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Kalitta Air Cargo 747 On Mythbusters  
User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12149 times:

Anyone catch the reg on the 747 Kalitta Cargo jet which was on today's Mythbusters (11/14) episode?

The goal was to blow over a taxi cab from 100 ft behind the engine..., which they successfully did.....


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User currently offlineBAKJet From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12131 times:

Didn't catch the Registration but saw the show. It was AWESOME  Big grin

User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12075 times:

N700CK is the reg. of the one on the show.


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User currently offlineAirfinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 667 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12026 times:



Quoting HPAEAA (Thread starter):
The goal was to blow over a taxi cab from 100 ft behind the engine..., which they successfully did.....

Along with a school bus & a C172 (I think.) Awesome.



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User currently offlineTb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1599 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12024 times:



Quoting Lexy (Reply 2):
N700CK is the reg. of the one on the show.

That's why she was so clean, that one just came online. I wanted to go up there and meet Kari but I was out flying Sad We heard they were gonna be up there to film back in late spring, I knew I should have called in sick. BTW it was filmed at our maintenance base in beautiful KOSC Oscoda-Wurtsmith (former AFB about 3 or so hours north of Detroit)



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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12007 times:

I loved the show, but the airplane geek inside me said that blowing things over in the wake of a 747 jetblast would be common sense. LOL!!!

Great show though, one of their better!!!



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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12006 times:

Wait, is it a new episode or an old one because I remember them doing this a few years back...


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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11982 times:

It's a new show. They have "Super Sized" the myths.


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User currently offlineTb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1599 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11961 times:



Quoting Boston92 (Reply 6):
Wait, is it a new episode or an old one because I remember them doing this a few years back...

They did one 2 years ago but the operator backed out at the last minute so they tried with some small bizjet sized engines. They finally found someone that would do it. They should have called CKS in the first place, we have done Hollywood stuff for years! A JT9D will put a hurting on anything at TO power that close.



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User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11904 times:

" They did one 2 years ago but the operator backed out at the last minute so they tried with some small bizjet sized engines. "

Yep, it was for 'Insurance Purposes' that they couldn't do it, I remember the show and the reason 

I have other programs recording on my DVR right now, but at 1am the 'Super Size' myths reruns, so it's already set.

It's nice to see the new shows are back, been pretty stagnant the last month or two with no new shows. I always worry they'll run out of myths to test, then I wont have anything fun to watch anymore 

[Edited 2007-11-14 19:55:35]


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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 11766 times:

Watched it here at work. And was only able to because ASA was late - go figure!

Quoting Airfinair (Reply 3):
Along with a school bus & a C172 (I think.) Awesome.

It might have even been a 152, it looked small.

Quoting Lexy (Reply 5):
I loved the show, but the airplane geek inside me said that blowing things over in the wake of a 747 jetblast would be common sense. LOL!!!

Me too. I'm like "do they seriously have ANY doubt that at the car is not going to be creamed?" I mean one might have to second guess the bus, and possibly see it for themselves, but a car is pretty much a no-brainer, even for non plane geeks. These engines have to lift hundreds of thousands of pounds into the air, and you think a car might just be able to pass by without a scratch? Phew - Okay I'm done ranting about that. That being said, it was a good show.


User currently offlineAirFrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11633 times:

Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 10):

Me too. I'm like "do they seriously have ANY doubt that at the car is not going to be creamed?" I mean one might have to second guess the bus, and possibly see it for themselves, but a car is pretty much a no-brainer, even for non plane geeks. These engines have to lift hundreds of thousands of pounds into the air, and you think a car might just be able to pass by without a scratch? Phew - Okay I'm done ranting about that. That being said, it was a good show.

Clearly you have not watched enough Mythbusters. 90% of the time the result is perfectly predictable. To keep that from being mundane they usually punctuate the experiments with as big of a boom as they can generate.

Every now and then they do come up with mind blowing things. Last weeks episode where they launched a water heat up through a house and achieved a 40 second hang time was amazing. Proving that salsa (esp electrified) could dissolve jail bars was another amazing result.

Of course, for us aviation geeks, they took on the cell phone can crash a plane myth. Using a emergency escape chute as a parachute, and blowing a hole through a pressured plane.

But for the most part, it's perfectly predictable.

(Edit) Here is the water heater video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmJoyuUJj2Q

[Edited 2007-11-14 23:00:06]

User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11625 times:

It's on again now! Tune to the Discovery Channel!


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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11283 times:



Quoting Tb727 (Thread starter):
BTW it was filmed at our maintenance base in beautiful KOSC Oscoda-Wurtsmith (former AFB about 3 or so hours north of Detroit

So that's where it was filmed. I wondered about the all white 747's there.



