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Southwest: Why No "Illinois One" Or "Chicago One"?  
User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3639 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4460 times:

I know a similar thread was posted nearly two years ago (and is now locked and archived), but MDW is now the second-biggest city in the WN system in terms of daily flights (up from #3 when it was last posted).

But WN still doesn't have an "Illinois One" or "Chicago One" state/city flag 737 in their fleet despite this achievement... why? They have California One, Arizona One, Nevada One, New Mexico One, Maryland One, and (of course) Lone Star One, but no Illinois One, even though MDW and Illinois are just as important to WN's operations as those other states and cities (especially with Boeing headquarters being in Chicago).

Personally, I think the City of Chicago flag would look better than the State of Illinois flag on a WN 737... the state flag has too much white space, while the Chicago flag would look great.

Are there no plans for an "Illinois One" or "Chicago One" 737-700... or is it not a matter of if, but when?


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

Hey I agree....the illinois eagel on the side of a WN 737 would look great

User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4329 times:

Yeah I think the Illinois flag would look better than the flag for "Chicago's Finest"..... Smile

Who knows, maybe they should put the Chicago Skyline on the tail like Chicago Express used to on their Jestream 31s and SAABs....

Access-Air



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User currently offlineCrjflyer35 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 668 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4331 times:

My vote would be for the city of Chicago flag.....never thought about it, but it would be cool.


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4277 times:

Well the california bear is a white background and it looks good on the side of the plane:


you guys are getting dangreously close to a IL v Chicago argument that plauges the state.....A Chicago One would be the only "City" scheme in the fleet, where all others are state schemes.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4253 times:

Back in the day, we used to hope for a "Louisiana One"...ran a couple of threads here on it not too long after a.net cranked up.....the main theme was to be a crawfish with the engines dressed up as the crawfish pinchers.

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineBcoz From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4166 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 1):
the illinois eagel on the side of a WN 737 would look great

It would indeed, but Blago probably wants too much kickback money for the rights to use it.  Smile

bcoz


User currently offlineMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4158 times:

Well, using your reasoning: why no Florida 1? or Orland 1?


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User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4148 times:

Hey they could put Mayor Daley on the tail with a big red circle and slash thru it.....

Im still angry with his Midnite Dance of the Bulldozers at CGX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Access-Air



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22304 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4114 times:



Quoting Access-Air (Reply 8):
Hey they could put Mayor Daley on the tail with a big red circle and slash thru it.....

...except that Daley has been wonderful for WN and MDW.

Seriously, maybe the problem is a lack of suitable subject matter, but the skyline would be REALLY cool.



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4101 times:
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Quoting Access-Air (Reply 8):
Hey they could put Mayor Daley on the tail with a big red circle and slash thru it.....

I was thinking along the same lines. Maybe a big picture of a jackass in a suit...

2H4



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5686 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4078 times:

I think WN makes a state flag for their planes when Southwest has reached 50% or MORE of the MARKET SHARE of THAT state at the time the decision was made.

With such large operations of United, and American at ORD, combined with other cities AA and ORD flies to, and WN only flying to MDW, WN may not have that much of a market share in Illinois.

This would make sense for places such as Maryland, Nevada, Arizona, California, Texas, because WN flies to more then one place in that state, with exception to Maryland, and this helps the market share.

Number of flights or how large an operation doesn't neccesarily promote a state flag.

So perhaps WN has not reached 50% or more in Florida, even combined with the number of flights to/from/within Florida and the cities also.

Alex



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6412 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4062 times:



Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 5):
Back in the day, we used to hope for a "Louisiana One"...ran a couple of threads here on it not too long after a.net cranked up.....the main theme was to be a crawfish with the engines dressed up as the crawfish pinchers

And our rationale was very justified. Louisiana makes a ton of sense since it was WN's first out of Texas destination.



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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4051 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 11):
I think WN makes a state flag for their planes when Southwest has reached 50% or MORE of the MARKET SHARE of THAT state at the time the decision was made.

there is no way WN has 50% market share in CA. Intra-California maybe but not all California. Same probably with AZ and certainly TX.


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5686 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4029 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 13):
there is no way WN has 50% market share in CA. Intra-California maybe but not all California. Same probably with AZ and certainly TX.

Maybe not now...but i stated at the time the decision was made.

I don't know when California One Debuted nor LoneStar Either, but I do know this was after PSA had been swallowed and US Air weakened in California.

As for Arizona, when the only large player in Arizona was America West, and WN had major ops in PHX and a presence in RNO, not sure at the time when Arizona One came out...as for Texas, think how many cities WN flies to in Texas.

