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SQ 380 Schedule To LHR  
User currently offlineAmciver From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 48 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9884 times:

Does anyone know when SQ are expecting the delivery of their second A380, when schedule rtns SIN/LHR will start and what flights each week it will be deplyed on?

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User currently offlineNicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9784 times:

9V-SKB (MSN005) should be delivered in early January. SQ's online ticketing hasn't been updated yet. It still shows B744s for SIN-LHR-SIN flights.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9740 times:

Singapore Airlines are planning to inaugurate services to London Heathrow with the Airbus A380 featuring the revoltionary new products at the end of March. I think this implies 15 - 31 March 2008.

The flights will be SQ322 SINLHR and SQ317 LHRSIN.



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User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5764 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9505 times:



Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 1):
9V-SKB (MSN005) should be delivered in early January. SQ's online ticketing hasn't been updated yet. It still shows B744s for SIN-LHR-SIN flights.

SQ cannot run a daily SIN-LHR schedule with only two aircraft, unless it were to drop SIN-SYD, which I think unlikely, especially in JAN.

Gemuser



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User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 9277 times:

Think they are planning on rotating the aircraft on SYD>SIN>LHR>SIN>SYD in a loop, timing wise I don't know if they can do it with 2 aircraft....logic tells me they can...barely.


SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5764 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 days ago) and read 9155 times:



Quoting SQ452 (Reply 4):
Think they are planning on rotating the aircraft on SYD>SIN>LHR>SIN>SYD in a loop, timing wise I don't know if they can do it with 2 aircraft....logic tells me they can...barely.

They can not! The flight time SYD-LHR is 23.5 hours (more or less) including a 1hr 40min transit stop, but not including any turn around time. Therefore a round trip takes 47 hours, without accounting for ANY time at SYD or LHR. Not practicable. You need three airframes. You might be able to do it with 2.5 airframes if your slot times at LHR allow it, but if you haven't got 3 airframes you dont have 2.5 either!  Smile

Gemuser



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User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8997 times:

So I guess what we need to know is when will the 3rd A380 join the SQ fleet?

I suppose they will be using their 2nd on regional routes or also on SYD and then when the 3rd one arrives, start daily LHR service using the A380 at the start of the airline Summer season, and having connecting daily SYD service at SIN.



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User currently offlineAmciver From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8977 times:

With 2 airframes in rotation and a daily SIN/SYD rotation I think they could manage a thrice weekley A380 LHR/SIN - presumably on the busiest days?

User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5764 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8926 times:



Quoting Amciver (Reply 7):
With 2 airframes in rotation and a daily SIN/SYD rotation I think they could manage a thrice weekley A380 LHR/SIN - presumably on the busiest days?

Yes they could probably manage that, but I doubt they would want to operate a service less than daily SIN-LHR. A 3weekly A380/4weekly B744 service would be awkward to operate unless they only sold B744 number of seats on the A380. But even if you did this you would still have less than daily R class service between SIN & LHR and some how I don't think so.

Gemuser



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User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8883 times:



Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
SQ cannot run a daily SIN-LHR schedule with only two aircraft, unless it were to drop SIN-SYD, which I think unlikely, especially in JAN.

Is it not possible for a 380 and a 747 or two to cover a route? As long as there are computers assisting with the reservations, the airline should know which A/C will be on a particular flight months in advance.

It seems to me that one day a 380 could depart, and then while it is returning the following day, a 747 could depart, and vis versa... In the course of 48 hours the capacity issue would average out, would it not? If need be, the 747 could be reconfigured with a larger first and business class than normal for that type, so that the premium passengers would not have to be effected much at all as far as capacity were concerned.

Thoughts?



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8821 times:

Are any A.netters planning to be on the SIN-LHR Singapore Airlines A380 very first flight?  Smile
I am thinking of going to Singapore with any old plane and come back on the first Singapore-Heathrow A380 flight.