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User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3629 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11218 times:



Quoting Lexy (Reply 5):
I loved the show, but the airplane geek inside me said that blowing things over in the wake of a 747 jetblast would be common sense. LOL!!!

That's kinda the point of the show - a lot of things that are "common sense" aren't based on reality. For example, I think it's "common sense" that shooting out a window at altitude with a handgun would result in explosive decompression - they proved that it won't.

On the other hand, they seem to enjoy it when myths are proven true. Some "myths" they know are true from the get-go, and they just want to see it for themselves (and show everybody else). I haven't seen this episode yet, but I know from when they tried to do it with the biz-jet engines that they knew it actually happened (they showed the newspaper reports complete with pics), but they just didn't have enough power. Sounds like they finally got it.



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User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 11171 times:

They did the wrong experiment.  Angry

What they should have done is load the 747 with 100,000 pigeons and find out what happens then.  Smile

If A 747 Were To Have 100,000 Pigeons In It... (by Sushka Feb 7 2002 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineFAEDC3 From Ecuador, joined Jun 2007, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 11050 times:



Quoting Petertenthije (Reply 15):
What they should have done is load the 747 with 100,000 pigeons and find out what happens then.

They already did...  Big grin I saw that episode, and they proved that there is no change in weight. They did not put 100K pigeons inside a 747, but instead did put something like 200 in a shipping container and then weigh it...

I'll see if I can find it in youtube and will post it..


User currently offlineTepidHalibut From Iceland, joined Dec 2004, 209 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 10978 times:



Quoting Petertenthije (Reply 15):
What they should have done is load the 747 with 100,000 pigeons and find out what happens then.

Or perhaps had the 747 taking off from a conveyer belt? (Tho' I bet even that wouldn't convince some of our contributors...)


User currently offlineJbernie From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 10909 times:

They could always contact the guys over at Top Gear in the UK who blew over a car or two with the 747 at their "testing ground", only last week or so they had Jeremy trying to tractor pull it in one of their challenges.

Hmmm.. Top Gear & Mythbusters, UK & US, that should make an interesting show.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10828 times:

Top Gear did a similar experiment a while back, but with remote driven cars to show the effect. It ripped apart a Deux Cheveux, IIRC. Really cool.

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 11):
90% of the time the result is perfectly predictable. To keep that from being mundane they usually punctuate the experiments with as big of a boom as they can generate.

It's when they aren't that it's cool. The one about pirates wearing eye patches so they can see in the dark and sunlight with ease just by switching sides seemed to be unlikely, but it was verifiable via experiments and testing. And because most ships of that period had really similar layouts, swapping the patch to your dark eye meant you could go below decks, stab people and steal what you wanted very, very quickly. And if any crew members followed from above who hadn't worn an eye patch? They'd be nearly blind and easy prey as soon as the went below decks. And if anyone from below followed you out? They'd be blinded by the sun while your "bright eye" would still not have adjusted to the dark, giving you an advantage on your way out.



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User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5481 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10806 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 19):
Deux Cheveux

Two Hairs? Not that hard to rip apart. Big grin

(I think you might have been looking for "Deux Chevaux".  Wink )


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 60
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10779 times:



Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 20):

Yep. My bad. It's been a long time since I studied French...

But it ripped apart like it was made of sticks, if not straw!



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User currently offlineMidcon385 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10701 times:

Quoting Tb727 (Reply 4):
I wanted to go up there and meet Kari

You sound like me. If Kari was anywhere near me, I'd want to go and meet her too!

Great Mythbusters episode last night with great footage inside the cockpit and outside of the Kalitta 747.

Tim

[Edited 2007-11-15 16:26:04]


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User currently offlineSuprazachair From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10524 times:

You guys are crazy... Kari =  yuck   vomit 

As for the episode, I have never been so thoroughly filled with glee as I was watching the second that car went airborne. I had to pause my Tivo and laugh for a solid 2 minutes. It was awesome.

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10506 times:



Quoting HPAEAA (Thread starter):
Anyone catch the reg on the 747 Kalitta Cargo jet which was on today's Mythbusters (11/14) episode?

The goal was to blow over a taxi cab from 100 ft behind the engine..., which they successfully did.....

Good Television, but they could have solved their problem by calling United. They had a training video I have seen that was shot at SFO, where they blow a 10,000gallon tanker into the bay.

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 11):
they usually punctuate the experiments with as big of a boom as they can generate.

Such as the rocket motor exploding last night.

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 11):
Last weeks episode where they launched a water heat up through a house and achieved a 40 second hang time was amazing

They could have called Watts regulator for some of their archive footage. They where doing the same experiements back in the 1930's when they where pushing for safety valves to be mandatory equipment on water heaters.

