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Bush To Take On Airline Delays  
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5256 times:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071115/ap_on_go_pr_wh/airline_delays

Hearings in progress now...

Maybe they'll just mandate issuance of iPhones to all pilots...  Wink

84 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 950 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5198 times:

Well increasing the denied boarding compensation will be a big step forward in reducing delays.

The White House said Bush would announce a series of decisions, including action to aid travelers whose flights are canceled or delayed. The Transportation Department has been drafting regulations to increase the bump fees for travelers who buy tickets but wind up without a seat. The department has been considering increasing the fee from $200 to more than $600.


I'd like to see what Bush can do that will reduce delays starting next week.


User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5172 times:

because afterall he's done such a bang up job at everyhting else he's touched.


maybe he could start by firing the head of the FAA and privitizing it.


User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3150 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5128 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
because afterall he's done such a bang up job at everyhting else he's touched.


maybe he could start by firing the head of the FAA and privitizing it.

Yeah, because Lockheed has given us such a stellar example of what happens when you privatize.



DMI
User currently offlineFxra From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

I'm giddy with antcipation. I enjoyed the FoxNews report that just said the prez hopes to have new measures in place by the thanksgiving travel days. Obviously one of them (Bush or Fox) isn't aware how swiftly the airlines, FAA, ATC, DOT, and others implement change. We need proposals and studies and opinions and rulemaking committees.

I would love a picture of him in front of JFK with a big Missions Accomplished banner on Tuesday.



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User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5111 times:



Quoting ADXMatt (Reply 1):
The department has been considering increasing the fee from $200 to more than $600.

I thought they already did that.  Confused


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5038 times:



Quoting Fxra (Reply 4):
I would love a picture of him in front of JFK with a big Missions Accomplished banner on Tuesday.

It's scary to think about, but if there's good weather for Thanksgiving and Christmas (i.e. no blizzards and no other delay-producers like reduced cigs/vis in fog/rain), he could actually get out there and try to take credit for the lack of delays...


User currently offlineNycfly75 From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 759 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5014 times:

Unused Military Airspace will be opened up to commercial flights. http://www.cnn.com/2007/TRAVEL/11/15/airline.delays.ap/index.html

[Edited 2007-11-15 10:01:01]

User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5000 times:



Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 3):
Yeah, because Lockheed has given us such a stellar example of what happens when you privatize.

Lockheed was always private..dont you mean a bailout?


User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4910 times:

The one I love was the airline industry association saying airlines are adding extra flights and more planes next week to cope with demand and minimize delays.

I thought they have been saying previously the delay issues were caused by too many planes flying - blaming all the bizjets which clog up the airways!!

So I guess airline extra planes don't stress the system.


User currently offlineJoness0154 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 667 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4820 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 8):

Lockheed was always private..dont you mean a bailout?

No, he's talking about when the FAA started handing over FSS to Lockheed. They've had tons of problems, including missing flight plans, no 'local' knowledge, long wait times for briefers, etc. The problems still exist, however they are getting better.



I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem
User currently offlineFxra From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4803 times:

Quoting Nycfly75 (Reply 7):
Unused Military Airspace will be opened up to commercial flights

Without knowing which restricted areas are being opened, I wonder what "the plan" s for the airspace usage. Theres no way over the next week we can come up with and publish procedures (SID's, STARS, Pref routings) that can take advantage of these areas. Will i be able to flight plan through them or are they for strategic routing only by ATC?

Maybe this will allow us to have more places to hold while we wait to land at the NY Metros.

IMHO opinion, most of these measures are purely for the perception that we are doing something by the politcians. While the extra airspace will help some, it should have been done months ago and been able to be structured for better use. Unfortunately no one knew there was going to be a holiday travel rush around thanxgiving back in June.

[Edited 2007-11-15 11:59:04]


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4794 times:



Quote:
I'm giddy with antcipation. I enjoyed the FoxNews report that just said the prez hopes to have new measures in place by the thanksgiving travel days. Obviously one of them (Bush or Fox) isn't aware how swiftly the airlines, FAA, ATC, DOT, and others implement change. We need proposals and studies and opinions and rulemaking committees.

I would love a picture of him in front of JFK with a big Missions Accomplished banner on Tuesday.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

And flying in on a fighter jet as well...

Quote:
Well increasing the denied boarding compensation will be a big step forward in reducing delays.

I'm not sure how, but I agree that is something the airlines need to do!!

Quote:
The one I love was the airline industry association saying airlines are adding extra flights and more planes next week to cope with demand and minimize delays.

