YLWbased From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Jan 2006, 542 posts, RR: 5 Posted (2 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 22226 times:
""The Metis Transpacific website makes all sorts of claims about aircraft, fleet and product offering, and even includes some internal cabin shots taken from an ex-South African Airways Boeing 747-400" said Peter Miller of Skytrax.
"However, neither Macau or Vancouver airports include any flights for this airline, despite the Metis Transpacific website stating that they have a flight operating today (2nd November) on this very route!" added Miller. "
Please be aware of the airline as they are trying to sell ticket online lately. Both Macau International Airport and Macau Aviation Authority have confirmed ALL Metis TransPacific flight has been CANCELLED!
After reading this, I contacted ZOOM Canada myself and they deny of having any relationship with MetisPacific. I've reported the case to RCMP 10 mins ago.
[Edited 2007-11-28 05:36:49]
Kelowna - Aviation Gateway of the Central Okanagan
Technical characteristics
Period of use: 2007 - now
Manufactorer: Boeing
Engines: Rolls Royce
Fuel capacity: 43,490 usg
Overall length: 155.3feet (47.32 m.)
Wing span: 124.1 feet (38.05 m.)
Tall height: 44 feet, 6 inches (13.6m)
Range (full passengers): 7,222 km
Boeing 747-400
Technical characteristics
Timetable code: 744
Period of use: 2007 - now
Manufactorer: Boeing
Engines: Rolls Royce
Seats (typical): 300+
Fuel capacity: 57,285 usg (216 847 l.)
Overall length: 229 feet, 2inches (69,9 m.)
Wing span: 213 feet (64,9 m.)
Top of fin from ground: 63 feet, 5 inches (19,3m)
Cruise speed: 552 mph (888 km/h)
Range (full passengers): 6,670 miles (10 734 km)
Cruise altitude (typical) 35,000 feet (10 668 m.)
Boeing 747-300
Technical characteristics
Timetable code: 743
Period of use: 2007 - now
Manufactorer: Boeing
Engines: Rolls Royce
Seats (typical): 400+
Fuel capacity: 44,952 usg (204,355 l.)
Overall length: 231.8feet (70.4 m.)
Wing span: 195.7 feet (59.6 m.)
Top of fin from ground: 66 feet, 2 inches (18.9m)
Cruise speed: 572 mph (920 km/h)
Range (full passengers): 7,120miles (11,450 km)
Cruise altitude (typical) 30-42,000 feet
Ag92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1208 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 21879 times:
Some error in the product pages
"In Business Class you can enjoy a 62 reclining seat" A 62 reclining seat. Does that mean the angle of the recline is 62 degrees or there are 62 seats
"best of all you can do all of them if you like" Certain grammatical error
"lay flat seats" Self explanatory
Technical characteristics
Period of use: 2007 - now
Manufactorer: Boeing
Engines: Rolls Royce
Fuel capacity: 43,490 usg
Overall length: 155.3feet (47.32 m.)
Wing span: 124.1 feet (38.05 m.)
Tall height: 44 feet, 6 inches (13.6m)
Range (full passengers): 7,222 km
They must have the only B-757-200LR in the world. With almost 43,500 US gallons, that is more than twice as much as a KC-135 holds. Even Boeing says the B-757-200 only carries 11,489 US gallons. So is there no hold space for luggage?
Well, I've tagged the article with tags about disputed notability and suspected hoax. If someone could find which photo was photoshopped, the image can be reported as a copyvio.
YLWbased From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Jan 2006, 542 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 21615 times:
i tried to "book" a ticket using their online booking system, and here's the email reply i got from them
"Dear Mr./Ms. Wong,
Unfortunately we are not able to grant your request for areservation in December 2007. Any Canadian originating passenger may NOT at this point in time beallowed to purchase any ticket from Metis TransPacific Airlines directly. We will however keep your email address on file and send you a list ofavailable agents that you may reserve/purchase with in Canada. We hope to speak with you soon again.