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 11):
Proving that salsa (esp electrified) could dissolve jail bars was another amazing result.

That one did surprise me.

Quoting Petertenthije (Reply 15):
They did the wrong experiment.



Quoting TepidHalibut (Reply 17):
Quoting Petertenthije (Reply 15):
What they should have done is load the 747 with 100,000 pigeons and find out what happens then.

Or perhaps had the 747 taking off from a conveyer belt? (Tho' I bet even that wouldn't convince some of our contributors...)

Just don't do the one where they figure out what happens if you fly an airplane in a skyscraper.....that would be in bad taste.



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25 Post contains images Fwa2500 : being an avid Top Gear fan, i must point out that if you are watching it on BBC America, you are a full season behind whats current....but it is awes
26 Post contains images JetMech : Thanks for the video! I always knew jet engines where powerful, but to blow over a large bus from that distance is amazing! All we need now is a M1A2
27 Francoflier : I prefered the Top Gear bit. It was original, properly done with a proper 747-400 (VS of course...). It also had the 2 inboard engines running @ TO th
28 Tb727 : No, man, she's gotta be crazy in the sa....ah never mind.
29 Post contains images Ikramerica : Of course it's novel. USA TV is full of stuff the british did 5 years ago, but remade for our consumption without those silly accents. And thus, sinc
30 Ctbarnes : Anyone see the Mythbusters broadcast a few weeks back where they staged an explosive decompression aboard an old HA DC-9? They wanted, as I recall, to
31 Ikramerica : I assume they showed that a bullet hole wouldn't even cause a decompression? Or is a DC9 that old too poor at maintaining pressure that it actually h
32 Khobar : Top Gear tested a "light as a feather" POS 2CV, right (1235lbs)? I could tip one of those things by myself. They also tested a Ford Mondeo (approx. w
33 Ctbarnes : That's right. A bullet hole had no effect on cabin pressure. As I recall, they did tests to make sure the test aircraft could be pressurized. They pr
34 Litz : Not only pressurized, but they had a Huffer constantly maintaining the pressure, to ensure that any leaks did not compromise the test. The first time
35 Msnell : Both shows are great entertainment but I must admit to having a preference for Top Gear. It started out as a pure 'What car to buy' show but has gradu
36 Luv2cattlecall : Sat next to her on a flight once, definitely looks better on TV (not that that says a lot). Rather annoying too, she was on the phone before doors cl
37 EMBQA : When you watch that video the next time take note that there in no engine in that truck.... !!! So it weighs way less and will fly much further.
38 Jbernie : I was astounded by that one, was such a disappointment that the booster tank didn't release correctly. Would love to see them try to repeat that one
39 Dragon-wings : You forgot the airplane related Mythbusters one where they shot dead chickens through a airplane windshield to see if/what kind of damage it will do.
40 Tb727 : That was originally a Learjet thing from the early 60's when Bill Lear wanted to sit in the cockpit of the test aircraft to prove how well it was des
41 Boston92 : For us in the states, it airs again at 5PM Eastern (Or for those like me who live in the west, but have Directv). Still haven't seen it yet.
42 Sandyb123 : Hi, As mentioned above this was done on BBC Top Gear about 2 years ago. SandyB123
43 HPAEAA : Thanks for the Video.. but why did they hide the fact that it was a Virgin Atlantic Jet?
44 Wolflair : There are 2 other videos not to be missed: Lotus Exige VS AH64-D (and I agree w the Hamster, it was easier to let the Apache get out of the airfield
45 Dragon-wings : I just remembered another aviation myth they did on Mythbusters. They put a postage stamp on a helicopter blade to see if it will un balance the blade
46 NIKV69 : Watching it now, the last time Mythbusters tried this in the mojave they were denied use of the plane at the last minute and brought in some crap engi
47 Maverick623 : At the risk of rehashing an old argument.... I saw not a single correct answer in that thread. A few partially correct answers, followed by muck.
48 Post contains images RayChuang : Doing this test with a 747 engine is one thing. How about repeating the test with an EMBRAER 170 regional jet powered by two CF34 engines? I'll almost
49 Sandyb123 : The live show didn't have the Virgin titles covered up and there are other vids on Youtube which don't have this. Must be this video (plus the annoyi
50 Jwenting : Not so hasty, they're airing the 2005 seasons here as "the new season of Mythbusters", so it'll be a few years yet.
51 TCFC424 : The UA training video I saw (two months ago) was an old Ford pickup being blown into SFO bay. Of course it was environmentally friendly and had been s
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