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CX Has 20 B 747-400s Only?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9107 posts, RR: 15
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3524 times:

According to Cathay Pacific's schedule they have 20 B 747-400s only. Are those second hand B 747-400s 100% delivered?

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User currently offlineBooDog From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3414 times:

I'm confused....

according to what schedule? delivery schedule? flight schedule? What second-hand 747's? CX has between 22-25 747's. (cathaypacific.com says 23, Wikipedia says 24, etc.)

Can you be more specific?



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User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1534 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

Cathay has 19 RR powered birds that were delivered to them new from Boeing. They bought 6 P&W powered birds from Singapore, 2 of which were delivered to the passenger side, the remaining aircraft were delivered to Cathay Pacific Cargo.

At the same time, Cathay Pacific removed one of its original RR powered birds for conversion to a freighter. I'm not sure what the details are, but CX needed to have a bird available for conversion, so they offered one of their aircraft.

Therefore, CX has 20 747-400s (18x RR, 2x PW, ex SQ) and should have 5 747-400BCFs (1x RR, 4x PW, ex SQ), assuming all aircraft have been delivered.

Correct me if I'm wrong.


User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2453 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

Cathay Pacific has 36 B744:
6 x 467F
1 x 467BCF
2 x 444BCF
3 x 412BCF

18 x 467
6 x 412 (of which 1 to be delivered)

Dragonair has 3 B744:
3 x 412BCF

Cathay has 6 more B744F on order.

All this information is widely available on the net. A simple search for the info will not take more than a minute to yield all that and the rego's.



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8643 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2892 times:



Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 3):
Cathay has 6 more B744F on order.

And 10x748F



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9107 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2765 times:

How come CX's schedule says 20 B 747-400s?

User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1534 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2679 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 5):
How come CX's schedule says 20 B 747-400s?

It only counts passenger model 747-400s.

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 3):
All this information is widely available on the net. A simple search for the info will not take more than a minute to yield all that and the rego's.

I only counted Passenger / BCF 747-400.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9107 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2338 times:



Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 3):
18 x 467
6 x 412 (of which 1 to be delivered)

Then shouldn't there be 23 B 747-400 passenger aircraft?????? Not 20.........


User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

If you go to this website http://www.airfleets.net you can type in the airline name and see their current fleet including tail numbers, delivery date, and history of the aircraft. Includes aircraft that the airline no longer owns but has sold or disposed of.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9107 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

They still have one second hand B 747-400 passenger aircraft to be delivered?

User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8091 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1858 times:
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ITS amusing how Cathay Pacific has bulked up its 744 fleet with ex-SIA planes with Pratt engines.

User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1845 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 10):
ITS amusing how Cathay Pacific has bulked up its 744 fleet with ex-SIA planes with Pratt engines.

If by amusing, you mean smart, then I would agree. SQ takes first rate care of their aircraft and tosses them aside awfully young. I wish UA would buy some old SQ birds too, to bulk up its fleet.



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8643 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1837 times:



Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 11):
SQ takes first rate care of their aircraft and tosses them aside awfully young.

Funniest thing I have heard for ages...normally SQ aircraft take longer to get online as they have not been looked after. They flip the aircraft so they can avoid doing any real work on them.



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User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1790 times:



Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 11):
SQ takes first rate care of their aircraft and tosses them aside awfully young

When I spot and see CX's ex-SQ aircraft take off, they look like a 707 taking off with the amount of smoke coming from the engines.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9107 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

CX's website says they have 23 B 747-400s.

User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1672 times:



Quoting Zeke (Reply 12):

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 11):
SQ takes first rate care of their aircraft and tosses them aside awfully young.

Funniest thing I have heard for ages...normally SQ aircraft take longer to get online as they have not been looked after. They flip the aircraft so they can avoid doing any real work on them.

I guess I had read some stuff claiming that the 747s at SQ had been fairly well maintained, but I will defer to your superior knowledge.

If SQ is in the business of flipping their aircraft to avoid mx, how have the A380 delays and the 747-400s staying in service with SQ longer than anticipated (some of the 744s are what, 15 years old now when usually they don't keep aircraft too far past 10-12) effected them?



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8091 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1621 times:
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Quoting Airbus_A340 (Reply 13):
When I spot and see CX's ex-SQ aircraft take off, they look like a 707 taking off with the amount of smoke coming from the engines.

Funniest thing I heard about Cathay, ever.


User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1534 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1582 times:



Quoting Zeke (Reply 12):
They flip the aircraft so they can avoid doing any real work on them.

Singapore also has very favorable accounting laws/practicies that allow for more favorable depreciation, which lets them flip their aircraft faster.


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