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User currently offlineMissourifarmer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 42 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9506 times:

Hello all,

First, I would like to say this is my first forum post but have been an avid reader of Airliners.net forums for the last year and a half.

I am located in Kansas City, Missouri and love our small International airport (MCI). The only problem is, being located in the middle of the country, all domestic flights out of MCI to anywhere in the U.S. are relatively short and flown by twin engine, single isle aircraft. I have flown a total of 43 domestic flights to 15 different airports and the largest aircraft that I have ever flown on was the 757-200 (UA flight from MCI to DEN). My dream is to ultimately fly on a 747, 777, A380 or A340, but I would settle for a ride on an 767, A330 or any other wide body aircraft. I don't have my passport nor the cash to fly an over seas or out of country trip. Should I just call an airline that flies widebody aircraft on the telephone to see if they fly any domestic trips? Your thoughts and suggestions are greatly appreciated!!! Thanks

Dave


"Pain is just weakness leaving the body!"
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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9490 times:



Quoting Missourifarmer (Thread starter):
n the middle of the country, all domestic flights out of MCI to anywhere in the U.S. are relatively short and flown by twin engine, single isle aircraft. I have flown a total of 43 domestic flights to 15 different airports and the largest aircraft that I have ever flown on was the 757-200 (UA flight from MCI to DEN). My dream is to ultimately fly on a 747, 777, A380 or A340, but I would settle for a ride on an 767, A330 or any other wide body aircraft. I don't have my passport nor the cash to fly an over seas or out of country trip. Should I just call an airline that flies widebody aircraft on the telephone to see if they fly any domestic trips? Your thoughts and suggestions are greatly appreciated!!! Thanks

UA flies its 767 and 777(I think), between its hubs during busy periods. AA flies their 777 on ORD-DFW and MIA-DFW. DL flies the 767s between ATL and the west coast and to major buisness markets, CO flies their widebodies(767, 777) mainly between IAH and EWR.


User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9473 times:

Well, although I certainly would suggest getting a passport and saving money for an overseas trip (not only for flying on a widebody, it also helps to broaden one's perspective to the world if one actually sees other parts of it. I certainly can tell about that  Smile), there are quite a lot of carriers which still run widebodies domestically on certain routes...

there's DL with their 767 flights SLC-ATL, SLC-HNL, LAX-HNL, ATL-HNL, ATL-MCO and ATL-JFK and ATL-LAX on the 777 to start with. Hawaiian has quite a number of 767s as well which they run between the west coast and HNL mainly, IIRC. I think there's also UA having a few widebody domestic flights (stuff like LAX-ORD). Not too sure about NW, but they might have something like SEA-MSP or SEA-DTW on a A330... so there's plenty of opportunity.

But still: flying intercontinentally is a totally different experience - certainly something not to be missed, IMHO.



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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9464 times:

Delta offers many domestic widebody fights ... in fact, I just booked one for my father - TPA-ATL (for $195) on a 767-400ER, which is Internationally configured and has seat-back TVs. There are lots of DL 767s thrown on the ATL-West Coast routes, and there's even a 777 that flies between ATL and JFK.

I know US also flies 767s around the States, and probably some other airlines as well. Just look around on different airlines' flight schedules - there are plenty of widebodies still doing relatively short flights.


edit: looks like COERJ145 and Haggis79 beat me to it!  Wink
Oh, and welcome to the forums.

[Edited 2007-11-21 19:22:50]


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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9464 times:

Your best bet would be AA, MCI-ORD-xxx. You could go to MIA, DFW, LAX, etc.


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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3242 posts, RR: 45
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9422 times:

First off, Dave, welcome to a.net! We're glad to have you!!!!  Smile

You missed out back when AA flew 763s from DFW-MCI not too long ago. I think AA did maintenance on them up there. I would say this was probably 4-5 years ago. I believe it was a continuation of AA 79 from LGW-DFW.

Secondly, there are many, many widebody opportunities in the States.

For example:

AA flies a 777 between DFW-ORD. 1 daily as a stopover for Heathrow. I believe it's now AA 86 DFW-ORD-LHR. The return in AA 67 LHR-ORD-DFW.

