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Is Air Berlin A Take-over Candidate?

Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26
Posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

With it's share-price falling from 21 Euros to 10 Euros in just five months,Air Berlin seems an ideal take-over target.
All financially interested analyst's know about the weak cash-flow and EBIT-data of Air Berlin.SO who could be potentially interested in Air Berlin ?
Air France ?

[Edited 2007-11-19 12:00:11]

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CRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1607 times:

Ha, I think a huge reason for the fall is the introduction of LTU. Is it a take over canindate? I doubt it as it doesn't add much value to the traditional hub and spoke system. It does have its advantages as it has no unions.

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LifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1880 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Rumours are getting stronger that AF-KLM isn't going forward with IB or AZ because it fears to much opposition from the EU. There were, however, some rumours about AF-KLM looking seriously at Air Berlin. Now that Air Berlin has bought Balair, LTU and is on the brink of buying Condor as well, Air Berlin could be the needed break trough for the German market.

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EXTspotter From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

AB has bitten off more than it can chew with LTU and they are finding it hard to manage the differences in the way the seperate entities work.

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Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

To me it looks like a very confusing way of running the airline-rather than focus on one segment,Hunold wants a little bit of everything-a little charter,a little low-cost,a little hub and spoke ,a little intercontinental..
Clearly the eyes too big and not enough cash,neither any consolidation.

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CRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

I think he wants to be a non-union LH. Pretty much a hub and spoke airline with a LCC and Leisure division.

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PADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1386 times:

A blocking minority of about 35% of AB is hold by a small circle of private entrepreneurs that are all very close to Joachim Hunold. There will be definitely no take-over against the will of those stakeholder or management.

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Haggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

Quoting CRGsFuture (Reply 5):
I think he wants to be a non-union LH. Pretty much a hub and spoke airline with a LCC and Leisure division.

but then he should separate these brands from one another, I'd say... similar as LH with Germanwings and Condor had it, he could do it like "LTU" being the hub-and-spoke brand and "Air Berlin" doing the lo-co and leisure part... I agree, he's trying too much at a time...

don't know if AFKL are really interested, though... to me it seems they cover the German market quite well through their respective hubs.... so the only thing they'd gain would be intra-German traffic (mainly ex-DBA routes). Don't think they are that much interested in flying German tourists to "Malle"....

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A342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4655 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1156 times:

Just for your information, they recently accpedted unions. LTU and DBA had them, so AB was forced to accept them.

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JFK787NYC From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1121 times:

For 600 Million EURO it is definetly work it's money. That is chump change for AF-KLM, They will be able to get a hub in a Germany.

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