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Long-Haul Biz Class Seats On 737 Or A319LR  
User currently offlineBRxxx From Taiwan, joined Aug 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3493 times:

A random question that popped up in my head, will it be possible to put lie-flat seats in 737-700ERs or A319LRs? If not, is it because it will make the front section of the plane too heavy?


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9642 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3389 times:

Privatair has lie flat seats throughout their 737/A319 long haul fleet.

Air France has dedicated A319s with international standard business class seats in front.

Sol Air has business class with 50'' pitch seats in front.

Overall, no the weight isn't prohibitive, although the heavier seats can have an effect. Usually though they are counteracted by there being fewer seats, so there isn't a big shift in the center of gravity. The floor and tracks do have to be strengthened if you are using heavier seats though.



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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3269 times:

Eurofly also have an aircraft in All Business Class configuration with lie flat including an AVOD IFE system at every seat. As far as I know they are the only airline offering this in the BBJ aircraft. Privatair only offers DVD / Digi players, something that I don't understand why they don't offer a fixed built in IFE system.

User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2444 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3192 times:

IIRC, United did a study for their charter business in where they installed herring bone pattern first suites in the 757 and calculated that they could get 44 in them. No link though, sorry.


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User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3176 times:

Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 3):
IIRC, United did a study for their charter business in where they installed herring bone pattern first suites in the 757 and calculated that they could get 44 in them. No link though, sorry.

EOS gets 48 lie-flat seats in their 757s.


User currently offlineBRxxx From Taiwan, joined Aug 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

Will the SQ new business class fit though?


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User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2444 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

Quoting Analog (Reply 4):
Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 3):IIRC, United did a study for their charter business in where they installed herring bone pattern first suites in the 757 and calculated that they could get 44 in them. No link though, sorry.
EOS gets 48 lie-flat seats in their 757s.

Ah, very true. I was referring to the herringbone pattern which is a bit different from EOS' layout. Theirs is more of a staggered arrangement.



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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2967 times:

Quoting BRxxx (Reply 5):
Will the SQ new business class fit though?

Yes why not however only in a 2 - 1 configuration instead of a 2 - 2 configuration. Regarding the futher space it takes I gues you could not fit in ore than around 30 seats into an A320 eg.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 7):
Yes why not however only in a 2 - 1 configuration instead of a 2 - 2 configuration. Regarding the futher space it takes I gues you could not fit in ore than around 30 seats into an A320 eg.

actually, it basically fits in a 1-1 configuration. But could be more "angled" during sleep, needing at most a 50" pitch. But you'd still only fit about 30 in a BBJ. Not really efficient. A more traditional herringbone would fit far more seats.



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