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AA Eagle To Fly MIA-TLH  
User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5769 times:

Effective 3/2/08 American Eagle will begin 2x daily RJ MIA-TLH

MIA-TLH 0715-0845
MIA -TLH 1610-1740

TLH-MIA 0910-1030
TLH-MIA 1805-1925

I was expecting service to TLH, but I am surprised MIA-PNS did not come first as there would be lower start up costs for AA at PNS.

DL is also on the route with 2x daily RJ. Although they have the route established, AA and the MIA hub will really give them a run for their money.

Right now the fares in the market are really high. I remember Eagle pulling off the route (about 1996?). Air South was flying it for $25.00 each way which they promoted on billboards along Lejeune Road.

AJMIA


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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2679 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5745 times:

One more Florida city connected to MIA on AE. I'm surprised they're not using the ATR, like on JAX. Is it out of range? Now if they can just add MIA-DAB  gnasher . I'd like it on an ERJ, please. Add that to JFK-DAB and ORD-DAB. Wishful thinking, eh?  Smile

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5739 times:

Awesome news, it's about time.

Quoting AJMIA (Thread starter):
DL is also on the route with 2x daily RJ. Although they have the route established, AA and the MIA hub will really give them a run for their money.

DL and AA should be able to co-exist quite well, especially, as you said, given Delta's establishment in the TLH market, not just from MIA, but MCO, TPA, and FLL. Also, small correction, but Delta Connection has three daily flights (except Saturdays), and is adding a fourth daily flights this winter.

Quoting AJMIA (Thread starter):

I was expecting service to TLH, but I am surprised MIA-PNS did not come first as there would be lower start up costs for AA at PNS.

A daily MIA-PNS flight, with a schedule very similar to the new MIA-SAV flights, should be launching in 2008, as well as a daily MIA-VPS flight. They are also looking at 2x MIA-APF and 1x MIA-MTH.

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 1):
I'm surprised they're not using the ATR, like on JAX. Is it out of range?

It is easily within the range, but this is strictly a business market with Delta Connection offering competing jet service. ATRs will not work here.

[Edited 2007-11-17 18:44:01]


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User currently offlineCitrusCritter From Pitcairn Islands, joined May 2007, 1104 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Quoting AJMIA (Thread starter):
AA and the MIA hub will really give them a run for their money.

They should co-exist fine. Delta has a lot of TLH originating passengers who also use their services to other cities in the state.

What I'd like to see is TLH-DCA on DL* or US*, or TLH-IAD on UA*. TLH and PNS are both in need of direct flights to Washington.

[Edited 2007-11-17 18:53:52]


TLH
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5706 times:

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 3):
Quoting AJMIA (Thread starter):
AA and the MIA hub will really give them a run for their money.

They should co-exist fine. Delta has a lot of TLH originating passengers who also use their services to other cities in the state.

Correct. A lot of Tallahassee-based flyers are loyal to Delta and won't switch. Where you will see switching is with Miami-based flyers. This market is fine for two airlines, just like CO and DL compete just fine on MCO/TPA-TLH.

[Edited 2007-11-17 18:54:15]


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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11640 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5671 times:

Yeah!

That's awesome news - a route that, as others have said, was a long time coming. Now I'm holding my fingers crossed for 2x daily TLH-DFW. I can dream, can't I?!  Smile


User currently offlineDoug From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 854 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5631 times:

Keep connecting the dots I wonder if AA will reconsider the 2 gate proposal for American Eagle in the north terminal with around 30 rj flights with more to come I just thought that 8-10 gates would be appropiate.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5614 times:



Quoting Doug (Reply 6):
Keep connecting the dots I wonder if AA will reconsider the 2 gate proposal for American Eagle in the north terminal with around 30 rj flights with more to come I just thought that 8-10 gates would be appropiate.

The "gates" will work similar to the D35 gate, just without buses. They will still be able to park a good amount of RJs and ATRs at one time. So at any given time, more than a dozen planes can be parked and waiting.



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User currently offlineKingCavalier From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 1306 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5582 times:

Eagle used to fly a SF3 3 times a day VPS-TLH-MIA back in 1991 when they opened VPS.


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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4471 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5568 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
The "gates" will work similar to the D35 gate, just without buses.

Can you elaborate a bit on this? Are there plans for the AA RJs at MIA to be boarded from gates other than the current D35 gate? Will the pax have to walk to the plane? I suppose a jetway is too much to hope for!