Kind Regards,
Metis TransPacific Airlines"
Kelowna - Aviation Gateway of the Central Okanagan
IADCA From United Kingdom (England), joined Feb 2007, 748 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 21455 times:
Well, this airline is supposedly based in Canada, but there are no records of them ever existing as far as I can tell in Transport Canada's records. Further, the airport Wikis seem to mention them, but neither YVR nor MFM's actual pages have them anywhere mentioned. ATI has no record of them.
And finally, if they're a Canadian company, why's their website written in clearly non-native English?
Indeed. Notice also that they label it a 744 on their website, when it's clearly a -300. Whoever made their site didn't know a whole hell of a lot about planes.
Airlinelover From United States, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 45 Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 21228 times:
Quoting YLWbased (Thread starter): After reading this, I contacted ZOOM Canada myself and they deny of having any relationship with MetisPacific. I've reported the case to RCMP 10 mins ago.
Why?
Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
"A SKYTRAX reader, Deanne Potter said "this new Macau based charter airline offers discounted flights between Macau, SAR, China and Vancouver, BC, Canada. The company’s website offers amazing seat sales and I recently reserved the Santa Special for HK1500 return. I received an email from reservations saying my requested travel dates were confirmed for 24 hours and that I could secure the ticket by wiring the money into the company’s Hong Kong bank account."
Have you ever heard of an airline, charter or scheduled, asking people to wire funds to their account in Hong Kong in order to secure a reservation? They do not mention any acceptance of credit cards etc. This has Nigerian Lottery hoax written all over it, but with an aviation twist.
That's the image that was photoshopped. Original was by John Yu on 5/8/06. Up to you if you want to contact him.
How do you guys do that?
This article mentions that the civil aviation authority in Macau knows of their intention but has no formal application. The article is from some time in November. Is there any way of confirming with the AACM? Also, there is apparently a wet lease arranged for two B767 from Zoom, which is half their 767s. Would Zoom's winter schedule permit them to wet lease two of their aircraft 3/week?
That's the image that was photoshopped. Original was by John Yu on 5/8/06. Up to you if you want to contact him.
How do you guys do that?
They claimed it was a -400. The plane in the image is clearly a -300. So I went to the photo search engine and searched for 747-300s at YVR. It was the first result. Not exactly rocket science.
QQflyboy From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1765 posts, RR: 14 Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 21078 times:
Very strange indeed. I wondered for a moment if the website was a class project or something that was taken live for review. But then YLWbased said he received an email from them when he attempted to book a ticket. It's all strange. Did anyone notice on their website the plane flying in the banner? I thought it was a nifty little touch. At the top of the page in the Metis Transpacific banner look between the logo and the slogan "Connecting Continents." Nothing big, just nifty.
Mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 4546 posts, RR: 60 Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 21065 times:
Quoting BlueSkys (Reply 20): A.Net Investigations at thier best! Maybe a new branch of INTERPOL? lol
Well, I looked at the site and thought "this looks familiar... reminds me of... Bali Air"
A quick search and voila... LOL Nothing "interpol"-ish about that...
Mandala499
When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
Jamincan From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 635 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 21003 times:
I checked out the company who designed the website, and it appears legitimate and even includes it as part of its portfolio. It's based in Greece, which would explain why the domain is registered through a Greek company.
