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South Africa Grounds All 732's  
User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6629 times:

A directive by South African Civil Aviation Authority has grounded all Boeing 737-200 in the country, until engine mountings are inspected on each and every aircraft of the type.

The grounding follows the CE incident in CPT where an engine separated from the wing on departure.

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_A...a/News/0,,2-7-1442_2218730,00.html


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12475 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6602 times:

So, what has Nationwide still got in its domestic fleet? 727s?

User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6596 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):
So, what has Nationwide still got in its domestic fleet? 727s?

A few left... and two 737-500s



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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6458 times:

SAA still have 732s?

User currently offlineFlymad From South Africa, joined Jun 2006, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6442 times:

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 3):
SAA still have 732s?

AFAIK only cargo birds


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6374 times:
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Not sure when the grounding will come into effect, I saw 732s going out of JNB all day, as well as MDs and DC-9s.

Here's the CAA directive:

http://www.caa.co.za/Emegerncy_AD.pdf



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User currently offlineFlymad From South Africa, joined Jun 2006, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6067 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 5):
Not sure when the grounding will come into effect, I saw 732s going out of JNB all day, as well as MDs and DC-9s.

Here's the CAA directive:

http://www.caa.co.za/Emegerncy_AD.pdf

Seems MD's and DC-9's are no longer affected?


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6062 times:

So, is this just for RSA-registered 732's, or all 732's currently sitting inside the borders?

User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 79
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5926 times:

Quoting SW733 (Reply 7):
So, is this just for RSA-registered 732's, or all 732's currently sitting inside the borders?

AD's normally only apply to airplanes under the registry of the body issuing the AD.

Tom.


User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5723 times:

How is Nationwide being affected by this? Obviously a lot of problems right?


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User currently offlineA390 From South Africa, joined Sep 2005, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5275 times:

Yesterday I saw Nationwide a/c operating as normal at JNB.

User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4643 times:

Going by the link provided by Andz it would seem that anything powered by JT8D engines will be subject to the AD, but the PDF in the link doesn't say when it will take effect, its more of a warning that there will be an AD soon. Possibly giving the operators enough time to inspect enough of their fleets ahead of time to avoid transportation meltdown?
As an aside, I thought that I read earlier on in this incident that someone said the engine fell off after the TR deployed while at a high thrust setting and that is what may have caused the separation? If this is a possible cause I would hope that the AD will be expanded to includeall control systems to the engine and TRs as well as just the mounting bolts.
But perhaps my memory is failing me as regards the TR deployment?

[Edited 2007-11-11 03:40:57]


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User currently offlineMQTmxguy From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3426 times:

After reading the AD provided, the actual AD is applicable only to JT8D powered 732 series A/C. At the top is simply a letter from the South African CAA warning 727 and DC9 operators that there WILL be an AD applicable to thier JT8 powered A/C.

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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3402 times:

Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 8):
AD's normally only apply to airplanes under the registry of the body issuing the AD.

That's what I figured, but just wanted to make sure. I had visions of my precious Air Namibia being hurt  Wink

Hope this all gets sorted out soon!


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

Seems a drastic step. those 732s are sturdy and important in South African transport. Hope this gets sorted and soon as I think the 732 can carry on providing reliable operation for a long time. Aloha shares this opinion!!!

User currently offlineStickers From South Africa, joined Sep 2007, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Nothing on the website indictaing that they will be changing business in anyway over the next few days.
Must say, that they are a great airline.


User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2856 times:

I'm booked to fly PLZ-CPT with Nationwide next month and it's normally a 732, although I was hoping that they would sub it for the 727 !!.

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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

Looks like there were effects after all... Various flights were delayed at the weekend, some by several hours, after a flying ban on 30 Boeing 737 jets across South Africa.

But, it looks as though things will improve soon... http://www.news24.com/News24/South_A...a/News/0,,2-7-1442_2219464,00.html



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User currently offlineFlymad From South Africa, joined Jun 2006, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2627 times:

Quoting A390 (Reply 10):
Yesterday I saw Nationwide a/c operating as normal at JNB.

According to media reports, initial visual inspections to all 732's had to be done to allow a/c's to fly over the weekend. Full inspection reports had to be completed and submitted to CAA by toady (Monday) failing which a/c's will be grounded.


User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4162 posts, RR: 89
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2604 times:
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Nationwide have had 7 frames cleared to operate and Comair 4 after being inspected. They are free to fly those frames anytime now.


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User currently offlineORDagent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Does South Africa require hushkits on these antiques? With oil hitting $100.00 bucks a barrell how much longer can they carry on?

User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

Quoting ORDagent (Reply 20):
Does South Africa require hushkits on these antiques?

No.



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User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2301 times:

I have a DVD about Nationwide that I think was produced in 2003 and in it they say their 737-200 fleet are stage 2 compliant and that they figured by 2007 they would all be stage 3 compliant. Whether that happened I have no idea and I would assume that they had stage 2 compliance only because most other places in the world required it prior to them aquiring the aircraft.


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User currently offlineDBCC From Switzerland, joined Nov 2007, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Here are the photos of the plane and engine after the incident.

Big version: Width: 855 Height: 642 File size: 107kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - Engine

Big version: Width: 778 Height: 583 File size: 65kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - Leading Edge

Big version: Width: 800 Height: 491 File size: 87kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - Engine Mount

Big version: Width: 601 Height: 800 File size: 102kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - Wing Front

Big version: Width: 583 Height: 778 File size: 66kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - Wing

Big version: Width: 778 Height: 583 File size: 87kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - # 2 donkey is gone


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

I flew on SAA 732, great bird.
JNB is 732 paradise. But except CE , there is no other SA carrier flying them.


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 25, posted (6 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1988 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 24):
But except CE , there is no other SA carrier flying them

Pardon me, i forgot that BA/Comair and Kulula also flies 732.


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