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Irish Aviation's 50th....Take Two....  
User currently offlineThrottleHold From South Africa, joined Jul 2006, 658 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4976 times:

2 hours, and no-one has started the 50th thread?....

[Edited 2007-11-12 09:01:57]

222 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17078 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4965 times:

Quoting ThrottleHold (Thread starter):
2 hours, and no-one has started the 50th thread?....

We actually wait on Kaitak so start the thread.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27100 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4963 times:

Hi there thanks for starting. I was going to but thought Kaitak may have started one by now . Anyway great to be onto thread number 50 !!!

I wonder how things have been going down on Pier D ???http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/96373/?threadid=96373&searchid=96373&s=sata#ID96373


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4957 times:

Great to see Pier D up and running, it's going to be a huge improvement.

Video:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1112/airport_av.html?2307973,null,230


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27100 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4957 times:

B747forever that link is for you !!!

User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4192 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4939 times:

Had a look at Pier D today.

First impressions: very spacious, more so than anywhere in the airport!

Very bright and airy, high ceilings, loads of room, but a little bit clinical and lacking in colour. You can also see a bit of a resemblance to pier C, but without the carpets and trimmings, and its much wider.

I have three snaps to post, but thanks to the this site still acting up, no luck im afraid.. i can send them to anyone interested, just PM me.



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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17078 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4926 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
B747forever that link is for you !!!

Great will read it soon.

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 6):
First impressions: very spacious, more so than anywhere in the airport!

That is really good impression. So they have succeeded to build a great Pier.

Would nice to see the pics.



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12513 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4915 times:

Thanks for setting up our 50th thread, Throttle Hold!

Actually, 747 Forever, anyone can set up an Irish thread - it will be your turn some day! I have just set up a Singapore Aviation thread, so it's not exclusive. We have a nice little global village here at A.net!

Actually, I'm just out of the office out of work, so I was sorry to see that No. 49 was cut short; let's make sure it doesn't happen again this time!

Glad to see Pier D open at last and looking forward to using it. Actually, a friend of mine, a 738 FO with FR, was in DUB a few days ago and he was saying that it's become incredibly busy; he was based there, on 732s, when he first qualified, but even in those few years it's really got a lot busier. With all the apron works and Notams which probably change daily with new construction projects, it must be quite a handful. It's hard to reconcile my home airport with the airport I grew up with as a teenager in the mid 1980s, when DUB was handling about 2.5m ppa.

Let's hope the growth continues. As I said on the last thread, the key for many airlines (like bmi) seems to be emerging markets and for this, we're on the wrong side of Europe. Sod's law, when you think about it - when Open Skies finally comes around, the US market is weak; we need (a) to develop Asian markets and (b) to ensure our infrastructure can support that growth. It's great to see SQ Cargo and EY, but let's hope EK gives us the green light (they've just spent $30b on new airliners, so they can hardly say they're worried about early start-up losses at DUB, although I doubt if even that will happen).

I'm coming home on Thursday evening, from LGW with EI and weather permitting, I'm hoping to be at the aeropuerto on Saturday, so maybe I'll see some of you out there!


User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17078 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 7):
Actually, 747 Forever, anyone can set up an Irish thread

Okey I see.

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 7):
it will be your turn some day

That day will be a memorable day for me. Hope soon I can make a Irish thread. That would be a honour.

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 7):
we need (a) to develop Asian markets and

That is one of the main factors for the weak U.S market.

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 7):
but let's hope EK gives us the green light

Everyone here wait on EK to start to serve DUB. Really hope they can do it soon.



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User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4192 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4872 times:

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 7):
Let's hope the growth continues. As I said on the last thread, the key for many airlines (like bmi) seems to be emerging markets and for this, we're on the wrong side of Europe

Indeed Kaitak, you alluded to your thoughts on the economy earlier. I have to say I dont personally agree with the doom-mongers: house price drops etc had to happen, it was geting way out of hand and the years of double digit growth couldnt go on for ever. We are just "normalising" as a wealthy nation now I feel. Of course, such logic wont stop us Irish getting all worked about impending "economic collapse". We have to have something to complain about: its just how we are!  

Or, perhaps, im just trying to delude myself into thinking that my current spending habits can continue..  Wink

Anyway, yes, its high time now that the DAA/CAA/SAA and everyone involved realised that they need to get out there and chase new business: when the economy slows (note I say "slows" and not "goes into recession") the DAA/ Govt cant expect the growth to just to just come our way as it has done of late. At least the signs are promising with Pier D, new Runway and new terminal on the way. But, as ever, we need more!

[Edited 2007-11-12 09:59:42]


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User currently offlineAC747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4861 times:

Howdy!
Just back from Stansted on FR. Didn't get to use Pier D this morning, but what the hey. Certainly can't fault FR on their service - on time and no hassle. Had priority boarding, so was first on in both airports! It's been a long time since I used Stansted and it was a real easy option.
Anyway, back to YVR tomorrow on BA through LHR.
Thanks for the help on the last thread regarding my flight today.
Cheers !