I thought they have been saying previously the delay issues were caused by too many planes flying - blaming all the bizjets which clog up the airways!!

So I guess airline extra planes don't stress the system.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Welcome to the wonderful world of the airlines!! "But the market demands that we schedule 400 RJ flights out of LGA in a thirty minute time period!! If we don't, someone else will!!"



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User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3402 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4789 times:



Quoting Fxra (Reply 11):
Unfortunately no one knew there was going to be a holiday travel rush around thanxgiving back in June.

Its a good thing I wasn't drinking anything, because I garuntee it would have gone right out my nose!



When in doubt, one B pump off
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4736 times:



Quoting Fxra (Reply 11):
IMHO opinion, most of these measures are purely for the perception that we are doing something by the politcians. While the extra airspace will help some, it should have been done months ago and been able to be structured for better use. Unfortunately no one knew there was going to be a holiday travel rush around thanxgiving back in June.

Concur... I was surprised not to hear Bush's plan for eliminating thunderstorms, and exactly how he had planned to increased th AAR at some of these delay-prone airports. Maybe he covered those aspects when I was in the bathroom barfing over the stuff he'd said earlier...  Yeah sure


User currently offlineIAHFLYER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4704 times:

Does anyone have a map of this?


Little airports with the big jets are the best!! Floyd
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4676 times:



Quoting IAHFLYER (Reply 15):
Does anyone have a map of this?

Somehow, I just can't seem to get the image of George drawing on a High chart with a box of crayons out of my mind. Hope the route doesn't run MIA..BDA..JFK!


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7552 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4657 times:

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 9):
The one I love was the airline industry association saying airlines are adding extra flights and more planes next week to cope with demand and minimize delays.

The is actually not true at all as over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, there is minimal difference the in the number of flights. In fact, on Thanksgiving Day, Friday, and Saturday, there are SIGNIFICANTLY LESS flights than during an average week as airlines reduce the number of flights into business markets and operate more on a holiday schedule. Where there may be a few leisure destinations that see additonal flights or increased aircraft sizes, it balances out the frequency reduction into other airports.

Every year it is the standard story about increased delays around Thanksgiving due to "demand." There is no material difference in the number of flights from most other non-holiday periods, still less than the typical number of flights operated during the airlines' peak summer schedules.

There are just more people flying than an ordinary November week, meaning that load factors are higher, there are more people at the airport, and more clueless relatives driving in circles around the airport roadways waiting to pick up Aunt Jean who called to say "she just landed" and is still on the plane taxiing in from 22R.


Take NW for example, they are essentially shutting down the airline around 5pm on Thanksgiving Day. They cut the last 2 banks at DTW & MSP and the last bank at MEM on Thanksgiving since very few people travel on Thanksgiving night. On that Friday morning, there are many flights that are not operating.

These "delays" don't just show up on Thankgiving or Christmas, it just usually appears more in the limelight where the government wants to have you believe they are doing something. If there are "delays" they will say that they warned us, if there aren't "delays" they will take credit for averting them (even if they played no part in it - i.e., it was a nice sunny day in ORD/PHL/LGA/JFK/EWR).

[Edited 2007-11-15 13:26:04]

User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4628 times:
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So what is this..the war on airlines? The war on Air Travel? The war on the sky? I'd suggest The war on passengers but NW already has a TM on that!


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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7407 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4605 times:
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Quoting ADXMatt (Reply 1):
I'd like to see what Bush can do that will reduce delays starting next week.

Big mistake, this will only put himself in more crosshairs of democrats and liberals, that "if" something was to go wrong concerning operations, it will be "Bush's fault". Like OPNLguy, Fxra, and others in the camp of "I can't wait to see how many people miss their thanksgivings because of this stupid plan", are just simply excited by seeing people angry, miserable and upset for purely political agenda driven purposes. The feral gov't usually keeps it's hands of things like this and only after a disaster like the Valentines Day B6, or the NW New Years 1999 debacles occur, that self-promoting lawmakers jump in front of the podium to demand the airlines take responsibility for what happened. Bush is only trying to make an honest attempt at averting possible incidents like this from happening again.

Quoting Fxra (Reply 11):
IMHO opinion, most of these measures are purely for the perception that we are doing something by the politcians. While the extra airspace will help some, it should have been done months ago and been able to be structured for better use. Unfortunately no one knew there was going to be a holiday travel rush around thanxgiving back in June.