26 AAJFKSJUBKLYN: I tried to book a ticket for 5 adults, 5 children, 3 babies. You have to give them your email and this is what came in return: Dear Mr./Ms., Unfortuna
27 AuroraLives: Interesting how "Canadian originating passengers" may not book at this time.... But... according to their web page, the first flight (28 Nov) is YVR
28 Avianca707359B: I also tried to book a ticket and received a confirmation number in their response: Dear Mr./Ms., Your request will be valid for the next 24 hours. Y
29 AAJFKSJUBKLYN: Notice You are from Columbia and myself the US>..this is so crazy...HUGE SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why would an american be denied and a columbian to
30 Avianca707359B: I was born in Colombia but live in Connecticut. You're right, the whole thing is a joke. Unfortunately, their website looks real enough to the averag
32 Tugger: Any way to find out who "Metis1" is? Also how did they know of the change so quickly? I guess if you "job" is to scam people then you must keep the a
33 Da man: No way to identify who "Metis1" was. Also, after I reported the account as a single-purpose account for the purpose of this scam, the account was ind
34 Tugger: I found Metis1 here: http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache...ne+flight&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us It's an old thread and I can't go any further since I d
35 Callumm92: " target=_blank>http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache...gl=us Looking at that, 'metis1' thinks that they are going to fly with a 752 YVR-MFM. At 5573n
36 Dw9115: Found some if at Source: http://www.airportbusiness.com/pdf/feb/NewAirlineRoutes021607.pdf that said they were starting on 5/1/07 and was posted on 2/
37 AF340: Just fired off an email to my local news desk. AF340
38 ATAIndy: So did I. At this point I think that has been disproved lol. THAT'S what sounds fishy to me... The took the registration out too I noticed.
39 USAirALB: Someones gotta contact John Yu so we can bust "Christopher Colbourne"
40 USAirALB: Johns user name skyline has been deactivated
41 Hiflyer: Wondered why the name Metis so..... From Wikepedia on the name Metis "By the era of Greek philosophy Metis had become the goddess of wisdom and deep t
43 USAirALB: who knows what kind of idiot actully wired money over
44 Xtoler: Damn, this is the second stupdist scam I've heard in one day! This morning I heard about the moron trying to open a bank account in South Carolina wit
45 Airfoilsguy: I wounder why they removed the truck??
46 Fwa2500: ive just done the same......this is really a disgusting thing to do....im at a loss for words...
47 Threepoint: Didn't you have a thread recently deleted because of your ignorant statements about the RCMP? I think it was the YVR TASER subject. Be respectful. If
49 Fwa2500: not to mention taking off with full flaps and smoking tyres...
50 EXTspotter: Is it just me or does the outline of the 743 look wavy in the picture?
51 Jamincan: Metis is also the name given here in Canada to a group of aboriginals descended from French voyageurs and aboriginal women.
52 AF340: I thought that too but I opened full view and it was gone. Compression kills the cat... AF340
53 Tugger: How else do you think they take off in 1,500 feet? Gotta get those tires into the action as well! Step on the gas, burn that rubber, configure for LO
54 N1120A: Probably because Canadian authorities are already on the case.
55 AirForceOne: I live in Vancouver within a mile of the airport. I see every plane come in and its never been a MetisTranspacific. My dad works at the airport and he
56 MTYFREAK: That's some very sensible information they are asking for on that email! I always wanted to say this: BUSTED!!
57 Xtoler: I was able to access that. I liked the one guy who actually typed "this is a great photoshopped picture" and it shows the same picture in one of the a
58 SNAFlyboy: Incredible...I hope nobody actually bought any "tickets" from these guys... Anyway, things are in motion now, apparently... The authorities have been
59 SJC4Me: You people sure are putting a lot of effort into researching this obviously bunk airline. If anyone is dumb enough to wire transfer funds without know
60 AirframeAS: I'm not surprised that something like this would come about. Scams are everywhere. Its a good thing the OP started a thread on this. Hope they catch t
61 Tugger: No one really deserves to be scammed. They may be stupid but I actually feel for someone less than knowledgeable about airlines back in Macau who fin
62 SJC4Me: As an aside, is the Macau-Vancouver route in such demand that it deserves its own scam? Or is that the brilliance in it all? Just enough under the ra
63 Jasonmiller: Anyone in Greece can contact the hosting company and report abuse? This website has to go offline no matter what.
