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Ban On IL 86 In Swiss Airspace  
User currently offlineTeahan From Virgin Islands (British), joined Nov 1999, 5198 posts, RR: 72
Posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 260 times:

The IL 86 has been banned from flying in Swiss Airspace and landing at Swiss airports by the Swiss Aviation Addministration (OFAC). Random checks were carried out on an Aeroflot (SU) IL86 at Geneva Airport (GVA). The Aeroflot IL86 did not have a Collision Avoidance System (or it wan't working)

The IL86 is a quite frequent visitor to GVA with the many ski charters from Russia operated by both Aeroflot and Atlant-Soyouz.

The ban will start next week. Aeroflot has been given 1 weel to sort out the problem.

BTW GVA broke it's passenger record on Saturday the 6th of January with 44 000 passengers in one day.  

Kind Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
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User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States, joined May 1999, 863 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 237 times:

Why would you ban one type of aircraft if it was only one particular airline that was not up to date on it's systems. Are the Swiss making the assumption that all Il86 are deficient of these systems.

Boeing727

User currently offlineSashA From Russia, joined May 1999, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 211 times:

It's ironic how they banned one of the safest by the record widebody aircraft. Not that it flied as much as other counterparts, but still...

Aeroflot should put another aircraft on the route, like A310.


An2/24/28,Yak42,Tu154/134,IL18/62/96,B737/757/767,A310/320/319,F100,BAe146
User currently offlineKUGN From United States, joined Jul 2000, 614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 202 times:

No proble there, Russians will put those faulty IL86s on domestic routes where Swiss authorities will not be able to inspect them.

Often JAA has found problems with aircraft logbooks from CIS. I bet this was not the single problem that Swiss have found out.

Sadly, low maintenence and poor documentation is still present among many CIS airlines.


User currently offlineSashA From Russia, joined May 1999, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 195 times:

I suspect that all this "CIS planes are poorly maintaned" thing roots in the very mentality of people who live in countries concerned, i.e. ex-USSR. They too often seem to think that God will spare them and don't devote that much attention to safety.

I don't see the situation improving in near or even "medium-range" future.  


An2/24/28,Yak42,Tu154/134,IL18/62/96,B737/757/767,A310/320/319,F100,BAe146
User currently offlineDesmidus From United States, joined Jan 2001, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 190 times:

Or the "It's not my problem" mentality of the communist era.

User currently offlineTeahan From Virgin Islands (British), joined Nov 1999, 5198 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 184 times:

Hey,

Geneva has a daily Aeroflot Airbus A310 service.

It is just the ski charters that are operated with IL 86s. Up to 3 of them can arrive on one Saturday!

Kind Regards,
Jeremiah Teahan


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
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