To quote the article:
"A new El Paso International Airport initiative is designed to add more non-stop flights to fly out of the facility, and that could mean lower prices for passengers, officials said Monday.
The measure has been placed the agenda at Tuesday's City Council meeting.
Passengers may not have to leave their seats when flying to certain destinations if the item is approved. An incentive to the various carriers: those which start a new non-stop service out of El Paso will not have to pay landing fees for 90 days."
So, the city council thinks that this will get major airlines to start hubbing at ELP? I don't think WN will bite on this one, either...Maybe ExpressJet will take the airport up on this one.
Does this reach new depths of lowness in the annals of airport management?
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Iflyswa From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2010 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Thread starter): Does this reach new depths of lowness in the annals of airport management?
Nope. I'm sure several airports are offering similar incentives. I know GRR has been offering 90 days no landing fees for new nonstop service to markets not presently served by carriers at GRR for some time according to Brian Picardat A.A.E., Director of Finance and Administration at GRR. To date, carriers have not responded with service to new markets.
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ATCGOD From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 658 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1777 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Thread starter): "A new El Paso International Airport initiative is designed to add more non-stop flights to fly out of the facility, and that could mean lower prices for passengers, officials said Monday.
Not a terrible idea considering they have lost a lot of traffic to the airport since 9/11. They're one of the few still struggling to get back to pre-9/11 levels of traffic according to their air traffic manager.
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5932 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1765 times:
Quoting Davescj (Reply 4): ELP isn't a bad airport, but it can't seriously think of itself as a hub.
The facilities aren't designed for that. There's not nearly enough gates, and not nearly enough runway capacity...before someone says "Three Runways", remember one of them is GA-only...
Quoting Davescj (Reply 4): The city simply isn't big enough.
Probably not to generatre the kind of O&D numbers that carriers would like to see for a hub, no...but the metro area is often quoted at over 2.5 million (remember, it also services 1.5 million people across the border, which no "official" census or anything is ever going to show...).
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KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5932 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1757 times:
Quoting ATCGOD (Reply 5): Not a terrible idea considering they have lost a lot of traffic to the airport since 9/11. They're one of the few still struggling to get back to pre-9/11 levels of traffic according to their air traffic manager.
But I don't think any majors, barring perhaps WN, is going to pass up any hubs for non-stops to ELP. I don't forsee UA beginning IAD-ELP or SFO-ELP or LAX-ELP for example...heck, they don't even service DEN-ELP on mainline equipment
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Prinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 744 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1590 times:
Good incentive. If they could only remove the morons running the airport they would probably see their situation improve.
As far as UA @ ELP.... IAD and ORD nonstops as well as UA mainline service is being considered. ELP is an ZW ground handled station and the contract is currently being considered for renewal.
Frontierflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 207 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1578 times:
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 7): Ive often though maybe UA or AA should do LAX-ELP
We could sure use some competition, WN is asking over 500.00 for a last minute ticket these days.
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 9): It would be a bloodbath for them, as WN already has very established market loyalty on that route (going back to 1980!).
You're absolutely right, they have some loyal weekly fliers on that route. AA or UA would have to beat them on price and frequency to make any dent. I don't think CRJ's would work either just ask x-jet.
Frontierflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 207 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1537 times:
[quote=ModernArt,reply=15]If United were to start LAX and/or SFO flights, you can almost guarantee that it will be on a CRJ.
Just about anywhere they fly now is on a regional jet.
FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3172 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1425 times:
Good for ELP. It's always good to offer incentives to stimulate demand...
Here at FWA, they're offering waived landing fees for 2 years to new entrant carriers, 1 year for existing carriers adding new routes, and 6 months for existing carriers adding frequencies. The incentives are going to expire sometime next year, but I hear that they might start new ones because pax traffic is going up fast and they wwant the momentum to continue.
These incentives are why G4 came into the market, and also why MQ boosted FWA-ORD from 4x daily to 5x daily. (Oddly enough, no carrier has taken advantage of the existing carrier adding a new route incentive yet... I would have thought that UAX would have added FWA-DEN or FWA-IAD by now.)