And who's to say just because this was announced that the groundworks weren't initially laid in the several months ago? It's not like the president can just make a phone call saying he want Military or restricted airspace made available tomorrow. It most likely takes discussion and planning to determine which airspace can be made available that won't threaten national security. I find youcynicism childish, borish and off-candor uninspired. It's just another preamble to obvious forthcoming Bush-bashing.



Made from jets!
User currently offlineXT6Wagon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 3393 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4593 times:

Only question is Does Haliburton or Blackwater get the no-bid contract for the "solution"

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4598 times:

Quoting Doug_Or (Reply 13):
Quoting Fxra (Reply 11):
Unfortunately no one knew there was going to be a holiday travel rush around thanxgiving back in June.

Its a good thing I wasn't drinking anything, because I garuntee it would have gone right out my nose!

LMAO!!!!!

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 12):
But the market demands that we schedule 400 RJ flights out of LGA in a thirty minute time period!! If we don't, someone else will!!"

Sad but true I'm afraid.

Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 18):
So what is this..the war on airlines? The war on Air Travel? The war on the sky?

LMAO again!!!

Nice to know Dubbya has nothing more pressing to be dealing with (such as World Poverty, the clusterf*ck in Iraq, the strength of the dollar etc) and has taken time out of his golf sessions to (deep breath)...

...appoint an appointment committee who will appoint a team of Governmental planners to form an analysis committee which will answer to the recommendation committee which will then report to the Congressional committee on implemention (subject to appeal due process, approval from the senate, and the whims of any Captains of Industry who didnt get appointed on any of the other committees), which will implement findings for the recommendation of the consideration of selection and appointment of a task force which will bring its action plan before a new committee (to be decided) which will discuss findings and go in front of the house to produce its findings, no later than 2019. These findings will then be used as the basis for the Congressional Enquiry.

Of course the enquiry, which will cost the US taxpayer US$400m, will find that the delays are caused by all those RJs and nobody can do anything about it as binning them will bankrupt the airlines.

Or they could have just asked A-net Big grin

[Edited 2007-11-15 13:47:50]


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineBAKJet From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4575 times:



Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 19):
Bush is only trying to make an honest attempt at averting possible incidents like this from happening again.

Hasn't the FAA already taken this into their hands. Also I can't wait too see what his brilliant plan will be.


User currently offlineB777a340fan From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 773 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4535 times:



Quoting ADXMatt (Reply 1):
Well increasing the denied boarding compensation will be a big step forward in reducing delays.

How is it going to help? The airlines won't have any problem passing that extra "compensation" on to the customers. At which point, the customers will complain. Moreover, if you're bumped off a flight, the LAST thing you'd want is a free drink at the airport.

Quoting Fxra (Reply 11):
IMHO opinion, most of these measures are purely for the perception that we are doing something by the politcians.

AMEN!

Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 18):
So what is this..the war on airlines? The war on Air Travel? The war on the sky? I'd suggest The war on passengers but NW already has a TM on that!

I'd be more ready to declare war on stupid passengers who slow security lines or who think they can go through JFK/ORD/LAX/SFO security half an hour early.

My point is if you don't want to fly, DON'T! There's always driving or the train. I don't think airlines do it on purpose to delay your flights. It is always easy for passengers to complain and for the government to impose stringier requirements on the airlines, but who picks up the tab when they're financially in the hole? Nobody. While I do agree delays and overbookings are a pain, I just accept it as being the flying times of today. You do your part like coming to the airport early, leave your "illegal" stuff at home, etc... and that's basically all you can do. The more you complain, the more time airlines will be spending on resolving your complain, instead of getting you to your destination earlier.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4535 times:



Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 17):
Every year it is the standard story about increased delays around Thanksgiving due to "demand." There is no material difference in the number of flights from most other non-holiday periods, still less than the typical number of flights operated during the airlines' peak summer schedules.

The problem with your statement is that you appear to be just considering airline traffic, to the exclusion of other IFR traffic. I can assure you that nearly every bigwig with a personal or corporate bizjet has travel plans for the major "getaway" airports, Florida and Colorado destinations to name but a few. Try a search for Snowbirds" or check with Sid R. @ MSPDD.

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 19):
Like OPNLguy, Fxra, and others in the camp of "I can't wait to see how many people miss their thanksgivings because of this stupid plan", are just simply excited by seeing people angry, miserable and upset for purely political agenda driven purposes.

No, what I actually can't wait to see is the day when operational outsiders who don't have Clue-1 from frontline experience of how this stuff works, and should work will maybe start listening to the professionals in the trenches, without assuming that the comments and suggestions of those professionals are automatically for "purely political agenda driven purposes."