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 2):
Singapore Airlines are planning to inaugurate services to London Heathrow with the Airbus A380 featuring the revoltionary new products at the end of March. I think this implies 15 - 31 March 2008.




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User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8633 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 10):

Why do you need to be part of the First Airbus 380 flight from SIN - LHR.
You were already on the Worlds First Airbus 380.

Regards
Ag92


User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2114 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8414 times:



Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 2):
Singapore Airlines

Surely you mean Singapore Airlines Ltd. - A member of Star Alliance, right?

 wink 

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8178 times:

Indeed. Though with a capitalised 'M' for Member.


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User currently offlineAmciver From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5142 times:



Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 9):
It seems to me that one day a 380 could depart, and then while it is returning the following day, a 747 could depart, and vis versa... In the course of 48 hours the capacity issue would average out, would it not? If need be, the 747 could be reconfigured with a larger first and business class than normal for that type, so that the premium passengers would not have to be effected much at all as far as capacity were concerned

There would be a problem as there is a surcharge on the new premium products on the A380


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13457 posts, RR: 100
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3811 times:
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Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 9):
Is it not possible for a 380 and a 747 or two to cover a route? As long as there are computers assisting with the reservations, the airline should know which A/C will be on a particular flight months in advance.

Trivial.

Quoting Amciver (Reply 14):

There would be a problem as there is a surcharge on the new premium products on the A380

That would be the issue. On Say Monday, Thursday, and Saturday 1st would cost 120%* more than the rest of the week. That's the issue. customer consistency. It would be best to fly A380 and only A380 (or load in 77W's with A380 seats in the off season). Trying to swap two distinct products... gets tough. Its ok to have one flight (say the early flight) 'premium' and the later flight 'economy,' but there needs to be an easy to understand line of demarcation for the customer.

Kudos to SQ. Let's get those A380's into service! Now for the 1st GP7200's....  Wink

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineMakeMinesLAX From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2677 times:



Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 6):
So I guess what we need to know is when will the 3rd A380 join the SQ fleet?

I suppose they will be using their 2nd on regional routes or also on SYD and then when the 3rd one arrives, start daily LHR service using the A380 at the start of the airline Summer season, and having connecting daily SYD service at SIN

I agree regarding the regional service - my money's on SIN-HGK-SIN, which will eventually be extended to SIN-HGK-SFO. SQ needs to be conservative while they are gaining experience with the A380, and HKG seems a likely market for the premium customers they need to draw to make the experiment worthwhile. It would be foolish to withdraw SYD for another two-plane capable route since (a) LHR-SIN-SYD and v.v. has been SQ's premier target and (b) they need to keep the pressure on QF.

Admittedly, here's a bit of armchair CEO-ing, but I've laid out a possible LHR deployment plan in reply 53 of this thread.


User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2565 times:



Quoting MakeMinesLAX (Reply 16):
I agree regarding the regional service - my money's on SIN-HGK-SIN, which will eventually be extended to SIN-HGK-SFO. SQ needs to be conservative while they are gaining experience with the A380, and HKG seems a likely market for the premium customers they need to draw to make the experiment worthwhile. It would be foolish to withdraw SYD for another two-plane capable route since (a) LHR-SIN-SYD and v.v. has been SQ's premier target and (b) they need to keep the pressure on QF.

Admittedly, here's a bit of armchair CEO-ing, but I've laid out a possible LHR deployment plan in reply 53 of this thread.

I actually think this was discussed, mentioned already at some point not too long ago either on here or in the press (my memory is foggy though). Wouldn't surprise me as the 773ER goes to HKG as well so the A380 would make sense. Then HKG will get just about every SIA aircraft besides the A345.  Smile



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineJoni From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2556 times:



Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
SQ cannot run a daily SIN-LHR schedule with only two aircraft, unless it were to drop SIN-SYD, which I think unlikely, especially in JAN.

I think according to the current delivery schedule they'll have three A380s in March.


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