But again, I am not claiming it as a fact, I just heard the decision was based on market share AT THE TIME the state flag plane was released.

Alex



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User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4018 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 9):
but the skyline would be REALLY cool.

Thats what I originally suggested...could be a nice gesture to make up for SWA's forced demise of Chicago Express....

Access-Air



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22304 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4009 times:



Quoting Access-Air (Reply 15):
Thats what I originally suggested...could be a nice gesture to make up for SWA's forced demise of Chicago Express....

FL could have bought C8...



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

Im still waiting for Washington One for SEA/GEG. That would be a good flag...a totally green fuselage!  Smile


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User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3881 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 16):
Quoting Access-Air (Reply 15):
Thats what I originally suggested...could be a nice gesture to make up for SWA's forced demise of Chicago Express....

FL could have bought C8...

But they didnt.....Unfortunately.........


Access-Air



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User currently offlineEbs757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 758 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3857 times:

Yeah I think that would be a good idea. I see all of WN's schemes over my house landing at Midway everyday. Something to do with Chicago or Illinois wouldn't be bad


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22304 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3778 times:



Quoting Access-Air (Reply 18):
But they didnt.....Unfortunately.........

Indeed; they might have actually succeeded at MDW then... can't have that.



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6265 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3768 times:



Quoting Access-Air (Reply 8):
Hey they could put Mayor Daley on the tail with a big red circle and slash thru it.....

Im still angry with his Midnite Dance of the Bulldozers at CGX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good thought, but completely incorrect, with clearly no research or proof behind it. Along the lines of what Cubsrule said, WN support Mayor Daley as recently as 2 weeks ago - look it up.


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3512 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3749 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 4):
you guys are getting dangreously close to a IL v Chicago argument that plauges the state.....A Chicago One would be the only "City" scheme in the fleet, where all others are state schemes.

As much respect I have for downstaters - WN doesn't do much at all for anyone outside of Chicagoland in Illinois (and maybe the St. Louis metro area). Yes some people may drive to Midway for cheaper flights from the hinterland, but really, 85% or so of Illinois lies beyond the Chicagoland area (it's a bigass state - especially north-south!).

It wouldn't make much sense to have an Illinois state airplane when the vast majority of the state (in terms of land area) is not convenient to a Southwest airport.



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6265 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3738 times:



Quoting Planespotting (Reply 22):

As much respect I have for downstaters - WN doesn't do much at all for anyone outside of Chicagoland in Illinois (and maybe the St. Louis metro area). Yes some people may drive to Midway for cheaper flights from the hinterland, but really, 85% or so of Illinois lies beyond the Chicagoland area (it's a bigass state - especially north-south!).

Good point. However, it's not necesarilly a "big ass" state...it's only ranked 25 out of 50.


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3512 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3716 times:



Quoting SW733 (Reply 23):
Good point. However, it's not necesarilly a "big ass" state...it's only ranked 25 out of 50.

Well, mainly I meant that it's long as hell - it takes about 6 hours to get from chicago to cairo (374 miles).



Do you like movies about gladiators?
25 SW733 : Oh man, I've done that drive...horrible. And no payoff at the end...Cairo is god awful.
26 Lrdc9 : Becuase MDW effectivly serves as a hub, a transfer point for innumerable pax!! IMO City of Chicago a/c, not IL.
27 Access-Air : Well my Namibian friend, I guess that you dont know sarcasm when you read it.... When I try to be serious, people in here think I'm being funny and w
28 Post contains images BooDog : Southwest was born and raised in Texas. To them, Texas is the ONLY bigass state. How many airports does WN serve in IL? 1. How many in TX? 10. A non-
29 Post contains images ShyFlyer : Mayor Daley vs. Jackass in a suit... what's the difference? If Southwest launches an Illinois One it should also carry Spirit of Meigs Field titles.
30 2H4 : That's brilliant. I wish I had connections strong enough to suggest (or better yet, influence) the idea. 2H4
31 Post contains links Chi-town : http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...d=536874579&filename=phpN0jJtt.jpg http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...d=536874579&filename=phpjsgRSZ.png He
32 Chi-town : I love all you Texans. Have to go off and hoot and holler about your "pride" and how great Texas is. Ok...ok...we get the point Texas is big.
33 BR715-A1-30 : Florida hasn't been around that long... About 11 years or so? Marion to Chicago is about 5 hours.. I make the drive frequently on my way to Mequon, W
34 EXAAUADL : They could put Gov Blogo on the tail of their planes....or maybe a convicted politician holding a bag of $$$ wearing a prison outfit.
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