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Aicraft For The CO CLE Expansion  
User currently offlineHighliner2 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 696 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

With the CO expansion of CLE beginning next year I was curious as to where the aircraft for this expansion are going to come from? Initially most of these new routes will be flown with ERJ's. Where are they coming from? Is Expressjet or Chautauqua set to get a boost in flying, as in adding aircraft to their respective CPA? XJT sure could use it...


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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Most of the RJ's are coming from EWR and some routes will be with the Q200's/Q400's. As far as mainline the new routes (other then CDG) havent been announced yet, But CO does have 73NG's on order.


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User currently offlineFlyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Maybe CO will allow XJT to bring some of those 69 aircraft back into the fleet to use in hubs?


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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2752 times:

For the most part, the RJ's going to CLE will come from EWR, where they will be replaced by Q400's.

Edit: Oops, Cle757's reply wasn't showing when I posted. Sorry for the duplication.

[Edited 2007-11-09 00:03:21]


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User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2462 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2672 times:

Some "new" cities (LAN & AZO come to mind) will be operated with the Commutair Dash-8 Q200.


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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1696 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

CLE-OKC has already started with a twice daily ERJ. Still just one to EWR though.


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User currently offlineContinental180 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2630 times:

I am very excited for this, it is finally good to see improvements and to take advantage of their hubs.

Recently, they said they were going to be adding over 50 new destinations from Cleveland, and a few international.

I would expect the B739's and some ERJ's.....i dont think we will see much B752's becuase really, cleveland isnt that crowded enough that they would need to be increasing aircraft size for routes..

As a big continental fan, and having newark as home airport, it is good to see some change....

Main reason they are doing this, is becuase there is no room, and really gates for continental to take at T3 and T2.

Regards,

Tyler


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

The Q400s going to EWR will free up all the ERJs currently tied up doing PVD/BDL/MHT/PWM/BTV/ALB/SYR/ROC/ACK/MVY/BWI etc... those ERJs are going to CLE


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User currently offlineContinental180 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 7):
The Q400s going to EWR will free up all the ERJs currently tied up doing

you mean continental connection


User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

Any guesses to the new mainline cities?
PDX
SLC
SAN-year round
ATL
ORD
DFW
MEX



Cleveland the best location in the Nation
User currently offlineContinental180 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

This is there press release....a little bit old.

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CONTINENTAL AIRLINES ANNOUNCES MAJOR EXPANSION

AT CLEVELAND HOPKINS INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT



CLEVELAND, Sept.14, 2007 – Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL), along with Mayor Frank G. Jackson and Governor Ted Strickland, announced a plan by Continental to grow its capacity at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport (CLE) by 40 percent over a two-year period. Continental will initially operate 50 new flights, principally on regional jets, and add 20 new nonstop destinations by next summer. By early 2009, Continental plans to add more than a dozen additional flights, principally on mainline aircraft, further strengthening Cleveland’s role in Continental’s global route network. The project is expected to create an estimated 700 Ohio jobs.

Many of the regional jet aircraft used for the additional service will be reallocated from Newark. Beginning in 2009, a number of additional mainline aircraft will also be allocated to support the growth.

Today’s announcement is the result of a partnership among Continental, the City of Cleveland and the State of Ohio.

“This growth strengthens Cleveland and gives customers more options when connecting within the Continental system,” said Larry Kellner, Continental chairman and chief executive officer. “Mayor Jackson’s partnership, support for air service development and his strong management team at Hopkins were crucial to our decision. We’re also grateful for the leadership and support of Governor Strickland, Lt. Governor Fisher and the State of Ohio, the support of Cleveland City Council and the Ohio Congressional delegation. All this support has helped make it possible for us to grow our presence here.”

“Continental Airlines is making a significant investment in the City of Cleveland and Cleveland Hopkins International Airport. This strategic investment is designed to maximize Cleveland’s assets, create a positive environment for business and serve as a vehicle for tourism to the entire Cleveland Plus region,” said Mayor Jackson. “I’d like to thank Mr. Kellner, Mr. Smisek, Governor Strickland, Lt. Governor Fisher, Director Smith and all who worked with me and my staff to make this vision for Cleveland a reality.”

“The State of Ohio is proud to partner in this effort to support this major expansion in the great City of Cleveland,” said Governor Strickland.

The State offered an incentive package valued at more than $16 million; to date, Continental has been awarded a $900,000 Rapid Outreach Grant, a 70-percent, 10-year Ohio Job Creation Tax Credit, an Ohio Investment in Training program grant valued at up to $550,000, as well as employment pre-screening, testing and recruitment services through the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services.

“Ohio’s world-class transportation infrastructure and airports are strengths for our communities that enhance our economic development goals, and this expansion will bolster Cleveland Hopkins and support business development in Northeast Ohio,” said Lt. Governor Lee Fisher, who also serves as Director of the Ohio Department of Development. “Continental’s expanded air service at Cleveland Hopkins will benefit the entire state by improving access to Ohio and demonstrating to expanding businesses one more reason why more than 1,000 internationally owned establishments from 26 countries are located in Ohio.”