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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17078 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4847 times:

Quoting AC747 (Reply 10):
Anyway, back to YVR tomorrow on BA through LHR.

Hope you will have a good flight to YVR. Writing any TR???



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User currently offlineF1eddie From Ireland, joined May 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4824 times:

hey guys. Only found this now. God the last one came to an abrupt end. Oh well. Did any of ye see on the six one news. EI are going to strike again starting next tuesday and will be rolling. Think the next one is scheduled for thursday. Think it is over the pay freeze but I'm not sure. No links yet but im sure they will be there soon!!!!


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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4822 times:

Quote:
Industrial action notice at Aer Lingus

Monday, 12 November 2007 18:10
A spokesman for Aer Lingus has said the company is surprised at what it called an 'unnecessary and unhelpful development' from SIPTU.

SIPTU this evening said it is activating notice of industrial action on Tuesday and Friday of next week at Dublin, Shannon and Cork airports.

The spokesman said Aer Lingus will not tolerate any action which puts customers and services at risk.

He added the matter is before the National Implementation Body and said it is surprising any action would be taken by SIPTU in light of this.

http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/1112/aerlingus.html

Quote:
BA increases fuel surcharge
BA customers now face an increase from £4 to £20 on return short-haul flights, £30 to £116 on long-haul return flights of more than nine hours and £20 to £96 on long-haul return flights of less than nine hours.

http://itn.co.uk/news/045edb752dfd08dbe7571c9a1640bdf0.html


User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17078 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4815 times:

Quoting F1eddie (Reply 12):
EI are going to strike again starting next tuesday and will be rolling

Oh no. This is not good at all. Hope they ´wont be like Alitalia.



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User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4192 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4808 times:

Is it just me or is everyone getting a bit sick of this constant threat of industrial action? what is so insurmountable at EI that both sides cant seem to get it together and speak to each other?

Possibly it is time to stop booking with them until they both cop on and realise that the airline is there to provide a service to people who pay good money to fly with them.

I saw the pilots point last time, I know the staff are pi**ed off for all kinds of reasons, but really, its getting a bit ridiculous now.

Is it time to ditch the management, or do staff need to shoulder some blame here as well?

If i cant rely on the service, then my travel money goes elsewhere. Sorry, but enough is enough. (My money wont be going to FR by the way: dont worry, I havent gone soft..)



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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17078 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4794 times:

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 15):

Remember when I felt exactly as you when SAS had strike problem.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27100 posts, RR: 60
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4784 times:

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 9):
Indeed Kaitak, you alluded to your thoughts on the economy earlier. I have to say I dont personally agree with the doom-mongers: house price drops etc had to happen,

Yes things have to do a down turn soon. Oil will hit $150-$180 a barrel next year according to some and if things with Iran get worse then it could seal off the Persian Gulf. Also everyone on this Island seems to be living off credit and loans!!! The worst case scenario it becomes like the time in the UK when repossessions of houses were happening every minute. I hear of the mortgages that people have these days and I dont know how they cope. I wouldn't sleep at night.

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 15):
Is it just me or is everyone getting a bit sick of this constant threat of industrial action? what is so insurmountable at EI that both sides cant seem to get it together and speak to each other?

Hmm shame if it goes ahead. Hopefully they can sort it out before it happens otherwise we will have a winter of discontent.


User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4192 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4768 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
I hear of the mortgages that people have these days and I dont know how they cope. I wouldn't sleep at night.

Indeed, anyone who took on a 100% mortgage must be worried. Thankfully, im not one of those people, and have lived within my means. The banks though, are partly culpable with this by even introducing a 100% mortgage. They must surely have seen this coming.



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User currently offlineF1eddie From Ireland, joined May 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4763 times:

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 9):
Anyway, yes, its high time now that the DAA/CAA/SAA and everyone involved realised that they need to get out there and chase new business: when the economy slows (note I say "slows" and not "goes into recession") the DAA/ Govt cant expect the growth to just to just come our way as it has done of late. At least the signs are promising with Pier D, new Runway and new terminal on the way. But, as ever, we need more!

Oh i forgot to say that the DAA had an advert in the Sunday Business Post. Ill take a photo of it and ill post it later

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 15):
Is it just me or is everyone getting a bit sick of this constant threat of industrial action?

Yup I'm getting board of all these strikes. Can they not just be so stubborn and work with each other??



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User currently offlineF1eddie From Ireland, joined May 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4751 times:

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 18):
Indeed, anyone who took on a 100% mortgage must be worried. Thankfully, im not one of those people, and have lived within my means. The banks though, are partly culpable with this by even introducing a 100% mortgage. They must surely have seen this coming.

Im hopefully going to be one of those soon so i want the property market to go down!!! But i dont think it will drop much more so i think its a great time to buy. Im not going to sit around untill next year when everything balances out and i lose a very vital card which i can currently play.... No one is buying so here is what i am willing to pay!!! Oh also living at home and renting out my purchase for three more years will help very much ease the burden!!!!



