There is an excellent webpage on the CL-44, on Cargolux's aircraft and on Icelandic aviation in General at http://www.cl44.com , but I am still looking for more technical information in addition to this one.
DeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 24 Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 3 days ago) and read 846 times:
Yeah... just ignore the posts... maybe they'll just disappear and everything will be okay.
That pic could be any a/c.
Come on Ceilidh... scan the title and reg of the aircraft, as well as a copy of your ATP while you're at it, then maybe we'll think about taking you more seriously.
OTOH, you could always doctor one up, so who knows...
DeltaSFO
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Bikeman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 844 times:
Email me for gen, I'll see what I can rustle up.
I was the engineer responsible for getting the last bird out of GSO at the end of '99.
Lots on the website with regards to the surviving airframes is not correct, some of it deliberatly so.
Ignore that plonker Ceilidh, you can get better info out of plane-spotter's books than from him.
Patroni From Luxembourg, joined Aug 1999, 1403 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 828 times:
CEILIDH,
>>I have part-ownership in the last two CL44s; both of >>which are currently in Kinshasa. They were acquired >>from Tradewinds a couple of years back.
>>Email me with the information you're looking for and >>I'll see what we can do. "
Thanks for your kind offer! In the first place I would be interested if you could send me a scan of the Aircraft Operating Manual showing the dimensions of the CL-44, also a speed table would be appreciated.
Bikeman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 800 times:
Check your own info that you've given in the past on the CL44. Duh. You've only given info you've got second hand from Mike or from a plane-spotter's mag.
Stop claiming credit for things you haven't done.
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3191 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 791 times:
I remember 2 CL-44s in Kinshasa were destroyed by fire in a hangar there last year. The enormously destructive airport fire also claimed a Caravelle and a 707. Were those the 2 planes that came from Tradewinds? Additionally, does anybody know how many of them still exist (the last count I had from 1998 says 8)?
Bikeman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 783 times:
We had 2 CL44 at Kinshasa at the time of the blast, neither were in hangers, one was only moments away from starting her engines to fly. Both sustained damage, and as yet only 1 has been returned to operational status.
One of our pilot's investigated the Yukon in Guayaquil in July last year, but we were surprised to see that cl44.com is now saying she's been scrapped. Others we know for sure are our 2 in Kinshasa, 1 in Brazzaville (all ex-Tradewinds).
Shankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1470 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 781 times:
Patroni,
Can't help you but you've jogged my memory of happy days in my youth watching the Transmeridian Cargo CL-44's (including their Guppy) arriving and departing at STN.
Always thought the swinging tail was pretty cool.
You take them for granted at the time, but now certainly miss aircraft like these.
Whisperingiant From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 65 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 770 times:
Bikeman/Trintocan
Interesting stuff. Re my post on the City Connexions Yukon, can you shed any light?
Ta
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Ceilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 763 times:
Cosnidering that the Yukon had piston engines, steam driven avionics and not a lot of commonality spares-wise with the CL44, there wouldn't be any logical point in acquiring it! Having said that, Mike Snow doesn't consult his partners much ... which gets him into trouble.
Bikeman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 754 times:
Screwed that one up Ceilidh.
The CL28 Argus was a piston engined derivative of the Britannia, developed as a martime recon aircraft for the Canadian Armed Forces.
The CL44-6 was the Yukon. The CL44-D4 was the unnamed swingtail freighter. Commonality between the Yukon and the swingtail is over 90%. Differences revolve around the cockpit windows (ala Britannia for Yukon, CV990 for the swingtail), cockpit crewing arrangements (1 extra man for the Yukon), APU in the nose wheel well in the Yukon, and of course a hinged rear end on the swingtail. And except for the military specific avionics, both fits are identical.
Get your facts straight.
DeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 24 Reply 17, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 751 times:
OOPS!!!! LOL
Bikeman.....
DeltaSFO
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Cicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 742 times:
wish I too could help... but it does bring back childhood memories of Flying Tigers at EWR.... The CL-44s were commonplace there in the 60s. Those tails were cool. The Civilian version flown by Icelandic/Loftleider was a sight too..especially surviving so far into the jet age...
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