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Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?  
User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2393 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8560 times:

Delta is scheduled to start the following long-haul routes next year.

ATL-Lagos
JFK-TLV
ATL-LHR
JFK-LHR (2x)
ATL-PVG (777-200LR)
JFK-Dakar-Nairobi
JFK-Paris Orly
SLC-CDG
ATL-ARN
JFK-Dakar-CPT
JFK-Cairo
JFK-Malaga
JFK-Amman

So far, all of those routes are with the 767-300ER (except for PVG).

Where are they getting all those extra aircraft from?


777 utilization:

777-200ER
ATL-NRT
ATL-TLV
ATL-DXB (3x weekly)
ATL-ICN (4x weekly)
(one more route?)

777-200LR
ATL-JFK-BOM
ATL-PVG
ATL-JNB nonstop (?)
(one more route?)

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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8563 times:

I believe they took at least 10 or so former TWA 757-200s from American.

User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8556 times:

I think more 764ER's are coming off the domestic flights, being fitted with BizElite and taking over 763ER routes thus allowing more/new 763ER routes. Also some 763ER routes outta JFK are being switched to 757's freeing up even more 763ER's.


"To fly or not to fly there is no question!"
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4753 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8497 times:

next vs. this year:

+ 6 767-400ERs transferred to int'l
+15 757-200etops from AA

That will allow upgauge of certain routes and downgauge of others to allow for the expansion.



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineBelizexp From Belize, joined Dec 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8461 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
JFK-Malaga

Isn't this route using a 757 Etop with winglet (TW/AA) birds



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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2689 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8226 times:

Quoting Belizexp (Reply 4):
Isn't this route using a 757 Etop with winglet (TW/AA) birds

Yes, as does JFK-ORY. Aren't they adding JFK-LYS with a 757 as well?


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8062 times:

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 5):
Aren't they adding JFK-LYS with a 757 as well?

Correct.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
JFK-Dakar-Nairobi
JFK-Dakar-CPT

Not two seperate flights. The flight will go JFK-DKR daily, and then fly to CPT and NBO on alternating days of the week.


User currently offlineSacamojus From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 228 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7875 times:

Whats the possibility of DL picking up some used 767s when the 787s start coming off the line? What about getting CO's 767-400s once they start taking delivery of their 787s? Also, will the 787s replace some 777s that DL could pickup?

User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7782 times:

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 5):
Aren't they adding JFK-LYS with a 757 as well?

source?

DALelite



They loved to fly and it showed..
User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2209 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7750 times:

Quoting DALelite (Reply 8):
source?

DALelite

Check Delta.com or airfrance.com it was announced about a month ago.

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 7):
Whats the possibility of DL picking up some used 767s when the 787s start coming off the line? What about getting CO's 767-400s once they start taking delivery of their 787s? Also, will the 787s replace some 777s that DL could pickup?

Unlikely though you never know. CO have never spoken about getting rid of their 764s when the 787 comes online. They have however not decided what to do with the 762s, though I believe they will keep both.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7627 times:

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
ATL-PVG (777-200LR)

has this been confirmed with this EQP?

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 7):
What about getting CO's 767-400s once they start taking delivery of their 787s?

highly unlikely, CO needs all the capacity they can get, and their 787s will suppliment their expansion initially... not replace fleet.


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7584 times:

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 7):
Whats the possibility of DL picking up some used 767s when the 787s start coming off the line?

Definitely a possibility, but that would depend on a multitude of factors, e.g. number of cycles, overall age, engines, etc.

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 7):
What about getting CO's 767-400s once they start taking delivery of their 787s?

No chance, CO needs ever single one of their 764s far beyond the first 787 deliveries, and by the time they could dump them, DL will no doubt be in the 787 market as well and not need the 764s.

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 7):
Also, will the 787s replace some 777s that DL could pickup?

Could happen, but as with the 767s, depending on a multitude of factors. Though as far as CO goes, I can't see them giving up their 777s either.

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 10):
has this been confirmed with this EQP?

According to the schedules that route is still supposed to get the 772s freed up by putting the first 2 77Ls on the JFK-BOM route, though who knows, if DL were to see a huge demand that would make it more profitable to use the 77L fully loaded to PVG and keep the 772s on JFK-BOM with restrictions, changes could still happen.


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7527 times:

752's have been put on routes such as JFK-BRU/AMS/FRA etc. and 764's have been put on routes such as ATL-CDG/FCO/MXP/VCE/FRA/'LGW/BCN/SCL/GRU, etc. The 763's that used to fly these routes are being used for expansion.

I expect we will see more expansion next year as Delta still has a few more 767-400's to deploy and 772LR's coming online next year.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineIndio66 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7431 times:

When do JFK to ORY and LYN start?

User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1483 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4096 times:



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 12):
and 764's have been put on routes such as ATL-CDG/FCO/MXP/VCE/FRA/'LGW/BCN/SCL/GR

The 764 has NEVER been used by DL into VCE, might have happened once due to equipment sub....but not schduled...however the rest are correct.

Also, add ATL-AMS/SNN/DUB/MAN these have been flown with a 764 at one point or another.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8437 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3917 times:
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Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 5):
Yes, as does JFK-ORY. Aren't they adding JFK-LYS with a 757 as well?



Quoting Belizexp (Reply 4):
Isn't this route using a 757 Etop with winglet (TW/AA) birds

JFK- Malaga is a 757


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