65 Bennett123: I have less time for Nigeria scam "victims". If someone says that there are £10M sitting in an account in Nigeria which we want to move to another co
66 CO777ER: Too bad Marvin Zindler isn't around to save the day for some unlucky victims. This hoax was well thought out. I wonder if John Yu could collect damage
68 BAKJet: I wish, then it could easily do IND-AMS. I just contacted RTV6 and my local paper The Republic[Edited 2007-11-28 17:42:27]
69 Viaggiare: While you're at it, might as well let the bank know what's going on... Phone: +(853) 2837-8977 Fax: +(853) 2871-1100 Email: lusobank@lusobank.com.mo
70 AF340: So I sent an email to Metis Transpacific and here's the response: AF340
71 BAKJet: Of course they are going to say it is real. They want our money.
72 Jamincan: Surely someone should be able to find some sort of record of their incorporation in Macau... if it actually was incorporated there. Has anyone heard b
74 Tugger: Agreed, What has he lost by claiming what he did? NOthing more than the scam it already is. We already know the picture is stolen, photoshopped, ther
75 IADCA: Um, yeah. Real airlines wouldn't send emails like that. Nor would Transport Canada have thrown down the hammer. They only have jurisdiction over airl
76 BAKJet: This is worse than Canada World Airlines, at least CWA wasn't selling tickets.
77 Viaggiare: So, did you ask him about the livery copycatting and his crude photoshopping of the 743 at that?
78 AF340: Just emailed him again. Asking those questions. AF340
79 Peteg913: This is pitiful...how can this guy actually think that people would believe that e-mail responses like the one above are from a developed airline. Or
80 Gte439u: Does anyone else find the "airline" name itself funny? "METIS" is the term in Canada for persons of mixed European and First Nations/Inuit origin, and
81 ATAIndy: Nice, I wonder if he has read this thread...[Edited 2007-11-28 19:01:47]
82 AF340: In his second response he said the following: I think he did as he has kind of talked about some of the topics brought up here. AF340
83 Viaggiare: Interesting. I wonder if AF340 can trace back the ip from which his reply originated.
84 IADCA: Predicted responses: He'll say that since they're planning to wetlease planes now, he doesn't know the registrations yet, and that the photoshop job
85 DurangoMac: Well I looked up the server where the site is hosted and it's a server farm in Houston, TX. The company hosting the server is The Planet and they are
86 CO777ER: So how much money do you think this dude has acquired over his "18 Months of Incorporation?"
87 JTR: I thought this was going to be SkyHigh Airlines 2.0, too bad.
88 ScrubbsYWG: so has he explained how they plan to use a 757 for this flight?
89 DZ09: Is this another one of those nigerian scams?
90 N68TLCaptain: You would have to be an idiot to not figure out the logos on that 744 are fake! Just look at It!
91 Fly2YYZ: I thought that Primaris was the airline that was going to operate on behalf of this airline? They even applied to the charter flights for Metis Pacif
93 CO777ER: ... with the 743, 744 and the 752, yeah that makes complete sense
94 IADCA: Looking through the CARs, there is no regulation numbered 59. I don't see how CARs would allow you to fly to Canada and back but not to sell to Canad
95 STARalliance24: And the photo of the belly of their B744 on their site is actually an Eva Air B744.
96 Avianca707359B: Looks like we're starting to get picked up by the bloggers.... Take a look here, especially his clever superimposed picture: http://www.jaronbrass.com
97 Avianca707359B: Earlier today, this is what their Home Page displayed in the left side panel: next scheduled flights -------------------------------- November 28, 200
98 Iwok: Yep.. My first brouse left me with the impression that this was a relevent organization, but in the details things became clear. I do think however t
99 Continental: This is my favorite line from the website, found on their 'On Board' section: "You can spend your flight working, relaxing, sleeping, and best of all
100 MQTmxguy: From the Metis site: So does he have small armies of mechanics sitting in MFM and YVR ready to jump up and tear the plane apart, replace every lightbu
101 YLWbased: Yeap. I contacted Zoom customer care center, and they refuse to have any relationship and have never heard of Metis TransPacific Airways. The lady th
102 Iwok: that's a great one. Now we finally have a plane capable of SYD-LHR-SYD with year round capability with a full payload to boot! iwok
103 SJC4Me: Is anyone else tempted to start a Metis TransPacific Virtual Airline? We can get some miles out of the PMDG 747 and the PSS/CS 757!