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27100 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4746 times:

LTU / Slatterys have slapped on a EUR 92 Fuel surcharge onto its DUB-CPT flights with immediate effect!!!

S4 have announced resumption of DUB-PDL flights from May next year. Im really happy about that as I loved my trip there this year and would love to go back.

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On another note be careful when sending things at the moment with An Post!!! I had a mate who sent me EUR100 worth of vouchers and he sent it registered. When I got the envelope it had been tampered with and when I opened it the vouchers were missing!! You can imagine how upset I was. Lucky I can claim off An Post but for a registered item its bad form. Apparently it happens quite often according to the guy in customer services.


User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17078 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4740 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 21):
S4 have announced resumption of DUB-PDL flights from May next year

For how long will they serve DUB from PDL?? Until September??



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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3922 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4737 times:

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 9):
have to say I dont personally agree with the doom-mongers: house price drops etc had to happen, it was geting way out of hand and the years of double digit growth couldnt go on for ever. We are just "normalising" as a wealthy nation now I feel. Of course, such logic wont stop us Irish getting all worked about impending "economic collapse".

I agree with you to some extent, say what we will about teh current government, but they have built a diverse economy, built around high value products and services, of which demand will not fluccuate too much with economic variations. I am thinking of pharma in perticular.
The other advantage which will help to prop up the economy is the relative distain we have for unsecured credit. I partly attribute this to the governmnet stamp duty and the love the Irish have for the cheque, and more so, cash. In the UK the card is used for any transaction greater than £5, not so much in Ireland. Look at my overdraf allowance for example, I was pre approved for £1250 where in Ireland I would get €500, and student loans are "automatic" here, to the tune of at least 4K/year.

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 15):
Possibly it is time to stop booking with them until they both cop on and realise that the airline is there to provide a service to people who pay good money to fly with them.

Well said sir.

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 15):
(My money wont be going to FR by the way: dont worry, I havent gone soft..)

To be fair to FR, they are among the least likely to ever have a strike called upon them. FR might not be a nice company, but I honestly think this thread portrays FR as some sort of delay prone third airline. When all goes to plan FR is great, you get where you want to go, on time, for a realtively low fare. Now when things go wrong.....its time to get out the crash helmet. I dont like FR, but at the end of the day what do EI give me for £65 more? An assigned seat is about it. For a short hop to DUB I think I can live without recline and yellow overhead bins. People might put up with MOL/FR bull when they run on time, but if FR were constantly late then people would choose U2, etc, at lest not 22.1 million times a year!

Brian.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27100 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4730 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 22):
For how long will they serve DUB from PDL?? Until September??

Yes just for the Summer. Nice to see it again. Sunway Travel have taken allocation to offer packages.