AA also flies 777s between DFW-MIA and back, as well as 1 daily between LAX-MIA.

AA also flies numerous 767s domestically, including DFW-LAX, ORD-LAX (IIRC), ORD-MIA, DFW-MIA, LAX-JFK, SFO-JFK, and JFK-MIA.

AA flies the A300 between JFK-MIA.

United also offers many widebody opportunities domestically.

777s are rampant between DEN-IAD/SFO/ORD.

For example, today (Nov. 21st), there were:

4 777s, 2 767s between DEN-ORD
1 777, 1 763 between DEN-SFO
1 777 between DEN-IAD

4 763s between IAD-ORD
1 777, 1 763 between IAD-LAX
3 763s between IAD-SFO.

2 777s, 2 763s between ORD-SFO
2 763s between ORD-LAX

Delta, as well, offers lots of widebody opportunities out of ATL (also for today)

4 763s, 4 764s, 1 777 between ATL-LAX
4 763s, 3 764s between ATL-MCO
1 763 between ATL-LGA
2 763s, 1 777 between ATL-JFK
1 763, 2 764s between ATL-FLL
2 764s between ATL-SLC
2 763s between ATL-JAX
2 764s between ATL-TPA
3 763s between ATL-SAN
2 763s between ATL-SEA
3 763s between ATL-SFO

Good luck finding one! They're not that hard to come by!!! Just gotta know where to look. I highly recommend going to the airlines' websites and downloading their electronic timetable. You'll know where to look after you look through them.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineMissourifarmer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9398 times:



Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 2):
Well, although I certainly would suggest getting a passport and saving money for an overseas trip (not only for flying on a widebody, it also helps to broaden one's perspective to the world if one actually sees other parts of it. I certainly can tell about that

I do plan on eventually traveling to other countries but that will probably have to wait till my newborn son is old enough to enjoy the family vacations!!!  Smile

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 3):
Delta offers many domestic widebody fights ... in fact, I just booked one for my father - TPA-ATL (for $195) on a 767-400ER

I had no idea airlines flew large aircraft such short distance like this in the U.S.! Are those flights usually full?



"Pain is just weakness leaving the body!"
User currently offlineMissourifarmer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9371 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5):
Just gotta know where to look. I highly recommend going to the airlines' websites and downloading their electronic timetable

Thanks so much! I was going to ask you if there was a web site that showed you the information you just gave me! I will go to Delta, AA and United and download their timetables now.



"Pain is just weakness leaving the body!"
User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3242 posts, RR: 45
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9329 times:

Quoting Missourifarmer (Reply 7):
Thanks so much! I was going to ask you if there was a web site that showed you the information you just gave me! I will go to Delta, AA and United and download their timetables now.

You're most welcome!

Dave,

If you were interesting in just doing like a daytrip, any itinerary MCI-DFW-ORD-DFW-MCI could get you two 777s in one day. I searched a random weekday in February and came up with a fare of $396. If you just wanted to do one, you could do MCI-DFW-ORD-MCI for $293.

Good luck!

Cheers,
Cameron

Now the real question is, are you a Kansas fan or Missouri fan this weekend?  Wink

[Edited 2007-11-21 19:53:50]

User currently offlineMissourifarmer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9309 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 8):
Now the real question is, are you a Kansas fan or Missouri fan this weekend?

KU. If I said MU my wife would start throwin stuff at me. She works for KU!!!  duck 



"Pain is just weakness leaving the body!"
User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9303 times:



Quoting Missourifarmer (Reply 9):
KU. If I said MU my wife would start throwin stuff at me. She works for KU!!! duck

What kind of proper Missourian are you?  Wink



PHX based
User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2230 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9241 times:

I remember seeing a TW L-1011 at MCI in the mid 90's, those were the days... but I digress. Personally, I would do MCI-ORD-DEN/DFW, with UA and AA respectively. This will guarantee either a 777 or 767. You could knock off two types by doing a ORD-DEN-ORD roundtrip, 777 one way, 767 the other. By chance, I was able to catch a brand new 772 on a DEN-ORD leg, connecting from TUS in 2000. Let me tell you, it's quite a ride and it beats a 752!


