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Cubana To Rosario And Cordoba?!  
User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5097 posts, RR: 55
Posted (6 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Ok, did I completely miss this discussion on A.Net? Cubana is flying a weekly IL9 to Cordoba via Rosario. Now, this has to be the most random routing out there. Tell me that I am not hallucinating here in CCS. I would love to fly this!

Cheers,
A.

Edited to add: The chances of me getting a heart-attack has reduced ... appears only through end Feb?

[Edited 2007-11-23 21:42:31]


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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 1872 times:



Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Cubana is flying a weekly IL9 to Cordoba via Rosario

Maybe a batch of Cuban Doctors, remember that the population of those two cities along Buenos Aires were the large cities were Cristina K didn't win the majority of the votes, maybe some leaders believe that the population of those cities need its share of socialist culture learning Big grin. And abrelosojos, if you try to bring down my statement, please avoid your well-known and unfounded "poor-exploiting elite" accusations against anyone opposing Chavez, after 100000 posts it isn't funny anymore you know  Wink

Now regarding planes, I think it would be awesome if Argentinian spotters can get us a pic of that Russian beauty so far south of the planet!

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The chances of me getting a heart-attack has reduced

Keep control of your blood pressure! Don't take any chances, you never know if Cubana announces Daily services  Smile

Saludos desde Monterrey,
Luis


User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5097 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 1863 times:



Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 1):
Maybe a batch of Cuban Doctors, remember that the population of those two cities along Buenos Aires were the large cities were Cristina K didn't win the majority of the votes, maybe some leaders believe that the population of those cities need its share of socialist culture learning . And abrelosojos, if you try to bring down my statement, please avoid your well-known and unfounded "poor-exploiting elite" accusations against anyone opposing Chavez, after 100000 posts it isn't funny anymore you know

= I like the bait ... but will pass.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 1):
Now regarding planes, I think it would be awesome if Argentinian spotters can get us a pic of that Russian beauty so far south of the planet!

= That would be awesome.

Cheers,
A.



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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

Effective 02Jan08:

CU 1366 HAV 0940-1940 ROS 2105-2200 COR IL9 We
CU 1366 COR 2359-0600 HAV IL9 We



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User currently offlinePetrovsky19 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

Cubana flew to Cordoba in the '90s until they started cancelling alot of destinations due to the special period crisis and lack of a/c.

I found this link online stating the seasonal Rosario-Cordoba flight
http://www.cubaheadlines.com/2007/11...de_aviacion_to_open_new_route.html

I read that Cubana will have 5 weekly flights to Argentina in total this season and the Rosario and Cordoba route will be a test during Jan. and Feb. Depending how the route goes the route will maintain through out the year or will only remain seasonal.

Cubana is also looking to restart the Sao Paulo and Quito (although they didn't recieved an answer for the petition to Quito) routes as well add several others as they're acquiring new a/c. Hope it works out for them!


User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5097 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 1849 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
Effective 02Jan08:

CU 1366 HAV 0940-1940 ROS 2105-2200 COR IL9 We
CU 1366 COR 2359-0600 HAV IL9 We

= Hmmm ... I wonder if my little angel (my travel agent here) can work out something for me. I am supposed to be in Argentina anyways in Jan ... and HAV is a stones throw away ... but seriously, why the hell are they flying this route?

Cheers,
A.



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User currently offlinePetrovsky19 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 5):
but seriously, why the hell are they flying this route?

tourism.. as 99% of Cubana's destinations except CCS. Before the Soviet Union collapse Cubana's destinations were mostly allies in Eastern Europe, Africa and Middle East; after the collapse of the Soviet Union is all tourism now

[Edited 2007-11-23 22:35:13]

User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5097 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 1837 times:



Quoting Petrovsky19 (Reply 6):
tourism.. as 99% of Cubana's destinations except CCS. Before the Soviet Union collapse Cubana's destinations were mostly allies in Eastern Europe, Africa and Middle East; after the collapse of the Soviet Union is all tourism now

= Makes sense. I didnt know that those cities provided much tourist demand to Cuba. Its got my favourite beaches in the region and is full of culture ... so makes sense I guess.

Did CU ever fly to the Mid East?!

Cheers,
A.