Growth to Take Place in Three Phases During 2007 to 2009: Phase One

Phase one was launched with a significant increase in capacity in 2007 in many mainline markets from Cleveland including:

Destination % capacity increase

San Francisco 45%

Orlando 33%

Seattle 32%

Los Angeles 10%

Seasonal flights to San Diego also began in late December 2006.

The 2007 capacity increase has been achieved through a combination of adding additional flight frequency and using larger aircraft on these routes.

New service to Quebec City began in June of 2007.

Later this month, twice daily flights to Oklahoma City and daily service to Ottawa will begin.

As a result of the growth in 2007, Continental’s operation in Cleveland will be 10 percent larger in 2007 than in 2006.

Phase Two: 12 New Nonstop Destinations

In early 2008, Continental will add 27 new flights to 12 new nonstop destinations including: New Destination Frequency Effective Date

Greensboro, N.C. (GSO) Three times daily March 3, 2008

Omaha, Neb. (OMA) Three times daily March 3, 2008

Savannah, Ga. (SAV) Twice daily March 3, 2008

Birmingham, Ala. (BHM) Twice daily April 6, 2008

Charleston, S.C. (CHS) Once daily April 6, 2008

Green Bay, Wis. (GRB) Twice daily April 6, 2008

Tulsa, Okla. (TUL) Twice daily April 6, 2008

Little Rock, Ark. (LIT) Twice daily May 4, 2008

Memphis, Tenn. (MEM) Twice daily May 4, 2008

Lansing, Mich. (LAN) Three times daily May 4, 2008

Des Moines, Iowa (DSM) Twice daily June 12, 2008

Kalamazoo, Mich. (AZO) Three times daily June 12, 2008

(Weekend schedules may vary).

In addition, previously announced seasonal service to Paris Charles de Gaulle airport (CDG) will begin May 22, 2008. The flight is planned to depart Cleveland at 7:05 p.m. and arrive in Paris at 9:05 a.m. the following day. The return flight will depart Paris at 10:50 a.m. on May 23, 2008, and arrive in Cleveland at 2:00 p.m. the same day. Both flights are served with a Boeing 757 aircraft featuring Continental’s award-winning BusinessFirst cabin. Paris is the second European destination served by Continental from Cleveland, following London Gatwick airport (LGW).

Customers may go online today at continental.com to begin booking and ticketing the new flights. In addition, customers have the option of making reservations by calling Continental at 1-800-523-FARE, or contacting their local travel agent. Introductory fares will be offered in the new markets. (See attached sheet).

Additional cities to be announced later will also be added during Phase Two.

Following the completion of the second phase of the expansion in June 2008, Continental expects to be providing 300 daily departures from Cleveland, up from the 242 daily departures in

June 2007. Total nonstop destinations served from Cleveland will grow from 80 today to 100.

Phase Three

Phase Three will be announced in 2008 and will add more nonstop destinations and a further increase in seats to existing Continental markets. The additional capacity will be in place for the peak summer 2009 travel period.

The Fleet

Continental and its partners have deployed a diverse fleet of aircraft at the Cleveland hub. Flights are operated with Boeing 757s, 737s, Embraer and Canadair Regional Jets, Bombardier Q200s and Beechcraft 1900s. The Beechcraft 1900s will be entirely replaced by Q200s by April 2008. The 37-seat Q200s are quiet, next-generation aircraft featuring state-of-the-art features for passenger comfort. The new routes will be flown by a combination of aircraft types operated by Continental and its regional airline partners.

More Than 700 New Jobs

In order to support the expanded schedule at the Cleveland hub, Continental expects that it and its regional airline partners will hire more than 700 new employees over the next 18 months. Positions will include airport sales agents and customer service agents. In addition, Continental is also hiring pilots and flight attendants. Continental career opportunities are posted at continental.com.

Airport Improvements Support Expansion

To support the growth of Cleveland, future facility plans call for an expanded security checkpoint area, a new meet-and-greet waiting area and additional ticket counters. A concession redevelopment program is underway to provide more retail and food and beverage options for travelers at Cleveland Hopkins - - at prices that are comparable to non-airport locations. Continental and the Airport are also reviewing different options to expand and/or relocate the current Federal Inspection Services (FIS) and customs hall.

Already completed are a new runway and centralized de-icing pad, C Concourse ramp replacement, expansion of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) bag room with a new in-line baggage screening system, and restroom renovations.

Continental Airlines is the world’s fifth largest airline. Continental, together with Continental Express and Continental Connection, has more than 3,100 daily departures throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia, serving 144 domestic and 138 international destinations. More than 400 additional points are served via SkyTeam alliance airlines. With more than 45,000 employees, Continental has hubs serving New York, Houston, Cleveland and Guam, and together with Continental Express, carries approximately 67 million passengers per year. Continental consistently earns awards and critical acclaim for both its operation and its corporate culture.