25 Tonymctigue : Hopefully this will be the first of many badly needed improvements to come over the next few years. I can't wait to see it. I will be flying the new
26 B747forever : okey. But if it really makes good for SATA, can we see them operate this in the winter months too???
27 Post contains images Shamrock604 : I agree. They are on-time, reliable and all that jazz. I just dont like them. If you check in on-line, one hour is plenty. Straight through the domes
28 Post contains links Tonymctigue : I have to agree with you Brian. If FR were constantly late & treating people like crap all the time then they wouldn't have grown to be Europe's larg
29 OA260 : " target=_blank>http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....81107 Yes I saw that. There is also a thread on it. As I said there , ''whats new'' they always
30 Post contains images B747forever : Okey, I see. Really nice that you like us Scandinavian.
31 OA260 : Yes I have alot of respect for you guys !!! I have always met polite and decent people from the Scandinavian countries. Also your English puts even E
32 Post contains images B747forever : That is great. And since I have been here around I really like Irish people more and more. Hope you wont meet the bad ones. Why dont you make a visit
33 Tonymctigue : Thanks for the info. My flight is at 18:55. I am really looking forward to seeing how the loads are because really do want to see a SNN-DUB service s
34 EISHN : Very well put. If DM can get the cost cuts needed in a short period of time, then he's had a success in that manner, although I still think he has ma
35 OA260 : Yes its on my list eventually . But only in Summer!!! I hate the cold LOL.....
36 Tonymctigue : Yes that decor in SNN is quite unique & I do have fond memories. The carpets, the chairs, the zig-zag ceiling, the fake marbel floors, that yellow li
37 AC747 : Have to agree with this based on my experience with them today. Flights on time, the planes were clean and the cabin staff smiled (was I just lucky o
38 EI350 : Haha that was my exact feeling last year when we stopped there on our way to NY. It was a feeling of "OMG I can't believe they make US tourists stop
39 B747forever : Yepp, the best time to visit Sweden is during the summers. Winter are so cold.
40 BestWestern : Summer in Stockholm is pure perfect - who needs Malaga, when you have wonderful islands, warm evenings, and cold beer. Nothing more confusing than lea
41 OA260 : Yes its hard to get used to so bright nights. I did a cruise to the Norwegian Fjords and it was weird that it was like day at 11pm when I wanted to s
42 Bx737 : Shame to see that EI is at the brink of strike........again. There is a lack of trust between both sides in EI. Management regard the staff as a cost
43 BrianDromey : This is the problem SNN has. Semental. In this day and age what room is there for sentamentality? Either an airport has enough traffic to keep it via
44 Shamrock604 : Yes, it is quite mundane, and it could do with brightening up, but there is lovely feeling of calm in the place, due to the spaciousness. It reminds
45 Tonymctigue : Yes Brian, I do agree with you & in order to get SNN to catch up, it will take some really imaginative people to come up with creative solutions to t
46 B747forever : That is true. Stockholm is a really great city. I really love the bright nights. But sometimes they can be confusing.
47 Shamrock604 : And that's the big problem with so called "irish airport policy". Every other airport is so small that it can never compete with DUB... Ideally, one
48 Post contains links OA260 : Nuacht !!! --------------- http://www.independent.ie/national-n...orts-space-age-pier-d-1217746.html Dublin Airport's space age Pier D Finally some ro
49 B747forever : This not good. 30.000 pax are really much. I haven't seen any pics of the pier D that everyone says is a magnificent building. Does anyone of you hav
50 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus to talk with staff http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited...eds/afx/2007/11/13/afx4332947.html
51 B747forever : That is really good. Hope that EI can avoid this strike. The really dont need it.
52 Post contains images Smokeyrosco : It was late, it was suppose to open the end of September I hope EI try to engage directly with the staff in a decent manner so that both sides can se
53 EIBoston : Could not agree more! The constant threat of strikes are really going to hurt EI's credability in the long run. Customers are going to think twice ab
54 Tonymctigue : That is good. EI really do not need further strike action What an IR disaster EI is. At least this time, talks are taking place a couple of days befo
55 BrianDromey : I would point to the north of England at this point. Off the top of my head I can think of: Manchester; Liverpool, Leeds/Bradford, Nottingham/East Mi
56 Shamrock604 : Indeed Brian, and there is much to be said of the benefits of competition among airports, but i cant escape the feeling that on this small Island, wi
57 BestWestern : Poor start to SNN DUB on FR i hear from a dispatcher in Dublin, with sub 60 loads on most flights. With Day returns available from €13rtn inc al
58 Post contains links EISHN : Interesting TR here, with some nice pics of our dearly departed MSN054, EI-SHN. The cabin looks great after new seat covers and carpets were installed
59 Kaitak : Not just cheap, that's incredible! I do agree, though, it's unlikely to last. At that price, I could go down to SNN quite a bit and visit some friend
60 Post contains images Shamrock604 : Again, that great Curse of SNN... bad marketing! FR need to seriously plaster this all over the mid west. The schedule is good, the fares are good. U
61 EISHN : Might come for a day and do some spotting in the New Year. Maybe we could get a crowd? BTW- This fares are cheaper than taking the train to Houston s
62 Shamrock604 : Jaysus, thats not bad.. are you sure its only 17 return on the train? Edited to show that quick check on Irish rail website shows DUB-limerick at 25