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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8985 times:

So who was the last operator of domestic B747 in the US? DC-10? MD-11?

User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8901 times:

Is this good enough? 777 on both ways between DEN and SFO!

Price per adult USD 313.60
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701
SE14NNX
Depart: MCI
Dec 6 03:59 PM
Arrive: DEN
Dec 6 04:42 PM Non-stop
1h 43m
Boeing 757-200
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Depart: DEN
Dec 6 07:40 PM
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Dec 6 09:20 PM Non-stop
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Dec 13 02:05 PM
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Dec 13 05:30 PM Non-stop
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User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8848 times:



Quoting 777STL (Reply 10):
What kind of proper Missourian are you?

A smart one! Last widebody I flew was a DC-10-30 with BA. That was ATL-LHR in '95.



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User currently offlinePavlovsDog From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8831 times:

I would recommend getting a cheap flight to Vegas. From there:


Phillapines Airlines A 340-300 to Vancouver (one ways from $113)

Qantas 747-400 to San Francisco (one ways from $178]

UA 772 to Denver and then back to Kansas City

As a bonus you can spend the night in three of the continent's best cities. How could your wife resist that? Canada isn't that far off. Vancouver is only 20 miles over the border.


User currently onlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5939 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8806 times:
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Quoting Missourifarmer (Thread starter):
I am located in Kansas City, Missouri and love our small International airport (MCI). The only problem is, being located in the middle of the country, all domestic flights out of MCI to anywhere in the U.S. are relatively short and flown by twin engine, single isle aircraft. I have flown a total of 43 domestic flights to 15 different airports and the largest aircraft that I have ever flown on was the 757-200 (UA flight from MCI to DEN). My dream is to ultimately fly on a 747, 777, A380 or A340, but I would settle for a ride on an 767, A330 or any other wide body aircraft. I don't have my passport nor the cash to fly an over seas or out of country trip. Should I just call an airline that flies widebody aircraft on the telephone to see if they fly any domestic trips? Your thoughts and suggestions are greatly appreciated!!! Thanks

Dave

Get in touch with me through this site and let's see what we can work out with all those FF miles I have.



MGGS
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6334 posts, RR: 39
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8790 times:



Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 15):
Qantas 747-400 to San Francisco (one ways from $178]

QF do not fly to LAS. I'm confused by this post.... Did you mean fly to Vancouver and catch flights out of there? Also to add to that, QF do not sell tickets for that leg which is currently LAX-JFK and SFO-YVR unless your final destination is NZ/Australia or your flight has originated from there, which means the following international flights AKL/SYD/MEL/BNE-LAX has to be part of the itinerary.
Is a passport required for the USA/Canada border if you're a US or Canadian citizen?

I can't believe how fortunate I am to have flown about half my flights on widebodies: 762, 763, A343, 742, 744, 77W and plenty more to come.



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlinePavlovsDog From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8752 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 17):
QF do not fly to LAS. I'm confused by this post.... Did you mean fly to Vancouver and catch flights out of there? Also to add to that, QF do not sell tickets for that leg which is currently LAX-JFK and SFO-YVR unless your final destination is NZ/Australia or your flight has originated from there, which means the following international flights AKL/SYD/MEL/BNE-LAX has to be part of the itinerary.
Is a passport required for the USA/Canada border if you're a US or Canadian citizen?

Yes. It was LAS-VYR on PR and YVR-SFO on Qantas.

According to Qantas' North American web page they do indeed sell tickets from YVR to SFO. From C$147 it says. It says nothing about conditions requring an itinerary to AUS/NZ.

Yes. He would need a passport to fly to Canada.

It may be too expensive for him when everything is taken into account but I thought it wouldn't hurt presenting to option.


User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6897 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8732 times:



Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 18):
It may be too expensive for him when everything is taken into account but I thought it wouldn't hurt presenting to option.

It sounds ideal to me. Well done with the itinerary..


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6334 posts, RR: 39
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8702 times:



Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 18):
According to Qantas' North American web page they do indeed sell tickets from YVR to SFO. From C$147 it says.

