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FLL To Get Non-stop London Service  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11810 times:

And the rumors were true...

http://www.miamiherald.com/business/story/308231.html

Tomorrow afternoon, Zoom is expected to announce three weekly non-stop, scheduled flights between Ft. Lauderdale and London Gatwick, beginning in May.

Great news. If this does well over the summer, I can totally see this going daily next winter.

Combined with Maxjet's likely (although delayed from the original January 2008 planned start) arrival to MIA next year, it will be for some healthy competition and five airlines in the Miami-London market.

[Edited 2007-11-15 01:01:49]


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User currently offlineShadez From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11312 times:

Excellent News. I think it will do pretty well.

User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11194 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
And the rumors were true...

Gee, I wonder what rumors those were,  Big grin
It will be great to have TATL flights from FLL on a regular basis again.
This flight should do very well with current exchange rate between the pound and dollar.



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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3207 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 10989 times:

Great news for FLL. Should be quite a good moneymaker for Zoom, especially (as mentioned before) with the excellent exhange rate at the moment. I will definately be on this flight next year!  Big grin


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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 10927 times:

Zoom ? Couldn't they get a real airline ?

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 10914 times:

Is the flight timed at FLL to avoid the congestion of the international terminal? From the horror stories I've heard of all the international expansion and all of the new flights arriving at the same time, I hope Zoom avoids the worst of it!!


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User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10554 times:



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 4):
Zoom ? Couldn't they get a real airline ?

Like Kulula or Mango? Ha,ha,ha!!!


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26906 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10514 times:

Thats deffo good news for the FLL area and the cruise port . Alot of ships now out of FLL and very handy.

User currently offlineAcelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10477 times:

Personally I'd much prefer to fly into FLL then MIA, but with Zoom I don't know...
Never seen much good or bad about them I guess....



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User currently offlineBAKJet From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9142 times:

We all know how true rumors are. It would be great if this did happen.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9142 times:



Quoting BAKJet (Reply 9):
We all know how true rumors are. It would be great if this did happen.

What rumours? It is happening. It isn't a rumour. It was a rumour, now it's been officially leaked by the Miami Herald.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17416 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9121 times:

Whatever happened to Laker Airways operation between FLL and Europe in the 90s, besides obviously ending. Did they run out of money or could they not fill the planes?

Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 8):
Personally I'd much prefer to fly into FLL then MIA

Every day the reverse becomes more and more true I think



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User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 837 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9096 times:

Didnt Laker try FLL back in 2000 and something or the late 90's. They didnt find the traffic for it. I wouldnt imagine it features hugely on most holidaymakers list of must go places but at least another option I suppose.

It will be interesting if its a route they keep in the winter as I can see it having decent traffic in the winter as that would fill a definate gap

Most of the Cruises use the charters from the UK so I doubt they will pick up huge amounts of traffic from that but it will give the few who choose to make their own flight arrangements another choice.

Im going to Fort Lauderdale next November but even though Zoom is more convenient I'll be with BA to Miami - till Zoom get flat beds anyways



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8976 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 11):
Whatever happened to Laker Airways operation between FLL and Europe in the 90s, besides obviously ending. Did they run out of money or could they not fill the planes?

I don't know the details exactly, but other than running out of money, they had huge issues with slots and complained about anti-competitive moves by other airlines. I'll look up some old articles on Lexis later today and post them.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 11):

Every day the reverse becomes more and more true I think

Especially when one flies through the new South Concourse. Though, admittedly, flying AA at MIA is going to be a mess for the next 24-30 months while Concourse A is closed and the North Concourse construction wraps up. They are tight on gates pace and are already having to have some flight use Concourse G, which will soon be pretty empty (only Northwest, AirTran, and Gulfstream).

Quoting APYu (Reply 12):
It will be interesting if its a route they keep in the winter as I can see it having decent traffic in the winter as that would fill a definate gap

I couldn't imagine it not being kept during the winter.



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User currently offlineBAKJet From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8934 times:

Although it does sound the likely the article never says that it has been announced it says they are expected to announce.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8877 times:



Quoting BAKJet (Reply 14):
Although it does sound the likely the article never says that it has been announced it says they are expected to announce.

Indeed, it does, but they will be announcing it within the next few days. The Herald got the story leaked to them, which happens once in a while for airline announcements.



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User currently offlineBAKJet From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8832 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
Indeed, it does, but they will be announcing it within the next few days. The Herald got the story leaked to them, which happens once in a while for airline announcements.

Didn't the article say it was expected to be announced today. Has it been?(not meant to be mean or sarcastic that is a real question)


User currently offlineBAOPS777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8665 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Tomorrow afternoon, Zoom is expected to announce three weekly non-stop, scheduled flights between Ft. Lauderdale and London Gatwick, beginning in May.