63 EISHN : I thought it was €17. Guess not. Well, congrats to FR for having such an amazing low fare. Although, they aren't likely to win everyone over. If yo
64 Post contains images Shamrock604 : Yes it does, when you can get it. I have seen FR play around with the taxes on this one.. from charging just 9 euro tax in total, to charging up to 4
65 EISHN : True, true. Yes, but fi you consider the number of teenagers going to Dublin for a Saturday of shopping or whatever, they aren't very likely to deal
66 OA260 : The DUB-SNN fares are amazing compared what I paid on EI which was over EUR100!! EI should lower the fares and market a cheap fare. Sure they have to
67 Shamrock604 : Indeed, and those people will take the train. But the point I am making is that it may not need those passengers to do well. Additionally, you may al
68 Kaitak : Report from Dublin Airport Forum sugests that Iceland Express is to start a DUB-KEF service next year, 1-2 weekly.
69 Post contains images Shamrock604 : and about Bloody time..... Just wait for the FR retaliation though...
70 Tonymctigue : The fares are incredible. I got my full fares for the 7th of December coming back the 9th including checking one bag, at the airport check in & all t
71 EISHN : Well the way I look at it, EI just charge high fares to make a bit of cash out of while they're operating such a route with the A333. But, many peopl
72 Shamrock604 : Exactly Tony, I dont feel FR even market their other services from SNN very well. They could actually take a leaf from EI's book on this one to be ho
73 OA260 : HAHA lol...someone must have been listening to my cries . If it starts it is bound to be a winner !!!!
74 EISHN : Well they have ads plastered all around Shannon airport itself, including a billboard one on the way into the airport. They also run ads every week i
75 Shamrock604 : Dont know.. havent been to that part of the world in a while, but I do notice FR's newspaper ads tend to be boring black and white and hardly grab th
76 Tonymctigue : Nice new interesting detsination. Who on this forum only a day or two ago was mentioning they would love to go to Iceland? Well it looks like it just
77 Shamrock604 : Another good point, and if you think of it, come summer time, this route will be very handy for the droves of dubs who head to west clare for hols an
78 OA260 : Twas me LOL.....I will deffo be on that in augural !!! Blue Lagoon here I come lol.....
79 Tonymctigue : When I made that last post, I was thinking of the droves of Dubs you see hanging around Lahinch at the weekends during the cummer time. It is quite f
80 Post contains links and images EI350 : Brilliant news! Hope it's true!! I've always wanted to go to Iceland, with direct flights it would make a perfect short break   I just checked the I
81 OA260 : Thats a good sign !!! -------------------------------------------------------- I see that EI will put their maintanance contract worth EUR72 million
82 Tonymctigue : It only makes sense for Iceland to be linked with its closest neighbour with direct flights. now as someone said, wait for the FR retaliation. Do FR
83 OA260 : " target=_blank>http://www.icelandexpress.com/ Am I going crazy or have they started already !!!! Outbound flight: Dublin DUB - Reykjavik KEF Select
84 Irish251 : These flights look very like the annual series of weekend shopping flights bringing Icelanders to Dublin in the pre-Christmas period. The last few wee
85 OA260 : Yeah actually looking at the schedule again it looks like the Wallace Travel package . Still great to see. I must keep an eye out for any new service
86 Post contains links Tonymctigue : Looks like EI are playing hardball again by threatening suspensions. http://www.rte.ie/news/fullindex.html
87 EISHN : A letter from the Chief Executive of Aer Lingus, Dermot Mannion, to the company's employees. Re: SIPTU Notice of Industrial Action This letter is writ
88 BrianDromey : Im not too sure that there are too many bill boards within 10 miles from SNN,and evern fewer too look at them. FR should be advertising in GWY and Li
89 B747forever : That is really great news for DUB. Hope it will work for Iceland Express. Wow, that times are really odd. Think that Iceland Express will use the MD-
90 Tonymctigue : You frequently see FR ads for SNN & NOC services in the Galway Advertiser & in the Galway Independent. The DUB service is one though that I really do
91 Pilot21 : Morning Just an update to confirm EI have signed the order with Airbus for the new Long Haul Fleet. EI has firm orders on 6 A330-300E and 6 A350-900XW
92 Kaitak : Hi Pilot21, thanks for that info. Do you know when this was done?
93 BrianDromey : The thing is though, that ORK-DUB is a longer journey by train/road than SNN-DUB. The time savings from city-sentre to city-centre are in the region
94 Pilot21 : Hi Kaitak I don't have a date on the actual agreement, the information was released this morning by the Company in a Regulatory News Service statemen
95 Smokeyrosco : Like yourself OA260 and EI350 I've been wanting to visit Iceland for some time, I always figured someone would start up a direct service sooner or la
96 Bramble : Again the letters could have been a bit less hardline, a perhaps a bit more informative. The problem with EI letters is that they are full of great w
97 Post contains links OA260 : EU may close Ryanair site over pricing 'irregularities' http://www.independent.ie/national-n...ricing-irregularities-1218785.html --------------------
98 Post contains images EIDAA : At last.
99 OA260 : Yes I know I was thinking the same. It always was a stupid rule. One small backpack and one laptop bag is not unreasonable to take onto the plane.
100 AC747 : Going by passenger reports, these guys will be a very welcome addition at DUB. Any review I have read has been glowing. Plus assigned seating is alwa
101 Kaitak : There seems to be some mixed messages coming out of Whitehall (the London one, not the Garda station!) about this; RK says that restrictions will be
