tie-in with NOLA's cruise industry, as an alternative duplicate to what departs Florida.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33041 posts, RR: 71
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5223 times:

Quoting B752OS (Reply 22):
but MSY is not a high tourist destination for people from New England, not like CUN or AUA is for example.

The flight probably is operating thanks to a cruise contract. Which is also probably behind FL's new IND-MSY Saturday flights.

Quoting B752OS (Reply 22):
My money is this flight does well and goes daily.

I wouldn't bet on it if this is indeed operating with a cruise contract.



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25 ConcordeBoy : Why? There's certainly a market between the two cities. If not enough for a daily CR9, perhaps sufficient for a CRJ at yield.
26 MAH4546 : Cruise contracts eventually expire. The market is there for a daily MSY-BOS flight, at least seasonally, but it's best handled by a mainline jet, IMO
27 Bobnwa : New Orleans is not like MIA or FLL with cruise ships leaving every day. The cruise passengers would travel on the cruise days . Also cruise contracts
28 MSYtristar : Well, the timing of both flights could indicate a potential hook up with a cruise line of some sort, but looking at the cruise schedule, neither flig
29 ConcordeBoy : ...is Princess still supposed to come here, or has that been put on ice?
30 MSYtristar : They ran a few cruises last year, and they said they will come back offering at least seasonal cruises when the Poland Ave cruise terminal opens in a
31 ConcordeBoy : ...and Royal Caribbean has pulled out for good, no questions, right?
32 MSYtristar : The port director said he thinks they'll be back in a couple of years. They have some new ship deliveries so I guess we'll see. Majestic America Line
33 ConcordeBoy : ...sorta like the UA station manager who's been saying SFO-MSY will be back "any day now" for about the last two years?
34 MSYPI7185 : This flight should do well and I bet will go daily and possible with larger a/c, if not an additional frequency. At US we were begging for nonstop to
35 MSYtristar : Well I think it's kinda different since station manager's usually don't have any inside info as to what route planning decides to do. At every airlin
36 Bobnwa : In my experience, the sales manager in a city would let corporate know about demand for new flights, not the station manager. At all airlines the sta
37 MSYtristar : Well I was just basing my previous post on my experiences with Vanguard, Frontier, and Air Tran in New Orleans. All of those carriers had relatively
38 Bobnwa : You are probably right about the smaller carriers. I was basing my statement on carriers like AA,DL,UA,US,HP,WN,NW,AC and the foreign carriers in the
39 HVNandrew : DL is also starting another Saturday route out of BOS: BOS-SRQ begins February 16 on a MD88. I wonder if it will be with a Shuttle aircraft?
40 MSYtristar : You would be correct. I don't see F class for sale in the availability display. That'd be a pretty nice ride down to SRQ on a Shuttle MD88!
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