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User currently offlinePetrovsky19 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 1831 times:



Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 7):
Did CU ever fly to the Mid East?!

In April 8, 1980 Cubana started the route Havana-Madrid-Tripoli-Baghdad using one of its new IL-62M

Later in Nov. of the same year they started Havana-Luanda in Africa via Sal, Cape Verde also with an IL-62M. In 1982 they started the route Havana-Maputo(Mozambique) via Luanda and Cape Verde using an IL-62.


User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5097 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 1818 times:



Quoting Petrovsky19 (Reply 8):
In April 8, 1980 Cubana started the route Havana-Madrid-Tripoli-Baghdad using one of its new IL-62M

Later in Nov. of the same year they started Havana-Luanda in Africa via Sal, Cape Verde also with an IL-62M. In 1982 they started the route Havana-Maputo(Mozambique) via Luanda and Cape Verde using an IL-62.

= Wow. Very cool. Thanks for sharing. I knew of their MPM, LAD, and SID flights - but had no idea on their flight to Iraq via Libya! Neat stuff.

Cheers,
A.



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User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

Could it be some kind of cultural exchange with Che Guevara´s hometown?

User currently offlineCivilav From Mexico, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1654 times:



Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 10):
Could it be some kind of cultural exchange with Che Guevara´s hometown?

Hehehehe ! You really made me laugh with this one !! Thank you !

As a matter of fact, as a travel agent in Cancun I must say that there is a large contingent of Argentinian tourists and expats living here who come from Cordoba and Rosario.

Like it has been said in the thread that tourism accounts for such flights, there is equally the idea at CU of having a kind of hub in Havana to compete head on with established carriers (namely US airlines and Copa & Lan). Let me explain, a normal ticket from this part of the world to Argentina sets you back at least 900 dlls on average taxes included low season. If you go via Havana, Cubana charges no more than 650 taxes included all year round. They use the same fare levels for European destinations: they undercut other airlines by at least 25% in price including Cuba visa and all.

To Abrelosojos in Venezuela, for example, a typical Mexico-Caracas fare borders around the 700 dll mark, with Cubana via Havana it is 470 (if ever you can get hold of a seat, that is !!)

Now they are having more IL-96 planes courtesy of generous Venezuelan funding, they are planning to be more aggressive in certain markets, namely:

Canada (here they undercut Air Canada by a staggering 45%)
Brasil
Argentina
Spain
France
UK

Traffic, as I said, is not only tourism with Cuba as destination but very importantly, with Cuba as a hub Panama-style on a much smaller scale for the moment and without the superb infrastructure of Tocumen needless to add !!

Of great importance in all this is their marketing strategy: selling through travel agencies and commissioning at 7% whereas all other airlines are down to 1% ! This way Cubana gets hold of valuable foreign exchange indeed.

Hope this helps.

Greetings from Cancun.


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1611 times:



Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Cubana is flying a weekly IL9 to Cordoba via Rosario

This kind of operations concerning to one or two weekly flights are commonly utilized by CU in some destinations from its network abroad.




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Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 1):
Argentinian spotters can get us a pic of that Russian beauty so far south of the planet!

CU is currently operating HAV-EZE once a week with IL-96 as well.




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Quoting Petrovsky19 (Reply 6):
tourism.. as 99% of Cubana's destinations except CCS

CU is not focused to leisure traffic exclusively.
CU is deploying HAV-MEX 7x weekly and stimulating as well the VFR traffic, allowing special fares for Cuban residents in both Mexico and Panama: http://www.cubana.cu/html/ingles/oferta_de_cuba_somos.html
On the other side, CU and CM have established a code-share cooperation for HAV-PTY.
CM is flying 3x daily HAV-PTY having the possibility for a bunch of connections on CM's network once at PTY, including EZE and COR.
CM will increase PTY-HAV to 4x daily next year, based probably on the size-able traffic coming from connections through PTY.




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Quoting Civilav (Reply 11):
a normal ticket from this part of the world to Argentina sets you back at least 900 dlls on average taxes included low season. If you go via Havana, Cubana charges no more than 650 taxes included all year round

Good point taken !
The chance for CU is supported in lower fares as you posted out before, despite the fact they are offering no more than one weekly flight to EZE, ROS and COR from HAV.

Regards.



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