It's just damn wonderful that George has shaken some more military airspace loose, but without capacity improvements at the departure and arrival airports, it's tantamount to building a new 6-lane bridge across the river but doing nothing to expand the capacity of the 2-lane road that feeds the 6-lane bridge and feeds the traffic back into the 2-lane road on the other side of the bridge.

I'm not worried--I'm sure George understands all of it. including the fact that FAA has squandered years and billions on mis-managed projects. NextGen? Should have been here years ago...


25 Fxra : Ok I'll play. If there had been a plan in the works, it would need to b published. Airspace redesigned and redesignated on charts. New SID's and STAR
26 Post contains images OPNLguy : Ouch! (Waiting for the TWA 800-downed-by-a-missile crowd to show-up and take the thread off-topic...) The only thing I hope for (and work towards) is
27 Ikramerica : Saturday I don't think you are right. Saturday often has fewer flights in any week, but on Thanksgiving, I've seen airlines add flights. But thursday
28 AFGMEL : ROFL. Just blame err, lets see, who is left. Blame Vanuatu, it's Vanuatu that's causing delays. Seriously, it sounds like the US needs a big overhaul
29 Mir : I have to say, for the first time in a long time, the guy covering this story for CNN really knew his stuff. What a refreshing few minutes that was. -
30 FlyOakland2IAH : How much will this really help? I thought the problem was more airport/runway congestion, not airspace congestion.
31 Tennis69 : Privitizing the FAA is the simpliest and only way to turn this around and eliminate delays. The only purpose of our gov't is to guarantee and protect
32 Post contains images Jimpop : Not really "more people", just more inexperienced traveling people. Seasoned travelers know what/when to avoid during holiday seasons... that leaves
33 Zippyjet : Opening those express military air lanes will surly help but, I've got an additional idea. Seems popular amongst us airline folk. Everyone else will
34 B777A340Fan : Privatizing the FAA is the WORST thing you can do! It will not take into consideration the best interest of the American people and will instead resp
35 FlyPNS1 : True, but opening up more lanes on the East Coast may help reduce the number of AFP's being put in place. As you know, these AFP's right now can caus
36 Nrcnyc : Hmm. I'm no expert, but I'm skeptical of anything helping the delay problems if we don't build more airports, more runways and more gates. It's all we
37 B777A340Fan : While I do agree more gates and runways are needed to even make a dent to this on-going problem, I think they should be built at the present airports
38 Post contains images OPNLguy : Should we be anticipating alot of AFPs in the fall/winter months of November and December? Is that even relevant to the discussion? The topic at hand
39 PSU.DTW.SCE : Aww come on, that just means you get more time to hold over BUNTS1, everyone's favorite fix!
40 FlyPNS1 : AFP's are relevant because that is where any gains from the extra military airspace would be felt. As you point out, you won't be getting any gains i
41 Post contains images AirframeAS : The airlines would then say "No problem, we'll pass on that cost to the customers!!"
42 OPNLguy : You think the need for AFPs during Thanksgiving and Christmas weeks are going to be there?
43 Boeing7E7 : Don't get the FAA apologists started man. They'll be in here talkign abotu airline overscheduling and how Southwest needs to buy 787's instead of 737
44 ADXMatt : The extra lanes will help as there will be less compression. Question: Will there be more air traffic controllers working or will be be delayed due to
45 FlyPNS1 : Maybe...obviously the weather will probably be the largest determinant of that. Last year, on the the Sunday after Thanksgiving (heavy travel day), t
46 Fxra : Take today for example, the only current AFP I see is for Cabo. However, JFK is on a GDP averaging 54 minute delays. Theres no enroute issues, and th
47 Post contains images OPNLguy : I'd have to agree. It's almost an "iPhone" kind of fix, i.e. hold a press conference that over-simplifies some aspects and that ignores others. Freed
48 SPREE34 : How are Denied Boarding and Delays related? Resign. This is such BS. This space is opened up on a regular basis. The military does not use it 24 hrs
49 Falcon84 : I presume that's sarcasm And this is for INVOLUNTARY denied boarding compensation, not when we get volunteers. And that doesn't happen all that much.
50 ADXMatt : As alot have stated already that the arrival rate is an issue that opening up more airways will not solve. Lets look at enroute holding due to compres
51 SPREE34 : Are you talking about compression on the descent? If so, new routes won't mean anything. At a constant indicated airspeed in the descent compression
52 SkyexRamper : How can Pres. Bush possibly understand airline delays? He gets airports and airspace shut down just for him. You can't have delays when 30nm areas are
53 ZTagged : The last time Bush took something on, he nearly choked to death on it. Good on him for trying to get delays fixed, but it's just not able to happen. T
