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LOT To Order Additional 12 ERJ-175  
User currently offlineLOT767SP-LPA From Poland, joined May 2002, 156 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3183 times:

Two days ago biggest polish newspaper wrote an article that LOT has a plan to buy more (12) planes from Brazilian manufacturer Embraer. Here is link (sorry just polish language): http://www.rp.pl/artykul/70669.html
New planes will replace all fleet of EMB-145s.

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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Would be great news for LOT, is the order already cfmd?
I have experienced the LO E-75 once from AMS to WAW, which you can read my Trip Report :

Flying The Jungle-Jet To WAW (pics) (by DALCE May 1 2007 in Trip Reports)

I really loved the comfort offered on this machine!
Would it be just E-75's or E-70's aswell?



flown on : F50,F70,CR1,CR2,CR9,E75,143,AR8,AR1,733,735,736,73G,738,753,744,319,320,321,333,AB6.
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Will this new ordered a/c replace any of the existing fleet??? Or will they be used to expand/add frequency???


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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3049 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 2):
Will this new ordered a/c replace any of the existing fleet??? Or will they be used to expand/add frequency???



Quoting LOT767SP-LPA (Thread starter):
New planes will replace all fleet of EMB-145s.




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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3041 times:



Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):

Sorry, need to read better.



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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3041 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 4):

no problem mate, weekend is near.  Smile



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3034 times:



Quoting DALCE (Reply 5):
no problem mate, weekend is near.

:D


This week has really been strenuous for me.


However great news for LOT. Really hope this is true and not just rumors.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

Really good news. I flew many times on LOT from Dublin !!! I really miss them now they left Dublin !!!

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

So who are going to pick up the E145s? SAS? LOT seem determined to be Embraer´s biggest customer in europe for a long time.

User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2441 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2936 times:



Quoting LOT767SP-LPA (Thread starter):
New planes will replace all fleet of EMB-145s.

Good news from LOT. Its to bad that they are getting rid of all the 145s though, the LOT livery looks pretty cool on that plane.



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User currently offlinePEET7G From Hungary, joined Jan 2007, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

What a smart move from LOT.... if only MA management can learn from them  Yeah sure

Congrats to both LOT and Embraer!

Cheers...



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12890 posts, RR: 100
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 2845 times:
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Quoting LOT767SP-LPA (Thread starter):
New planes will replace all fleet of EMB-145s.

Interesting. Upgauging! Anyone else think $90/bbl oil is having an impact on the 50 seat market?

So where are the E145's going? Or are they becoming piece parts?

Good news for both Embaer and LOT.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2807 times:



Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 11):
So where are the E145's going? Or are they becoming piece parts?

I doubt that the E145s will be scrapped.



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12890 posts, RR: 100
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2756 times:
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Quoting B747forever (Reply 12):
I doubt that the E145s will be scrapped.

Me too, but there is a world wide surplus of 50 seaters. Some will find greater value as parts (a la some of the A320's). I don't look for what I want when determining trends. I look for what the trends are. Right now that trend is to upgauge the regional flying. Its a natural side effect of expensive oil.

And a reason to buy GTF's.  Wink

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2630 times:



Quoting Alessandro (Reply 8):
So who are going to pick up the E145s? SAS? LOT seem determined to be Embraer´s biggest customer in europe for a long time.

I don't think the 145's are a good replacement for the Q400's.

Who knows though.

Shame to see the 145's going though...they looked great in LOT's scheme.

But the E-jets are a good choice. I've been on a United Express 170...I love those jets.

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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2147 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2390 times:

What are LOT's plans for the B767-200ER. This must be expensive to operate with oil so costly.

User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2372 times:



Quoting AF022 (Reply 15):
What are LOT's plans for the B767-200ER. This must be expensive to operate with oil so costly.

Run them till the 787s enter service. Or send them back to the lessors and run on the 763ER's until the 787 enters service. I doubt they're anymore expensive to operate than other contemporary widebodies, and is no more affected by the cost of oil than other aircraft.

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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2147 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2362 times:



Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 16):
Run them till the 787s enter service. Or send them back to the lessors and run on the 763ER's until the 787 enters service. I doubt they're anymore expensive to operate than other contemporary widebodies, and is no more affected by the cost of oil than other aircraft.

True, but the 762 on LOT has 41 fewer seats than the 763, so the cost per seat is much higher. From what I can see they use the 762 to YYZ and JFK primarily. Do they have 763s to serve these routes with 763s instead and retire the 762s? Even return them early to lessors?


User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2340 times:



Quoting AF022 (Reply 17):
True, but the 762 on LOT has 41 fewer seats than the 763, so the cost per seat is much higher. From what I can see they use the 762 to YYZ and JFK primarily. Do they have 763s to serve these routes with 763s instead and retire the 762s? Even return them early to lessors?

Well, if the cost became prohibitive, then they'd get rid of them faster. LOT has been acquiring a few second hand 763s lately. I'm not 100% certain what their plans are now that the 787 will be at least 6 months behind schedule. Otherwise, the 762s will remain on the timetable set by LOT's management.

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User currently offlineKochamLOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2307 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
I really miss them now they left Dublin !!!

Why did Lot leave Dublin?

Awesome for LOT. What will the ac replace...slowly will the e175s replace the 735? Wouldnt it make sense for LOT to look at the e190 adn 195 to replace their larger fleet of 737s. I love those 737s tho.


User currently offlineKochamLOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2305 times:



Quoting LOT767SP-LPA (Thread starter):
New planes will replace all fleet of EMB-145s.

where does it mention replacing e145s?


User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2189 times:



Quoting KochamLOT (Reply 20):
where does it mention replacing e145s?

This is the second mention on these boards I've seen about LOT getting rid of the 145s. Last time I heard I asked for confirmation, but never got a response from the user who stated it. Rumors run rampant in Polish aviation...the first mention said the Polish Air Force would take on some 145s converted to Legacys to replace that Yak 40s. I don't know if a conversion is even offered at the moment.

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