102 OA260 : Yes the news just said that they will ramp up security at train stations,airports,stadiums etc..... but the 1 bag rule will still be relaxed to 2 bag
103 B747forever : Wow, that is really not good. But it will be good for the aviation, because many of the train paxs has to fly to get to their destinations. Wow, that
104 OA260 : Hmmm ET look like they want to offer consol fares in the Irish market !!!! ''Ethiopian Airlines fares now available to sell from DUB 6 flights weekly
105 B747forever : So will ET fly with its own metal to DUB from LHR???
106 OA260 : No it will be BMI or EI to LHR then ET onwards. Its nice to see new unknown airlines to the Irish market coming in.
107 B747forever : Okey I see. Yes it is really nice, but it would be much better if ET flied to DUB with its own metal. It is really nice to see them here in ARN.
108 Smokeyrosco : This should be ready sooner as this is half completed already, not sure If we'll hear about this when it's finished from the DAA though, more likely
109 Smokeyrosco : Project Delivery New Coach Park 2006 Aircraft Parking Stands 2006/2009 Temporary Forward Lounge 2006 Ground Floor Check-In (Area 14) 2006 Pier D 2007
110 B747forever : When will they begin with the construction.???
111 BrianDromey : Interesting developments today. Personally, I dont see the advantage to anybody to being able to being two bags. I honestly think one bag is enough. W
112 OA260 : For me the 1 bag issue is a big one. I always carry a small backpack and my laptop bag and its not that heavy or big and they dont take up that much
113 BrianDromey : I used to have that problem, but I bought a 22" Tumi rollaboard. Its a great yoke. There is a pocket in front for my laptop (15" widescreen) and load
114 Smokeyrosco : Good question, the DAA has already begun construction on T2 apperently, Pier E will be much the same as Pier D except bigger apperently as for when c
115 Kaitak : For now maybe, but perhaps if this is successful, they will take it one step further and maybe extend one of their other European routes here. I know
116 OA260 : Yes it would be great. Ive always wanted to go on them . They do interesting stops and I think ARN-FCO they carry passengers. A DUB-LHR-ADB would be
117 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Ryanair claim, That no other airline matches Ryanair's low fares availability Ryanair's average fare of €44 is the lowest in Europe Ryanair is also
118 OA260 : Ok Shamrock350 , I will have your extra bag allowance LOL...... Nice Ad BTW . Has anyone heard anything about Air One looking at a DUB service??? I j
119 EISHN : What Ryanair forget to mention is that they don't include the price of the Credit Card or Debit Card booking fee. That's interesting, and good to hea
120 Post contains links Kaitak : I booked Flybe to fly home tomorrow night (JER-LGW with BE and on to Dublin with the home team) and frankly, I found BE horribly expensive; there are
121 B747forever : That is true. ET do ADB-FCO-ARN. Then why wont they do ADB-LHR-DUB.???
122 OA260 : You never know , something for the future maybe. The only thing is with flagship services like LHR airlines tend not to like adding on mini runs to s
123 B747forever : That is true. But if it really shows out that it is many pax from DUB that fly with ETs flight to ADB from LHR I think that they will start this serv
124 Kaitak : I think it's more likely to be the value of slots; if you have a spare slot, do you (a) add more flights to your home base, (b) lease/sell them to BA
125 EI787 : According to Jethros, DVG is due to arrive on November 28th, followed by DVH on December 17th.
126 Tonymctigue : I also frequently travel with a laptop & I did consider the wheelie bag like Brian is talking about but I never found anything suitable. They either
127 Kaitak : Thanks, EI787; I should have looked up that myself; I was looking up Flybe fleet changes on that site earlier on; d'oh!
128 Post contains links Tonymctigue : Did anyone see this one about the Quantas order? That is some amount of new planes, especially when they are combined with the new planes already on t
129 Post contains images EI787 : Oh Lord...you make the fatal mistake of misspelling Qantas..... .... I've seen the same mistake so many times!!!! It certainly would be nice to see..
130 Post contains images B747forever : That is a really interesting question. I really doubt that we can see QF in DUB in this forthcoming 10years. But maybe the market will change and in
131 Kaitak : I don't expect to see QF in Dublin; the best we can hope for is that Jetstar might start a service, once it starts European services in a year or two,
132 B747forever : You never know, the market can change really fast. But I still think that you have right.
133 OA260 : A mate of mine got me it as a present in TK Maxx lol.... I was suprised they did things like that. Anyway its like a Tardis , so many places to stash
134 Rojam : Here in London today while Eurostar are justly touting their new hi-speed-all-the-way Pancras to Paris so that one "never has to take the plane again"
135 OA260 : If I lived in London I wouldn't fly to Paris or Brussels now the train is quicker and alot of the time cheaper. I think the train will do well for jo
136 Shamrock350 : There's a fair amount of time left for Aer Lingus to advertise Heathrow-Belfast, I expected them to start earlier. The local papers always have an Aer
137 OA260 : Yes to be fair all airlines have been or are guilty of this so they all need to be sorted out. I would like to see handling fees and credit card fees
138 Bramble : Have to agree here. Maybe FR was the most cited or complained against but they all do it,so singling them out was a bit mean. Didn't realise that EI
139 Shamrocka330 : And you would be moaning if nothing was built! The only way EI can succeed is to deal with the people who are living in the past and the only people