104 Cchan: Has anyone contacted the police in Macau or Hong Kong?
105 ThePalauan: You can only take a scam so far but to the point where you actually have to defend it like that? I believe people like those behind "Metis" deserve o
106 BE77: You know, if someone wanted to do this again in a year or two when the fuss dies down, we've pretty much spelled out all the details of how to do it '
107 Viaggiare: The Macau wire transfers idea wasn't too bright either. Try friggin' PayPal next time, metis.
108 Max777geek: Don't this people understand that if somebody is able to wiretransfer money to china they're by far in condition to understand it's a scam ?
109 PHKLM: Let's set up a huge Airliners.net Airlines scam. We're opening with LHR-SYD for $199,- return with that special 757XR of Metis
110 YLWbased: wt a bright idea, let me go ahead and register the domain www.flyairliners.net
111 Viaggiare: That would be the 757-200XLR for the sake of preciseness.
112 QatarA340: Guys, try to open the FLEET and CLICK ON A PLANE.. A box will appear.. QUICKLY READ THE TITLE LINK and you will notice the name of the file contains
113 Caspritz78: And we would offer plenty of nourishment on board.
115 JFK787NYC: His bank account is in Hong Kong, his website is from Greece and he maybe sitting in Russia. He is not trying to get money from the western world beca
116 Bwest: It acutally says "photoshow" If you right click on the pic, and select the "saved page info", you get this: http://www.metismacau.com/includes/photo_
117 Mennix: Newest news: To fill up their magical 757 Metis announced to use their 743 as feeder from Hong Kong and the 744 as feeder from Shenzen. All trans paci
118 JFK787NYC: That would not work. They want your 1500HKG and in 3-6 Months they will transfer all of your money out of your Bank Account same reason why they ask
119 Avianca707359B: From the Metis website: " * CHILDREN (12 YEARS AND BELOW) FLY FREE OF CHARGE WITH TICKETED PARENT OR GUARDIANS. This should do wonders for yields, esp
120 FlyKev: Nice Scam. Note the calendar on the right. Choose a flight from there, and suddenly, not only can you book flights from a previous date, but you can't
121 Mestrugo: If you're serious about this, I've got a couple of 727-200-ReallyAdvanced hanging around, ex IB birds, that I found on a flea market, and they're in
122 TripleDelta: Or we could just get a few dozen 787XWBs or A350-8s...
123 EI747SYDNEY: I reckon It's a Nigerian scam. Man the thing's people will try nowadays So do we know if anyone has lost money on the site?? Rob
124 Airlinelover: This was long established as a scam.. As for the A.net airline scam How about a DTW-AKL lol.. Chris
125 Avianca707359B: NEWS FLASH: I HAVE THE "SMOKING GUN" : I was able to retrieve my "reservation" online using the confirmation number they provided: ___________________
126 Max777geek: Wouldn't this guy earn more money as java programmer ?
127 PlymSpotter: Well, after emailing him with a few questions, he came back to me with this exact same reply; Worth piece of literiture that I have ever read, for on
128 Hiflyer: I would be curious to see what a local member would find if they dropped in to visit Suite 22, Departure Concourse Mezzanine Level Macau International
130 Oldeuropean: Hey, 5 is higher than 4. So a 757 is superior to a 747! Axel[Edited 2007-11-29 11:22:22]
131 B747forever: That is something new. This is really ridiculous.
132 BR715-A1-30: Because it is Airport AUTHORITY and they don't wanna get caught And here I thought you were speaking of Communications Workers of America I know I ca
133 B747forever: Didn't notice that. Wonder which airline operates that 747SP???
135 KPWM: I did a google search to see what else I could come up with on the so called "Metis TransPacific Airline" I came across this forum on another site: ht
136 Irobertson: In one of the blogs from August from above, it was mentioned that the 757 was planning on having a fuel stop in Russia. Still seems a bit far fetched
137 BAKJet: Also note that in the period of use section for the 747-300 it says 2007-NOW. Now correct me if I am wrong but, I was pretty sure that production of t
138 Visityyj: Update from Macau: http://www.destination-macau.com/2007/11/metis_we_messed_up.html Are they "lying" too, Chris ?
