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Airbus Poised To Launch A320 P2F Conversion  
User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9031 posts, RR: 75
Posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

from http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...a320-p2f-conversion-programme.html

"Airbus expects to finalise the first firm contract for its A320 passenger to freighter (P2F) modification in December, ahead of a formal programme launch in January."

Data from Airbus :

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/thezeke/A320/2b791026.png
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/thezeke/A320/7910ccbe.png


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User currently offlineFLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

I'm wondering which airline will be the launch customer? DHL would be my guess to replace their mixed fleet of DC-9s, 727s and older 757s.

User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4240 times:

I admit that when I think of freighters, I'm thinking wide-bodies. This project looks like a sure winner to me. Are there any estimates of the total market?

Quoting FLALEFTY (Reply 1):
DHL would be my guess to replace their mixed fleet of DC-9s, 727s and older 757s.

Aren't the 727s and 757s considerably large than the A321?

Edit: found the link to answer my question!

Quote:
“With a prospering airfreight market worldwide we experience a high demand for the conversion of passenger aircraft into cargo versions. We anticipate about 400 Airbus Single Aisle aircraft to be converted from 2010 to 2025”, said Dr. Andreas Sperl President and CEO of EADS EFW.

http://www.eads.net/1024/en/pressdb/...0822_eads_efw_maks_freighters.html

[Edited 2007-11-21 14:38:32]


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3841 times:

Interesting to note how it compares with the B752SF & B752PCF.
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User currently offlineSh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3780 times:

This may be a dumb question, but what are the best areas of the world for, and routes for A320 range air freight operations? And also , would those routes be more economically served by bigger freighters? Just asking.

User currently offlineSeabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5410 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3739 times:

Interesting. The A320 conversions make a lot of sense. I'm a bit curious about the A321 conversions, though. The A321 was optimized for high passenger capacity and its payload/volume ratio is not that high. It seems at first glance like an A321F would work only for package carriers. Perhaps that is the intended market...

I notice the data charts don't say anything about payload! (Or OEW, with which we could calculate payload by subtracting OEW from MZFW.) Zeke, do you have payload numbers for these two frames?


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12138 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3720 times:



Quoting Sh0rtybr0wn (Reply 4):
but what are the best areas of the world for, and routes for A320 range air freight operations? And also , would those routes be more economically served by bigger freighters?

I think the 23t A-320CF and 28t A-321CF would work very well in the 800nm-1200nm range missions, which fits into the US market for most over night FedEx and UPS destinations. That frees up the B-757F/PF for missions beyond 1500nm.

The only competitors I see to the A-320F/A-321F program is the B-737-300F/-400F conversions.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):
Interesting to note how it compares with the B752SF & B752PCF.

The B-757F carries more weight, and cubes, and has more range. It will be used on different missions, and is not a direct competitor to the A-321F.


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

Some months ago i opened a thread about A320F.

At that time Air&Cosmos wrote Airbus HAS ALREADY the first customer for the A320F.It is a LARGE order , but Airbus didn't reveal the name.So this name will probably known in December.

Referring to Air&Cosmos , quite many airlines are lined up to get A320Fs.


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