For the fourth consecutive year, FORTUNE magazine named Continental the No. 1 World’s Most Admired Airline on its 2007 list of World’s Most Admired Companies. Continental was also named the No. 1 airline on the publication’s 2007 America’s Most Admired airline industry list. Additionally, Continental again won major awards at the OAG Airline of the Year Awards including “Best Airline Based in North America” for the fourth year in a row, and “Best Executive/Business Class” for the fifth consecutive year. For more company information, visit continental.com.

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CLEVELAND EXPANSION

PROMOTIONAL FARES





CLEVELAND - PARIS

Continental will offer a low introductory round-trip coach-class fare of $898 midweek/$958 weekend from Cleveland nonstop to Paris. Tickets must be purchased by Sept. 28, 2007. The fare is valid for travel from the day the service starts until Aug. 28, 2008. A Saturday night stay is required and there is a 30-day maximum stay. Tickets are non-refundable and a $200 change fee applies. The sale fare does not include a $2.50 September 11 security fee (each way), passenger facility charges up to $18 (round trip), and international taxes and fees of $94. Fares subject to change without notice, seats are limited and other restrictions apply.





CLEVELAND - DOMESTIC

Continental will offer a low introductory nonstop fare of $198 round trip from Cleveland to the following new markets:

Greensboro, N.C.

Omaha, Neb.

Savannah, Ga.

Birmingham, Ala.

Charleston, S.C.

Green Bay, Wis.

Tulsa, Okla.

Little Rock, Ark.

Memphis, Tenn.

Lansing, Mich.

Des Moines, Iowa

Kalamazoo, Mich.



Tickets must be purchased by Sept. 28, 2007. The fare is valid for travel from the day the service starts until Aug. 28, 2008. A three-night or Friday night stay is required. Tickets are non-refundable and a $100 change fee applies. The sale fare does not include a $3.40 per segment fee (each way), a $2.50 per segment September 11 security fee (each way), and passenger facility charges up to $18 (round trip). Fares subject to change without notice, seats are limited and other restrictions apply.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16885 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

Quoting Highliner2 (Thread starter):
With the CO expansion of CLE beginning next year I was curious as to where the aircraft for this expansion are going to come from? Initially most of these new routes will be flown with ERJ's



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 7):
The Q400s going to EWR will free up all the ERJs currently tied up doing PVD/BDL/MHT/PWM/BTV/ALB/SYR/ROC/ACK/MVY/BWI etc... those ERJs are going to CLE

As mentioned CO wants to increase the amount of travelers they handle at EWR, however they don't want to greatly increase flights and add to the congestion. CO has decided to replace 37 and 50 seat ERJs at EWR with 74 seat Q-400s on flights of less than 500 miles, and with 737s on flights greater than 500 miles. Those ERJs freed up from EWR will move to CLE.



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User currently offlineHighliner2 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2350 times:

Wow. Ohio should just change it's state bird to the RJ between CVG and CLE, the 2 RJ capitals of the world...


Go Cubs!
User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Quoting Highliner2 (Reply 12):
Wow. Ohio should just change it's state bird to the RJ between CVG and CLE, the 2 RJ capitals of the world...

Don't forget Columbus with the MQ and Chautauqua MX bases... there's a ton of RJs roaming the ramp...



Why do I fly???
User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 11):
Those ERJs freed up from EWR will move to CLE.

What CO hasn't mentioned: The string of $10 and $20 fare increases and less aggressive discounting over the past couple of years have made the RJ's profitable again on most CLE routes, as many fares approach 50 cents/seat-mile - even BWI is over 30 cents in competition with WN.



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2112 times:

Quoting CLE757 (Reply 9):
ORD
DFW

In spite of the 752 that UA sneaks in to CLE, I wouldn't hold my breath on either of these. ORD is mostly RJs from all three carriers now, and DFW is exclusively MQ in spite of the fact that the hubs at ORD and DFW are far stronger than is CLE.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 15):
ORD is mostly RJs from all three carriers now,

I think the airlines often use RJ's on fairly short routes like CLE-ORD as placeholders, so they aren't at risk of losing slots if the government ever gets serious about managing flow.

In CO's case, they could replace 8 RJ's with fewer 737's and still offer a fairly decent service pattern and the same capacity. CO mainline and regional have 27 departures from ORD; if they scrapped 3 CLE flights and used 737's on the remaining 5 flights, they'd have an 11% ORD service reduction without harming their schedule much.



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 16):

I think the airlines often use RJ's on fairly short routes like CLE-ORD as placeholders, so they aren't at risk of losing slots if the government ever gets serious about managing flow.

CO doesn't play by the same rules as AA and UA at ORD. In all likelihood, they could add 5 flights tomorrow without the government batting an eye.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2091 times:

I guess I didn't explain well enough. (Or maybe you just don't agree.  Wink ) I think CO keeps their schedule up using RJ's so that, in the event that the government would impose some future slot reduction, they have some slots ready that they could easily give up.


I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 18):
I think CO keeps their schedule up using RJ's so that, in the event that the government would impose some future slot reduction, they have some slots ready that they could easily give up.

But true slot restrictions would take an act of Congress, so it's not like CO wouldn't know they are coming (and, presumably, ramp up flights).



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