139 Tugger: Interesting indeed! Love this post: So they've had their planes now for about 5 months, everything should be fine..... right. There's also this post
140 Continental180: Well, i reported them to the police and pretty much harrassed them..this is a criminal act of what they are trying to do...i have also contacted the h
141 ShannoninAMA: Anyone else willing to bet that there is no actual "Christopher Colbourne"? Seems that this scam is all but busted. Shan
142 Bennett123: So they are selling tickets, but do'nt have a plane yet. Also because they are proposing to charter, they do not have permission from the relevant aut
143 Malaysia: Well I would never stoop that low, I do have a virtual airline associated to flight sim, but one thing I do not do is list a "reservations" "sales" po
144 BAKJet: Quoting ShannoninAMA (Reply 141): Anyone else willing to bet that there is no actual "Christopher Colbourne I bet there is somebody named Christopher
145 BAKJet: The 757-200 also says Period of use: 2007 - now. And wasn't the 757 production stopped 2 or 3 years ago. OH! Wait the 757-200XLR is still in productio
146 RW170: By "Period of Use," they are referring to the imaginary period of time that the aircraft have been in service with their imaginary airline, not the p
147 Rampart: You actually have to ask? Last thing I would advise is to circulate one's e-mail amongst the scam users-list. Maybe a reader, though probably not a m
148 ShannoninAMA: Speaking of it...our litte message at the top "that must remain for 5 days for the article to be deleted" has been removed from the article.... And M
149 AF340: Yes. He definetely reads these posts. In the emails he's sent me he has "answered" questions only asked here. AF340
150 Jamincan: It appears that he is using a new name, Maxudaskin; however, that is apparently kosher according to wikipedia policy. The hoax/notability banners wer
151 Jetjack74: No, that's a standard-body 747. It's the distance that makes it look like the 747SP wing flaps. The fuselage is much too long on the nose and the rea
152 BAKJet: Yes. I thought that it was it might meant. But I wasn't sure, so I pointed it out.[Edited 2007-11-29 17:01:57]
153 SHUPirate1: Actually, I believe they would have to say 1989 (operated by America West), 2007-Present, thanks to the ill-planned PHX-HNL-NGO route...
154 YLWbased: Samuel Curtis is a memeber of HKADB (Hong Kong Aviation Discussion Board), and he's trying help out on correcting the info on wiki. There might be a
155 Jamincan: I'm sorry if I implied that. I think his edits make it quite clear that he isn't involved with Metis Transpacific.
156 YLWbased: More News Update: It seems that Metis TransPacific has a "Travel Agent" in Guangzhou, China I found this Chinese website: http://www.ycwb.com/misc/200
157 AF340: Interesting... do you think your friend could inform the authorities in China? It tried to but I didn't know how. AF340 [Edited 2007-11-29 19:09:
158 YYZatcboy: I've reported this to 680 News, The Toronto Star and the RCMP (Internet Crime Division) who will share it with an Internet Crime force in the USA as w
159 BPS3458: Could you ask your friend to book 6 first class seats for me and my family. I want to spend some the the inheritance that was recently wired to my ba
160 Robsawatsky: http://www.cta-otc.gc.ca/rulings-dec...decisions/2007/A/392-A-2007_e.html So given the above, was Primaris and Worlwide Charters Inc. suckered as well
162 Bennett123: The bit about the cargo B747 was somewhat strange. 19854 is not a B747, (it is B727-25C N136FE). Furthermore exclusion of anything before than number
163 YLWbased: can I post this picture somewhere else? lol
164 Cchan: It is probably more effective to contact the police in Hong Kong. At least they have a website with contact details in English, and they speak Englis
165 FiveMileFinal: Wow. I have always had the fantasy of running my own airline, have even written down ideas about fleets and routes and schedules and stuff on paper. E
166 DurangoMac: " target=_blank>http://penton.speednews.com/Wanted.aspx Interesting, if I was to dial the number here in the US, I would get someone with a number is
167 Alphonze: " target=_blank>http://www.police.gov.hk/ I just sent my friend who is a Detective Inspector in the HK police an e-mail directing him to this thread.