140 OA260 : I think everyone will agree Pier D is an welcome change at Dublin Airport. We needed the extra gates and they are alot better than the pre fab of A g
141 OA260 : SIPTU has confirmed that it has applied to the Irish Congress of Trade Unions for an all-out picket on Aer Lingus. Yesterday, the airline threatened t
142 Post contains links BrianDromey : I got mine directly from the TUMI outlet store in HNL. Made a nice little saving over the store price, and an even nicer saving over the Euro/Pound p
143 Kaitak : MO'L has responded to questions of whether FR will support the EI acquisition of new aircraft: "We will consider any motions that come before the egm,
144 Shamrock604 : Well, just before I did praise it as being very spacious, and calming.......
145 Tonymctigue : Oops. Sorry any to any of our Australian visitors. And the fuel surcharge (if any) should be included in the advertised fare. Lets face it, it is not
146 Bramble : I do agree that changing the management will not solve any problems. I believe changing the management mentality would help the terrible IR situation
147 Post contains links OA260 : Aer Lingus dispute may escalate into all-out strike Thursday November 15 2007 The dispute over Aer Lingus' cost-cutting plans could be set to escalate
148 Danny : I have a difficulty understanding how can different laws apply to EI and FR. Some serious clamp down on SIPTU is needed. What is happening at Aer Lin
149 B747forever : Wonder if this will have a big affect on the airlines, mainly BA and AF???
150 OA260 : Yes it has to have some impact. I wonder how much of the LHR-CDG traffic is transit. I would say less and less would be point to point LHR-CDG passen
151 B747forever : That is what I also think. Who wants to go from London to Paris with BA or AF through LHR and CDG when you can take the train???
152 Post contains images Al2637 : Next year the Amsterdam-Brussels hi-speed line opens. We should see London-Rotterdam, and London-Amsterdam direct trains pretty soon
153 OA260 : Amsterdam-Brussels would be good. Nice dual citybreak. London-Amsterdam will hit Easyjet if the fares are competitive. KLM maybe hit to a lesser degr
154 Post contains links Rineanna : I heard on the radio that over a hundred EI employees walked out of a meeting with Mr Mannion just as he started to speak to try and explain his inten
155 B747forever : That is true. KLM will not suffer so much, because they have most connecting pax from LHR.
156 OA260 : " target=_blank>http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1115/aer....html Well that is a bit stupid. They should have at least had the courtesy to listen to him t
157 Smokeyrosco : Bunch of muppets.
158 Post contains links Al2637 : http://www.nshispeed.nl/index.php?option=com_sqills_flash&Itemid=560 Make no mistake, this will hit all airlines flying AMS-LON... KL, BD, BA, VG, EZ.
159 Shamrock604 : " target=_blank>http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1115/aer....html Very well done guys.. really helping your case. You say you want Management to talk to y
160 B747forever : That is true, but it will not affect BA and KL as much it will affect BD,VG and Easy jet
161 Smokeyrosco : Your dead right, It will be interesting to see what these people have to say when EI HAS to shut up shop and they are all out of jobs..... All this c
162 Shamrock604 : It just drags and drags and never changes.. one bloody crisis after the next. I dont want to offend the many good people in EI, but I really think th
163 BrianDromey : Well said, sir. I must say I have been surprised at the attitude of EI staff towards management on this board, on other boards staff bemoan that SIPT
164 Post contains images Shamrock604 : Thank god for that.. I was full sure I was about to get the flaming of a lifetime off someone..
165 Rineanna : That's what I find so strange/frustrating about EI. I can't remember the last time they weren't involved in some sort of a crisis. Someone, I think i
166 B747forever : That is true, it said that I feel that EI is getting the new Alitalia. That really bother me.
167 OA260 : LOL..... AF AZ ..... EI better join Skyteam ......lol.....
168 Post contains images Shamrock604 :
169 Post contains images B747forever :
170 Shamrock350 : Very disappointed to hear that staff just walked out, it they walk away from meetings with their CEO maybe it's best they walk away from their airline
171 OA260 : Just curious , what does a check in agent walk home with after tax each week????
172 Danny : Check in agent doesn't require a hell of qualification so presume it is low. If somebody is not happy with it then should look for a better job not s
173 OA260 : DM and the unions to go head to head on Prime Time tonight !!! Should be fun .
174 Post contains images Rineanna : You can say that again; Let's hope Miriam's the referee this time round!
175 BrianDromey : Danny, I dont think thats entirely fair. IHMO its experience and knowlage that counts, not a qualification. The education system does not suit everyb
176 OA260 : Totally agree. I have 2 friends who are check in agents at Dublin and they are highly qualified and good at their job. Now they do complain that some
177 Post contains images Shamrock350 : All I heard Michael Halpenny say was "stop the pay cuts" during Prime Time. Also when he was asked if he would book a flight with Aer Lingus for next
178 Kaitak : I'm really disappointed that staff walked out on DM; it was discorteous and doesn't get anyone anywhere. Flew home tonight, LGW-DUB, EI 249; have to s
179 Shamrock350 : Nice to hear you had good flights Kaitak even during this turbulent time for Aer Lingus. How full was the flight, I heard that loads are doing reasona
180 Kaitak : I'd have said about 80% full, though that's just a guess; it certainly looked more than satisfactory. I flew Flybe from JER to LGW this afternoon ...
181 OA260 : I remember I first time on a 146 is was Jersey European back then and there was the weird screeching noise as you come down . The old days when they
