Falcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1294 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2177 times:
All eff. 03/08/08. FLL-MHT, DAL-HRL, MCO-OMA/SLC/OKC/TUL, RNO-ONT, SLC-SAN. Anyone surprised by FLL-MHT ?
There is also a chart of additional sat. only service on current flights listed here:
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4114 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2142 times:
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RNO-ONT?
HRL-DAL?!
Wow, very interesting. I wonder if some of these are testing waters?
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 23 Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1960 times:
B757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1244 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1960 times:
OMA-MCO
I always wondered why they didn't operate this route
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Falcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1294 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1854 times:
Quoting Ssides (Reply 2): Probably so on HRL-DAL. I've always wondered why WN didn't fly nonstop DAL-HRL and DAL-CRP, so we'll see if they can make this work.
Ditto. You'd think they could have at least one daily n/s in those markets.
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Not really. They used to operate this every winter on Saturdays during the early-00's. MCO-OMA and MCO-OKC aren't new either, IIRC, they just haven't operated in recent years.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4746 posts, RR: 15 Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1803 times:
Quoting Iowaman (Reply 1): Wow, very interesting. I wonder if some of these are testing waters?
Even tho they say the purpose is not "testing the waters", I still can't help but think that if a Sat-only flight does very well in attracting pax, it could very well show up as a daily/multi-frequency flight eventually...
I remember a year or two ago when they still used to announce Sat-only flights in their New Service PRs; of course there were only a handful at a time and I'm sure they were "test" flights for sure back then.
The SAN-SLC (Sat only) route used to be served by WN years ago as well -- and by Morris prior to the takeover. And I do think that this route will become 4-5x daily perhaps next year...
I also predict that the (published) WN Flight Schedule, available at airports everywhere, starting in March, is going to become half-again bigger because of all these additional Saturday schedules, and that they will (again) discontinue printing them due to the increased costs involved.
Flight209 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
Wow, very interesting. I wonder if some of these are testing waters?
Probably so on HRL-DAL. I've always wondered why WN didn't fly nonstop DAL-HRL and DAL-CRP, so we'll see if they can make this work.
WN had Saturday-only DAL-HRL service back in the mid-'90s. Why WN decided to start the route in the first place, why the route got discontinued, and why WN is giving it another chance are all quite puzzling to me. Could it then have been, and could it now be, just a seasonal flight; i.e. a cheap and fast way for North Texans to "beat the winter blues" and bask in the sun of South Padre?
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SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6108 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1721 times:
Quoting Ssides (Reply 2): I've always wondered why WN didn't fly nonstop DAL-HRL and DAL-CRP, so we'll see if they can make this work.
I put my vote in agreement with this too...always shocked me. I could never believe there was anywhere in Texas not served nonstop from BOTH DAL and HOU, but especially DAL, being home and all.
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 23 Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1640 times:
Quoting SW733 (Reply 8): I put my vote in agreement with this too...always shocked me. I could never believe there was anywhere in Texas not served nonstop from BOTH DAL and HOU, but especially DAL, being home and all.
I'm sure part of it has to do with the Wright Amendment. When Wright was at its most restrictive, the Valley and CRP had service to DFW and IAH on AA and CO (in many cases mainline), with the ability to connect to destinations worldwide. WN simply couldn't offer this. I'm sure that the opening up of new destinations from DAL played a role in this, just as it did in flights such as AMA-DEN.
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3819 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1576 times:
Southwest service at MHT roughly lags, then mirrors, service at PVD. The appearance of PVD-FLL was a very good sign that MHT-FLL would come along. I think it's a virtual certainty that MHT-FLL goes daily once a plane frees up to do the duty. It's by no means a demand issue because there's no other service to eastern Florida aside from this one flight.
What does surprise me is a 6th MHT-MCO circuit on Saturdays. I was thinking that FIVE daily flights on this route were too many, but evidently Southwest sees data that proves me wrong.
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6373 posts, RR: 34 Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1501 times:
Well, virtually all of the HRL and CRP flights to HOU continue on to DAL with no change of plane needed. They've probably been doing that for the better part of the last 30 years, and it's basically the sort of milk run strategy that they successfully used for many years to be able to serve smaller markets with good frequencies and 737-sized aircraft. While you can probably justify two or three HRL-DAL non-stops based on O&D and connecting traffic, for example, WN offers 12 weekday one-stop flights between HRL and DAL. By giving up a 25 minute stop in HOU, SAT, or AUS, the passenger gains a huge amount of schedule flexibility without the high seat-mile costs of an ERJ.
Super80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1642 posts, RR: 11 Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1343 times:
Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 12): OKC-Florida has yet to stick with any airline. We'll see how it goes.
Whats funny is that Comair flew this route daily to MCO from OKC in 2005. It wasn't around long. Sure, I move away from Oklahoma and they start getting awesome airline service. Well, I'm 25 NE of DFW so its not a long drive. Tomorrow morning actually, I'm taking my dad to DFW at 4:30a for a 6:30a flight to DEN.
Right now there is an AA MD-80 flying over my house.
BooDog From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 253 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1195 times:
SW flew DAL-HRL non-stop from 1975-1985, 1999-2001.
MCO-OKC was operated starting in 2003, I don't know when it stopped.
Mcamargo From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 129 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1110 times:
Quoting Falcon flyer (Reply 4): Ditto. You'd think they could have at least one daily n/s in those markets.
I agree on that comment. But right now I believe every flight out of HRL (either to HOU/SAT/AUS) is a direct flight to DAL... correct me if i'm wrong.
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