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User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1323 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

All eff. 03/08/08. FLL-MHT, DAL-HRL, MCO-OMA/SLC/OKC/TUL, RNO-ONT, SLC-SAN. Anyone surprised by FLL-MHT ?
There is also a chart of additional sat. only service on current flights listed here:

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_...wSaturdayServiceRelease_110907.pdf


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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4384 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2675 times:
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RNO-ONT?
HRL-DAL?!

Wow, very interesting. I wonder if some of these are testing waters?



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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 1):
HRL-DAL?!

Wow, very interesting. I wonder if some of these are testing waters?

Probably so on HRL-DAL. I've always wondered why WN didn't fly nonstop DAL-HRL and DAL-CRP, so we'll see if they can make this work.



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User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

OMA-MCO
I always wondered why they didn't operate this route



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User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 2):
Probably so on HRL-DAL. I've always wondered why WN didn't fly nonstop DAL-HRL and DAL-CRP, so we'll see if they can make this work.

Ditto. You'd think they could have at least one daily n/s in those markets.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32703 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

Quoting Falcon flyer (Thread starter):
Anyone surprised by FLL-MHT ?

Not really. They used to operate this every winter on Saturdays during the early-00's. MCO-OMA and MCO-OKC aren't new either, IIRC, they just haven't operated in recent years.



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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5400 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 1):
Wow, very interesting. I wonder if some of these are testing waters?

Even tho they say the purpose is not "testing the waters", I still can't help but think that if a Sat-only flight does very well in attracting pax, it could very well show up as a daily/multi-frequency flight eventually...

I remember a year or two ago when they still used to announce Sat-only flights in their New Service PRs; of course there were only a handful at a time and I'm sure they were "test" flights for sure back then.

The SAN-SLC (Sat only) route used to be served by WN years ago as well -- and by Morris prior to the takeover. And I do think that this route will become 4-5x daily perhaps next year...

I also predict that the (published) WN Flight Schedule, available at airports everywhere, starting in March, is going to become half-again bigger because of all these additional Saturday schedules, and that they will (again) discontinue printing them due to the increased costs involved.

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User currently offlineFlight209 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 2):
Quoting Iowaman (Reply 1):
HRL-DAL?!

Wow, very interesting. I wonder if some of these are testing waters?

Probably so on HRL-DAL. I've always wondered why WN didn't fly nonstop DAL-HRL and DAL-CRP, so we'll see if they can make this work.

WN had Saturday-only DAL-HRL service back in the mid-'90s. Why WN decided to start the route in the first place, why the route got discontinued, and why WN is giving it another chance are all quite puzzling to me. Could it then have been, and could it now be, just a seasonal flight; i.e. a cheap and fast way for North Texans to "beat the winter blues" and bask in the sun of South Padre?



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6318 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2254 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 2):
I've always wondered why WN didn't fly nonstop DAL-HRL and DAL-CRP, so we'll see if they can make this work.

I put my vote in agreement with this too...always shocked me. I could never believe there was anywhere in Texas not served nonstop from BOTH DAL and HOU, but especially DAL, being home and all.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

Quoting SW733 (Reply 8):
I put my vote in agreement with this too...always shocked me. I could never believe there was anywhere in Texas not served nonstop from BOTH DAL and HOU, but especially DAL, being home and all.

I'm sure part of it has to do with the Wright Amendment. When Wright was at its most restrictive, the Valley and CRP had service to DFW and IAH on AA and CO (in many cases mainline), with the ability to connect to destinations worldwide. WN simply couldn't offer this. I'm sure that the opening up of new destinations from DAL played a role in this, just as it did in flights such as AMA-DEN.



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

Southwest service at MHT roughly lags, then mirrors, service at PVD. The appearance of PVD-FLL was a very good sign that MHT-FLL would come along. I think it's a virtual certainty that MHT-FLL goes daily once a plane frees up to do the duty. It's by no means a demand issue because there's no other service to eastern Florida aside from this one flight.

What does surprise me is a 6th MHT-MCO circuit on Saturdays. I was thinking that FIVE daily flights on this route were too many, but evidently Southwest sees data that proves me wrong.

Chris in NH


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6745 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

Quoting Falcon flyer (Thread starter):
Anyone surprised by FLL-MHT ?

The only thing surprising about FLL-MHT is that it wasn't added as a daily flight years ago.

Quoting Ssides (Reply 2):
I've always wondered why WN didn't fly nonstop DAL-HRL and DAL-CRP

Well, virtually all of the HRL and CRP flights to HOU continue on to DAL with no change of plane needed. They've probably been doing that for the better part of the last 30 years, and it's basically the sort of milk run strategy that they successfully used for many years to be able to serve smaller markets with good frequencies and 737-sized aircraft. While you can probably justify two or three HRL-DAL non-stops based on O&D and connecting traffic, for example, WN offers 12 weekday one-stop flights between HRL and DAL. By giving up a 25 minute stop in HOU, SAT, or AUS, the passenger gains a huge amount of schedule flexibility without the high seat-mile costs of an ERJ.


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4581 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
MCO-OMA and MCO-OKC aren't new either, IIRC, they just haven't operated in recent years.

OKC-Florida has yet to stick with any airline. We'll see how it goes.


User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1692 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 12):
OKC-Florida has yet to stick with any airline. We'll see how it goes.

Whats funny is that Comair flew this route daily to MCO from OKC in 2005. It wasn't around long. Sure, I move away from Oklahoma and they start getting awesome airline service. Well, I'm 25 NE of DFW so its not a long drive. Tomorrow morning actually, I'm taking my dad to DFW at 4:30a for a 6:30a flight to DEN.



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User currently offlineBooDog From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

SW flew DAL-HRL non-stop from 1975-1985, 1999-2001.

MCO-OKC was operated starting in 2003, I don't know when it stopped.



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User currently offlineMcamargo From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1643 times:



Quoting Falcon flyer (Reply 4):
Ditto. You'd think they could have at least one daily n/s in those markets.

I agree on that comment. But right now I believe every flight out of HRL (either to HOU/SAT/AUS) is a direct flight to DAL... correct me if i'm wrong.



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