Great news just a shame it is Zoom this airline has been dogged with problems at there London base since it started ops.

Infact Customs in London say that they have yet to hear of it arrive on time. It is often delayed from 2hours to 2 days and cancelled.

Pax on there NYC service have voted with there feet.

However I have heard they plan to add 2 more 762 to the 2 in service so hopefully one will be a standby aircraft.

It is a great airline when it goes well. I wish them all the best


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26906 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8664 times:



Quoting APYu (Reply 12):
Most of the Cruises use the charters from the UK

They dont actually . The big players in the UK actually use BA/VS/AA/DL/CO . My second hobbie is cruise vacations and I have never been offered a charter flight by Royal Caribbean/Celebrity/Silversea or NCL. They have the odd charter but it wouldnt be more than 10% . I have seen the odd charter into BGI and the weekly Summer ones to PMI by First Choice but for the USA its 90% scheduled services they use.


User currently offlineFLLspoter From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 314 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8524 times:



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 4):
Zoom ? Couldn't they get a real airline ?

I agree. Ocasonaly we get Thomas Cook or a FCA but that is it that goes across the pond. I mean we should get BA/VS or AA service across the pond.

Joe



FLL justs gets better and better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineBAOPS777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8351 times:



Quoting FLLspoter (Reply 19):
I agree. Ocasonaly we get Thomas Cook or a FCA but that is it that goes across the pond. I mean we should get BA/VS or AA service across the pond.

I work for BA but must say the FCA product is excellent. That is one airline that could make a huge sucess of a 5-7 x weekly service to FLL. BA won't as it offers a codeshare flight with AA ex ORD and would have to have clear evidence of a year round direct customer base. Saying that BA operates next summer 14 x week to MIA, 10x week to MCO (up from 7) and 5 x week to TPA. FLL with BA would be a good service for the BA portfolio it would probably operate ex LGW and would probably start 3 x weekly if BA where to operate it.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8288 times:



Quoting BAKJet (Reply 16):
Didn't the article say it was expected to be announced today. Has it been?(not meant to be mean or sarcastic that is a real question)

Yes, it did say that, but that's apparently not the case. The announcement will come within a few days according to Miami's ABC affiliate.

Quoting BAOPS777 (Reply 20):
Saying that BA operates next summer 14 x week to MIA, 10x week to MCO (up from 7) and 5 x week to TPA. FLL with BA would be a good service for the BA portfolio it would probably operate ex LGW and would probably start 3 x weekly if BA where to operate it.

And apparently MIA-LHR on BA will return to 17x weekly In November 2008.



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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 8022 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 11):
Every day the reverse becomes more and more true I think

Especially with the current situation in Terminal 4 at FLL.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5400 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7760 times:

Very interesting development which I will be following very closely... The article does not speak of "definites" but seems pretty sure that something is up... Again, from my viewpoint, very interesting.

bb


User currently offlineRSWA330 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7730 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 22):
Especially with the current situation in Terminal 4 at FLL.

Hasn't FLL actually seen a slight decrease in passengers?