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5560 times:



Quoting N62NA (Reply 9):
Can you elaborate a bit on this? Are there plans for the AA RJs at MIA to be boarded from gates other than the current D35 gate? Will the pax have to walk to the plane? I suppose a jetway is too much to hope for!

Pax will walk to the plane, just like Delta Connection ATRs board (or used to board?) at ATL.



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User currently offlineMiAAmi From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5482 times:



Quoting N62NA (Reply 9):
Can you elaborate a bit on this? Are there plans for the AA RJs at MIA to be boarded from gates other than the current D35 gate? Will the pax have to walk to the plane? I suppose a jetway is too much to hope for!

Are they replacing Eagles D35 with something new? Its a horribly cramped space. Hopefully there are plans for a new area for Eagle to board out of.


User currently offlineDoug From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 854 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5445 times:

The intial north terminal plans called for 20 American Eagle gates

User currently offlineAA 777 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 808 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5441 times:
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Awesome news! Any chance on DAB service from MIA anytime soon Mark?


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5332 times:



Quoting MiAAmi (Reply 11):
Are they replacing Eagles D35 with something new? Its a horribly cramped space. Hopefully there are plans for a new area for Eagle to board out of.

There will be two gates added at the end of the current D councourse. Each will operate just like D35, with multiple flights at each, except that instead of boarding a bus, passengers will be able to walk right onto the plane.

Quoting Doug (Reply 12):
The intial north terminal plans called for 20 American Eagle gates

Indeed. The design of the building, however, will allow AA to add-on regional jet gates if they decide to.

Quoting AA 777 (Reply 13):
Awesome news! Any chance on DAB service from MIA anytime soon Mark?

DAB and MLB were looked at about two years ago. The problem is that the ATRs are too big. If they had 19-30 seaters, then it would be an almost sure thing. That is also why they are iffy about returning to APF and MTH, but both are looking like good possibilities. Also, in addition to using ATRs to PNS and VPS, they are strongly considering daily ATR service to GPT and MOB.

Totally irrelevant to the topic, but another schedule change coming is that the MIA-XNA service is being entirely retimed to connect to/from South America redeyes, which I found interesting.



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User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5164 times:



Quoting AJMIA (Thread starter):
I was expecting service to TLH, but I am surprised MIA-PNS did not come first as there would be lower start up costs for AA at PNS.

I'm surprised also. AA doesn't currently fly into TLH. Where is the "official" press release? Nothing on the schedules at aa.com


User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2306 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5143 times:

Kind of surprised a little bit about this, I always thought we'd see TLH-DFW first before TLH-MIA, although good to see TLH in the AA network.

User currently offlineAkizidy214 From Jamaica, joined Sep 2006, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5065 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):
Totally irrelevant to the topic, but another schedule change coming is that the MIA-XNA service is being entirely retimed to connect to/from South America redeyes, which I found interesting.

Can we say bombreco??



DCA
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5027 times:



Quoting Akizidy214 (Reply 17):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):
Totally irrelevant to the topic, but another schedule change coming is that the MIA-XNA service is being entirely retimed to connect to/from South America redeyes, which I found interesting.

Can we say bombreco??

Possibly. The change in times was made at the request of Wal*Mart, obviously.



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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6608 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5002 times:



Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 15):
I'm surprised also. AA doesn't currently fly into TLH. Where is the "official" press release? Nothing on the schedules at aa.com

I'm not totally surprised as TLH has far stronger demand for service to South Florida than PNS. The official press release should come sometime this week. It hasn't been loaded on AA.com, but it's available through over GDS (e.g. Expedia has it).

Quoting CIDFlyer (Reply 16):
Kind of surprised a little bit about this, I always thought we'd see TLH-DFW first before TLH-MIA, although good to see TLH in the AA network.

TLH has much stronger demand for intra-state service, than they do western service. I'm not saying TLH-DFW will never happen, but doing MIA first makes sense. TLH-MIA should produce much better yields than TLH-DFW ever will.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4976 times:



Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 19):
TLH has much stronger demand for intra-state service, than they do western service. I'm not saying TLH-DFW will never happen, but doing MIA first makes sense. TLH-MIA should produce much better yields than TLH-DFW ever will.

Definitely, though I think there is a very strong chance DFW-TLH and third MIA-TLH will arrive by the end of 2008 as long as the initial service does well. And who knows, maybe they'll throw in an ORD flight like VPS/ORD/MOB/GPT all got.



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User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4915 times:

It would be great to see MIA-DAB!!

User currently offlineCitrusCritter From Pitcairn Islands, joined May 2007, 1104 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4891 times:

Other than DOT for a slot exception, who's a man got to bribe to get a DCA flight? Heck, forego the DOT and give me an IAD flight.