Ok sorry it only applies to their LAX-JFK flight.



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8364 times:



Quoting 57AZ (Reply 14):
A smart one! Last widebody I flew was a DC-10-30 with BA. That was ATL-LHR in '95.

KU is overrated with a soft schedule, they're gonna get annihilated.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 20):
Ok sorry it only applies to their LAX-JFK flight.

Yep, because SFO-YVR is an international flight so it doesn't fall under cabotage restrictions.



PHX based
User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8158 times:

I found a cheap option to SFO, for $236, with DEN - SFO served by 763 both ways (on UA), I picked Dec 14 - 16, and used travelocity.

User currently offlineVhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8125 times:

too late QF has recently axed the seasonal SFO-YVR tag ons.




J



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User currently offlineFlyMeToTheMoon From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7468 times:

Drive to Chicago and hop on a UA flight to IAD since they fly 767 and 777s. You can get a ticket for under $200. Here are some flights ORD - IAD (767) - UA 950/206/982 IAD - ORD (767) - UA 915/395/951. If you make it to DC drop me a line, I will meet you at the airport for a cup of coffee.


Fly me to the moon... but not through LHR!
25 Post contains images Missourifarmer : Thank you all for all the great insite and advice that you have given me (including KU v MU)   . I am going to pursue a day trip to SFO on a 777 some
26 Missourifarmer : Sorry, this might be a stupid question, but if I were to fly into Vancouver but not leave the airport (just catch another flight back to U.S.), would
27 Post contains images Jetsa : Booooooo Longhorns!!!!!!!! Fight on Trojans!
28 Post contains images Mcamargo : Right now it's just their 762 between EWR and IAH, I believe. But still a very nice aircraft
29 LHRBlueSkies : Dave, Welcome! Honestly, get a passport for you, your Missus and heir to the Missourifarmer throne, and get travelling - there is a whole world out th
30 Post contains images Starlionblue : Come to HKG and I'll spot you a beer or two. It's only 17 hours from JFK. Guaranteed widebody. kayak.com or similar sites consolidate various services
31 YULWinterSkies : Yes, otherwise they'd downsize... They sometimes use them at times of the day when they are not needed for long-haul flights, this is a way to use th
32 BillReid : Actually you may not need one as long as you have nil luggage, and specifically arrange this with the airline. Generally the airlines are subject to
33 Mauiman31 : Welcome Dave. MCI is my primary airport also for business and leisure travel. Yes, currently no scheduled wide body service direct from MCI. Just isn'
34 Post contains images Longhornmaniac : Oh dear. Somebody's still bitter. Admit it, Vince Young is a God. Oh, and something about widebodies!!!! Dave, that sounds like a lot of fun, hope yo
35 AlexEU : I think that you don't need a passport to fly to Hawaii. There are some widebodies flying to Hawaii.
36 Boeingluvr : I would suggest perhaps a low fare carrier and getting your passport. In Canada, airlines like Zoom or travel companies such as Mytravel or Thomas Coo
37 Post contains images Acidradio : Correct. Save your money, get a passport and see another country. I know, it's not the easy answer, but it's a lot more worthwhile. Anyone can hire a
38 CJAContinental : Continental I know did IAH-NWR with 777-200ER's, and sometimes a 767-400ER. I'm not sure if they still do that now, sorry if this has been posted prio
39 CJAContinental : EWR, my mistake.
40 Missourifarmer : When I flew into LAX I was just enthralled by all the widebodies. In fact after arriving at the airport my wife was ready to go to the ocean. I, on t
41 NewYorkCityBoi : well, my suggestion is, if you wait until you have enough money to fly oversea, maybe you will wait til you are old. I am a poor grad student and what
42 Xtoler : Last time I got excited on a widebody was when UA first flew them between FRA and IAD. I was so tired of the 76's, DC10(althought the KC10 was sweet w
43 ElmoTheHobo : Among the majors, United still operates domestic 747s between hubs, Northwest was the last with the DC-10 and Delta with the MD-11. World Airways, Om
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