25 Shadez : In 2006, yes traffic was down. But, right now traffic is booming. This year's traffic is up 5.1%, or 835,000 Passengers. 2008 is on pace to be even l
26 DTWAGENT : Ok Question...??? Where are they going to put this airline. That airport is bulging at the seams with airlines. And they have no room to expand..... I
27 MAH4546 : FLL has plenty of gate space to add the airline, it's just immigration and check-in space that is a problem. Zoom will most likely have another airli
28 MAH4546 : I just read the user comments on the Zoom article. Now granted, there is a natural bias, IMO, to post negative things over positive, but very interes
29 APYu : But these are not the ones that bring the masses of UK tourists over, these are international cruise lines which have a smaller UK only market and ar
30 Humberside : Not really worth opening a new thread for this Why have Zoom stopped selling BDA-JFK. Any chance of BDA being split from JFK soon? Talking of cruise f
31 OA260 : Royal Caribbean themselves have 16% of the UK market share and 2008 will be a even bigger slice. Then you have NCL and Costa all who use scheduled ai
32 Bobnwa : What cruise lines would the UK passengers be catching in FLL? Not sure what you mean by "international cruise lines". All the cruises out of FLL go i
33 APYu : None of the ones you quoted are UK Cruises - They are international cruises with the odd tens of people flying in from each of hundreds of countries
34 Bobnwa : Please give an example of a UK cruise departing from FLL. What cruise line would it be.
35 APYu : Sorry, to clarify - those which are marketed internationally and not just to one country or market. I think the Thomas Cook flights to FLL are for P
36 OA260 : 95% of UK cruise passengers fly the night before so if there was a delay they still would get the ship. Other that opt for cruise and stay would not
37 Xulu8 : Who is to say that Zoom Airlines isn't a real airline? They have an air operators certificate, etops, been in business for 6 years, is that not enough
38 Xulu8 : September 2007 Zoom Airlines 86% of flights departed Gatwick within 15 minutes of schedule - position 7/46 in the league table British Airways 70% of
39 OA260 : Thanks for the info , thats good to know. Tell me something do you have a Premium Economy class with different seats than the normal Y class or is it
40 Xulu8 : Zoom has a premium economy, its Y class seats are different than those in Y+., and have a 36' seat pitch. Since Zoom is a low-cost carrier, and consid
41 Nomadic : I am an officer on a cruise ship and as I write this, we are at the end of a 10 day voyage to the Southeren Caribbean on our way back to Ft. lauderda
42 OA260 : Hi there , really nice job to have . I bet its really rewarding. I always enjoy my cruise vacations and the crews are so friendly and welcoming. You
43 Nomadic : There has been talk for quite some time of a monorail or people mover link between the port and the air terminal. I would love to see that but it is
44 Shadez : Who will be operating that?
45 Humberside : Monarch I think. No doubt that they will do more FLL flights than just the HUY/BFS one throughout next winter season
46 OB1504 : Please note that I'm not taking sides here, as I'm thrilled to see a third airline on MIA/FLL-LON, but how many flights does Zoom have out of LON whe
47 JGPH1A : It's easy to have a good on-time departure record if you only have 3 or 4 flights a day, compared with BA's and VS's operations at LGW.
48 Xulu8 : Why is it, that a larger carrier like BA cannot be ontime? In canada for instance, an airline known as West Jet, has many many departures and they all
49 JGPH1A : It depends on the nature of the operation, and the nature of the airport from which it is operating. LGW has one runway, and yet is one of the busies
50 Xulu8 : Right ,so, I do not understand that person's comment , expressing a certain anamocity towards a good airline that is on average more punctual than a l
51 OA260 : Can you advise me on this ???
52 Fllcontinental : Where is the press release? I hope it comes out soon and I hope that it IS nonstop and not routed throught bermuda like JFK.
53 JGPH1A : My comment was in relation to the fact that Zoom is a lT carrier masquerading as an LCC (like Condor and so many others), rather than a full service c
54 Xulu8 : What is an IT carrier?
55 JGPH1A : Inclusive Tour ie. charter. The route structure (low frequency, point-to-point services to leisure destinations) the product (pure Y or Y and Y+), the
56 Xulu8 : You see, Zoom Airlines does not do that, therefore they are not a charter airline. If you look on their webite and look on their schedualed destinatio
57 JGPH1A : The line between IT and LCC is blurring, but it is essentially a difference in distribution. The product remains the same, just the way you get the b
58 Xulu8 : But ,that is what you call an international low cost carrier. The difference between a low cost domestic carrier such as ryanair and an international
59 JGPH1A : True, but that is only because of the length of the flight and the relative expectations of the passengers - and only for a given value of "frills".
60 Xulu8 : Yes but Zoom is classified as a low cost carrier, because they do not offer connecting flights or business class, but focus on economy and premium eco
61 JGPH1A : Couple of questions. Can Zoom tickets be fully flexible ? And do Zoom offer interline ticketing with other carriers to enable connections ?
62 Xulu8 : no and no, because they are a low cost carrier. What low cost carrier can you name, does that? Oasis certainly doesn't.
63 Post contains links Xulu8 : Perhaps this will help, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-cos...arrier#No-frills_long-haul_flights A low-cost carrier or low-cost airline (also known a
64 Post contains links Xulu8 : or here http://www.cybertrip.com/07052007.php "In addition, Zoom's model is, for the most part, untested. Low-cost carriers tend to gain market share
65 GARUDAROD : The Queen Mary 2 has sailed from FLL since its inaugural. That is a "British" cruise. FLL is the 2nd largest cruise port in the world, after Miami. Wh
66 SANFan : ...meanwhile, yet another day gone by without any word from Zoom... (Perhaps this was just a bit of wishful thinking by the newspaper?) Who knows what
67 MAH4546 : It's not wishful thinking by the newspaper. They certainly got the dates wrong, but the sources were 100% accurate on Zoom's pending announcement. FL
68 FLLspoter : They go three times weekly from Port Everglades Joe
69 Post contains images FCAFLYBOY : Hi Guys I work for UKZ and can confirm it is defintely going ahead, the flight will operate twice-weekly initially, operating both ways via BDA, and t
70 Humberside : That explains BDA-JFK being withdrawn for sale. Will they be selling BDA-FLL?
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