182 Kaitak : That's actually aerodynamic, rather than mechanical (I remember asking the pilot of one acft about this); it's the airbrakes and flaps ... the aircra
183 Shamrock350 : That's good to hear, they've done a good job advertising the route from what I have seen.
184 BrianDromey : Having worked at the cold front for a few months, I have the greatest respect for anyone who does it day in-day out, regardless of who they are, and
185 Danny : I wasn't talking about diplomas. Check in staff does not need to be very experienced, knowledgeable or educated. As such airlines will offer low pay
186 Smokeyrosco : Completely agree with the both of you, I don't think anyone in their right mind could argue with you about disagreeing with what happened today.
187 Post contains images EIDAA : I remember the first time I flew on a 146 and heard the flaps retracting after takeoff... didn't know what was going on! Whisperjet my @£%# I presum
188 OA260 : One might argue that it is highly qualified and educated staff that has made EI what it is today!!!
189 Post contains images Bramble : Perhaps surprisingly I have to agree. This situation is hurting our customers who after all pay my wages. I can understand the idea behind the walk o
190 Kaitak : Sorry, I didn't clarify that; I meant the whole crew, cabin and flight (4+2).
191 Shamrock604 : That doesnt surprise me at all Bramble... You seem to be one of the more level headed and realistic, and one of the most customer focused. I hope I d
192 Smokeyrosco : I think any EI worker on here that's made it known they are EI workers are very level headed decent workers, at least thats the impression I get.
193 Shamrock604 : I would agree, definitely.
194 Tonymctigue : You hit the nail on the head there Brian. I can see you think along the same lines as myself. At least a politician has to face the voters every few
195 Smokeyrosco : Progress? rte.ie/news
196 Post contains links OA260 : Some good news for EY after yesterdays A340 incident::: http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer...qa=business-qqqid=48049-qqqx=1.asp 16 November 2007 Dub
197 Smokeyrosco : Well done EY also from rte.ie/news.... Anyone know if it will run by or near SNN? EDIT: never mind it won't goes as far as Ennis for the moment. [Edi
198 B747forever : If EY do so good on flights to/from DUB I really think that EK can do at least as good as EY. That is something new. Wonder if it will work for FR???
199 Toulouse : Wow, you're "flying" through the threads. Just to let you all know, as I'm sure you were worried about me (sure thing) and thank all of you who advise
200 OA260 : Well who knows but I predicit IF Emirates comes in EY's load factors will go down by 30-40% !!!! There is not the traffic to sustain 81% loads with t
201 B747forever : Really glad to have you back, and good that you enjoyed your flights. Making any TR???
202 Toulouse : Many thanks B747forever. Unfortunately no TR, my wife wanted to keep our digital camera at home with her while I was away, and I think TR's without p
203 B747forever : Okey, I see. That is true.
204 Post contains links Tonymctigue : Actually there are sections of the lines that have already been replaced. You can see new tracks at the level corssing at Craughwell. There are photo
205 Kaitak : Quite possible that it was; was your acft 'DES? The crew were nice and helpful, but I guess after four flights, it's tiring! By the way, spare a thou
206 B747forever : OMG , what a nightmare.!!! That had to be interesting, from what I can read.
207 OA260 : Aer Lingus asks Ryanair for planes Ryanair has been approached by Aer Lingus about hiring aircraft to act as cover in case next Tuesday's industrial a
208 Post contains links Sawtooth : Interesting news story on that site Tonymctigue. A new EU report recommends providing funding for rail links to airports under the EU Regional Develo
209 Toulouse : Yes it was DES... so she obviously did a DUB-LGW-DUB-LGW-DUB with the same crew. My flight was only about 50% full, so nice for the pax. I saw that o
210 Smokeyrosco : Again from rte.ie/news, I have to say I completely agree with Bertie
211 Rojam : We interviewed Denis O'Brien (wearing a Paddy-green tie, how quaint) yesterday in NY as an investor-relations exercise and part of the session he agai
212 Post contains images Shamrock604 : Ha, I like it... thats a posh way of saying "cop on" really... well done Bertie. Now just go and sort the health service out...
213 B747forever : Really interesting info Rojam. I really agree with him, especially in point B. Just of topic. Do anyone of you suffer problems with A.net???
214 Post contains links Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus strike may be averted http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1116/aerlingus.html Things looking up but is the damage already done with passengers trus
215 Post contains links EI787 : Aer Lingus is now on Seat Guru!! http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Aer...gus/Aer_Lingus_Airbus_A330-200.php
216 B747forever : Finally, that is really great news. Thank you for sharing.
217 COEI2007 : Just back from doing DUB-MCO-DUB as pax! I paid for the upgrade on the way out to sit in the J seats. It was well worth it, because I slept for 6 hour
218 B747forever : Great to hear that you had good flights. That is great news. Seems that EI still doing good with its MCO flights,
219 BestWestern : SNN DUB fares are €0.01 every flight every day regular fares. This route cant last. Going Out Show flights leaving 1 day(s) prior to thi
220 Post contains images BestWestern : Bestwestern gets the 2007 award for a.net's longest post on an irish thread. Sorry
221 OA260 : Glad to hear that. Im glad I paid the extra for next Spring. Was the J class cabin quiet and child free??? Haha and I thought I was bad LOL.....
222 Post contains links Kaitak : No. 51 is off and rolling ... The 51st Is Flying: The New Irish Aviation Thread. (by Kaitak Nov 16 2007 in Civil Aviation)
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