TLH
User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8544 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4874 times:



Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 3):
TLH and PNS are both in need of direct flights to Washington.

Didn't US serve PNS-DCA recently?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4874 times:



Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 22):
Other than DOT for a slot exception, who's a man got to bribe to get a DCA flight? Heck, forego the DOT and give me an IAD flight.

I'm just shocked that DL or US haven't started this route. This is the fourth most populous state in the union! And it isn't like they need a DOT slot exception. They can fly the route with their current slots.

Who knows, maybe American Eagle will surprise us...



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25 ATLgaUSA : Are we ever going to see BHM-MIA?
26 CIDflyer : I know they applied for the route, but I don't know what ever became about it. I don't think it was started.
27 ElmoTheHobo : It's too bad that American doesn't have a good Southeast hub a la Memphis, Atlanta or Charlotte, though they are doing a lot of good work connecting t
28 Akizidy214 : Strong possibility once the scope clause issue is worked out with the APA. This would also be a real nice additon the Flordia network. If it were to
29 CIDflyer : too bad they still didn't have the RDU hub for this purpose, geographically it was great for northeast to southeast connections. MIA is great for the
30 FlyPNS1 : When slots have come available at DCA, US has applied twice for DCA-PNS, but lost to other competing bids. Someday it will happen, but not fast enoug
31 MAH4546 : Yes, we are. No, I'm not. I know of no plans for AA to start TLH-DCA. Though if they served the combo MIA and DCA, they could become a favorite of po
32 Flighty : Fair enough. Even though it is a smaller market, maybe DCA-TLH would have a larger chance of "political" success in the slot awards. Guessing so. The
33 CitrusCritter : US applied for PNS-DCA the last time the DOT awarded a slot exemption. FL won for their bid on ATL-DCA. Obviously the DOT prefers low-fare mainline s
34 MAH4546 : They do, but that was likely not the primary factor here. US Airways holds 100+ slots at DCA. If they want to start PNS-DCA, all they have to do is r
35 CitrusCritter : Sure, DCA > BWI and DCA > IAD, but BWI > IAD. There's not really much difference if the person in question is renting a car/has a driver, and the pub
36 FlyPNS1 : Actually, DL cut this route not too long ago. I believe they used the slot to up BOS-DCA back to 7x daily. There isn' t as much traffic as you think.
37 MAH4546 : O&D is 125 daily to IAD/DCA, plus 43 to BWI. Definitley can handle a daily RJ, IMO, though you do bring up a true point.
38 LXA340 : btw: what's the longest flight American Ealge has and how long is it?
39 Commavia : I believe it's XNA-LAX, 1371 mi, blocked at 3:30, on the CRJ700.
40 Post contains links MAH4546 : Officially official: http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...es/prnewswire/LAM09619112007-1.htm Tallahassee media: http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs
41 CIDflyer : I had to chuckle at that one! TLH has always been "one stop away from the world" via ATL. Don't know how they confused MIA with ATL.
42 AJMIA : So Florida Eagle service that once was but now is missing from MIA... MIA-PBI = Short route and with only one daily mainline to DFW I doubt we will s
43 MAH4546 : PBI also has mainline to LGA and ORD during the winter. We won't see it back, because the ATRs are too big. If Eagle had 19-30 seat props in MIA, I b
44 CitrusCritter : Any chance of seeing anything to PFN, GNV, or OCF? I'm surprised OCF hasn't gotten 3M service, though that could be because of it siphoning pax off th
45 MAH4546 : I would say no. PFN is close enough to VPS/PNS, that AA doesn't need to go there. A few years ago, AA was close at starting service to GNV - 1x daily
46 Azul320 : Interesting TLH-MIA. Is this really good news for TLH, or just more of the same? Is AA planning to gouge passengers with more egregiously high fares t
47 MAH4546 : Gouging? If it were gouging, then people wouldn't pay it. Prices in intra-Florida markets from TLH are high because the market supports it. Airlines
48 AJMIA : Why has AA drawn down MIA-NAS so much? The flights are packed. The standby lists are long and a lot of would be passengers are spilling over to UP. I
49 Post contains images Azul320 : I wouldn't pay what DL or Gulfstream asks for on that route so I drive up to Tallahassee from Miami 3 times a month, I am sure there are thousands ju
50 NA747 : [quote=AJMIA,reply=48]daily 737s over to NAS. That would free up the ATRs for othter routes in the Bahamas, Florida... I have long felt the same way,
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