168 BR715-A1-30: Did anybody's news do any report on this? I tipped off my local news desk in Paducah, KY, and they ran a short story on it to warn people.
169 AF340: Good job. You have a good news station down there in Kentucky! YLW based, could you maybe change the name of the thread from Tanspacific to Transpacf
171 YLWbased: WE DID IT!!! is this the first time ever that we could sucessfuly alert the media and they actually report about it? I hope more tv/news/radio would
172 BR715-A1-30: That just goes to show that if ALL OF US take the initiative, like so many other did as well as myself, we can stop things like this from happening.
173 VS239: It's strange but all the times I've viewed this thread I never even noticed. ! Well spotted.
174 Airbusaddict: I will see if i can email the local news here and tell them about this. This is really surprising, cuz how could someone pull this off. Is it a group
175 AF340: If we all pool our resources/knowledge together we can do great things. Also, YLWbased, excellent job spotting the article on this airline and bringi
176 Wjcandee: My big question about all this is this: Doesn't Canada have a policy regarding public charters that is similar to that in the US? (A public charter is
177 BR715-A1-30: A Copy of the email I sent him... Think this will scare him? Hello Metis, I just wanted to let you know, that thanks to thousands of citizens, and one
178 YLWbased: I doubt that anyone had contacted FAA. But CAA is informed as well as YVRAA. AFAIK, a total of 29 TV stations, 33 Print Press, 11 Authroties and 5 Co
179 AF340: I've been told that the Seattle news agencies have been informed and will likely publish an article on it. I am not sure which ones have been notified
181 Qslinger: I just reported this site as a phisihing site to Microsoft. Dunno if it will be much of help to other users but, users with Internet Explorer 7 will b
182 AF340: I was just going over an email I got from the guy and although this might not be correct, I found another IP address embedded in the source. It's not
183 Alitis: Just s thought, but this sounds like a reincarnation of the guy that claimed he was buying all used L1011's for transatlantic flights a few years ago.
184 Irobertson: Was that Transatlantic Airlines, flying JFK to Africa or something in some early version ex-Delta L1011s? Or are they legit but without a hope?
185 Threepoint: They don't of course. And the reason you don't hear about the good ones is because they haven't been caught. Not only that, but he also admitted exac
186 AF340: They are an actual start-up without a chance... they are now planning to use 747SPs. AF340
187 Xtoler: If that were the case, no chance at all for that start up! To have the balls to actually send an e-mail to one of our members claiming their legitimac
188 AF340: I was just surprised they emailed me back! AF340
189 Robsawatsky: If the authorities actually acted in a fashion that protected innocent victims in a timely manner your advice would be correct. Unfortunately, that i
190 Xtoler: I just printed it out and showed one of my non-flying friends and he's dying laughing. I sent this info last week when it first posted to at least one
191 AF340: Hehehe I brought back quite a bit of greenback on my last to the US but I never cashed it in before this at-par loonie. Well our dollar will go back
192 Xtoler: I have a feeling it may not last, especially with oil going back down. I'm just hoping the rest of my apathetic countrypeople (not the ones on this w
193 Threepoint: When faced with a credible scam, 'the authorities', as you term them, can and do work in ways you will never see, and they often work so quickly, the
Sponsor Message: 
From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Jan 2006, 542 posts, 
From United States, joined Jan 2005, 7564 posts, 
From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, 
From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 509 posts, 
From Colombia, joined Oct 2005, 204 posts, 
From India, joined Jul 2006, 1208 posts, .gif){kind=small}
From United Kingdom (England), joined Feb 2007, 748 posts, 
From Mexico, joined Oct 2005, 172 posts, 
From , joined Dec 1969, posts, 
From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 4546 posts, 
From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 635 posts, 
Printer friendly format 
){kind=link}