54 Post contains links Cjpark : My favorite part of the plan is the part where the President expects the airlines to be responsible for managing delays and to provide resources to ha
55 SkyexRamper : Why doesn't the FAA just make all Class B and super busy Class C airspace slot controlled for both airlines and general aviation. Get the traffic to a
56 SPREE34 : Unnecessary, over restrictive, and would be fought in the courts by several groups. Blocking the airspace from users not contributing to the back up
57 Mir : Probably there will be more controllers working mandatory overtime, on top of the mandatory overtime they already work. The FAA can only keep pushing
58 SPREE34 : They (FAA) are, and it will.
59 Post contains images Tercer : Haven't you figured out yet that the operational outsiders obviously know more than the rest of us that actually deal with this on a day to day basis
60 Post contains images OPNLguy : Holiday Inn Express must be doing one hell of a business... In the future, I think we'll look back on the 2000-2010 decade as the one of supposed sel
61 Cjpark : Those operational outsiders are your customers who deal with your indifference daily. Somehow I don't see the airlines asking the President or even Co
62 Post contains links and images OPNLguy : And now, the anatomy of the response to a spinster: True, and their patronage is appreciated... ...while the "indifference" is your chosen attribute
63 SPREE34 : Would those customers be so quick as to let outsiders have a chance at running their own businesses? Not likely. Since when does being a customer, of
64 Post contains images Aarbee : And where will the airlines get the extra planes ??? From - (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/11/20071115-6.html)
65 Post contains images OPNLguy : Silly! They're being ferried in from Area 51 and MHV as we speak. I mean, all they had to do was wash the dust off them and they were immediately rea
66 Post contains images Brilondon : The chances of this happening are between none and "are you kidding me!" Happy Thanksgiving to all our U.S. A-nutter brothers.
67 Tercer : To save my fingers the typing and keep it simple, unless you have worked in an airline control center or airport environment you really have zero clu
68 RDUDDJI : For the record, I am not against privatizing ATC, I think the FAA has mismanaged the ATC system for decades, i.e. the "do nothing" approach to increas
69 Cjpark : Why in your wildest imagination think that your customers do not care or want to know why their flights are late? Yes we are concerned when flights a
70 SPREE34 : Still sore about Wright? As for the duplicate ATC, It's just BS. I used to work the area. DAL is no more duplicated ATC than Addison, Redbird (Dal Ex
71 JoeCanuck : I thought we'd all figured out by now that most of the delays are cause by unrealistic schedules and by weather. The ATC system in the states is doing
72 SPREE34 : While I generally am against added govt regulations, I think you have a valid point here. There is another side the passengers need to see as well. I
73 Post contains links and images Tercer : The last thing the FAA needs is more funds, how much more tax dollars do you want to piss away in the incredibly slow bureaucracy of the FAA??? The o
74 JoeCanuck : Considering the Boyd Group is a mouthpiece for the airlines, it's not surprising that they would cast NO blame whatsoever on their heads. They are pai
75 Post contains images Mirrodie : As I said earlier in your other thread, between the iphone commercials and opening military airways, the smoke and mirrors have the public thinking i
76 Tercer : If you really are a private pilot then your stance against airlines makes sense in today’s environment when airlines are calling for the GA communi
77 Post contains links Cjpark : Tercer for the most part the FAA is funded by user fees. That is Airlines, GA both pay fees to the agency for each and every flight. I-Phones? Weathe
78 JoeCanuck : Please...how many GA flights are in and out of the 10 biggest airports in the US? The majority of the delays come at, or around, airports...not en ro
79 Post contains images RDUDDJI : This is getting ridiculous. The last few posters seem to think fining the airlines will fix our NAS. As I mentioned in another thread, that only fixes
80 Post contains links JoeCanuck : Ultimately, all these planes are going to the same spot. The airports can only handle so much traffic. All it takes is a plane or two diverted and all
81 Tercer : Hmmmmm, So what is it exactly you are trying to get across here??? How about you do it, put a nice report together then come back to prove yourself r
82 JoeCanuck : Too subtle...? It was implicit by your blaming everyone but the airlines. And yet, the delays continue...thank goodness for real experts.
83 SkyexRamper : You can on Weatherunderground.com or you could look up weather via the A.D.D.S weather site.
84 SPREE34 : Refreshing. They don't ensure the assets are in place to do business. (Gates, available runway, infrastructure in general) I can't think of any other
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