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Rumor:Upstate NY To Get AA Mainline Again  
User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3088 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

In the Albany times union article about AA selling Eagle, Michael Boyd who heads an aviation consultant company in Evergreen,CO says that The 50/44/30 seat jets are a declining sector. He says that ALB/BUF may end up getting AA metal after 2008. ALB Spokesperson Doug Myers says that this is an outstanding opportunity for American to add more service to ALB.


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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3088 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4959 times:

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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11686 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4909 times:

While I certainly hope this is true, I wouldn't hold my breath up there upstate.

Of all of the upstate markets, I think BUF definitely has the best shot at getting 1-2 daily MD80s back - probably along with keeping 1-2 daily Eagle flights. They'd like do with BUF something like they do with DFW-SDF: have the MD80s operate the early morning and late afternoon/evening departures from BUF, and Eagle in the middle of the day. As for the rest of the upstate markets (ALB, ROC, SYR), I think that if AA had stuck around, or if AA is now willing to really commit to the markets, all of them could easily support 1-2 daily MD80s from ORD. The demographics of upstate aren't exactly wonderful - shrinking/aging populations, etc. - but there are still lots of people there. And while Southwest is huge in some of the upstate markets, I still think AA could make them work if they came in with a 2-class product on some of their flights. Interestingly, they would face less of the problem of UA competition - as UA has now largely followed AA's lead in downgrading most of their flying to upstate to UA Express.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32868 posts, RR: 71
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

Don't hold your breathe for this to happen anytime soon. And if markets do get them back, Buffalo and White Plains would likely come first, IMO.


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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4506 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4881 times:

There may be some kind of restriction related to their going all-Eagle and making their local staff all Eagle earlier in this decade, a certain amount of time before they can fly mainline into the UNY stations again. AA experts and/or certain airport employees (e.g. AERoc) should be able to explain the situation us.

See the AA selling Eagle thread for some discussion of their scope situation and the draconian 25-frame limit on 70-seaters. I'd imagine the Upstate-ORD routes would be well-suited for 70- and 90-seaters, if AA can get rid of or at least loosen their scope clause. Several in the other thread said AA's failure to go after that clause in the 2003 negotiations is really coming back to hurt them. Fuel's making all those 37- and 44-seat higher-CASM ERJ's less attractive.

Jim



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11686 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4873 times:



Quoting DCA-ROCguy (Reply 4):
There may be some kind of restriction related to their going all-Eagle and making their local staff all Eagle earlier in this decade, a certain amount of time before they can fly mainline into the UNY stations again.

I could be mistaken - and others would surely know better (and don't call me Surely!) - that the restriction was that once a station went Eagle, it couldn't get mainline back for 18 or 24 months (not sure which).

However, in many former mainline stations that have lapsed to Eagle, AA has not really shown any interest in returning mainline service - even though the market could probably support it - once the 18- or 24-month restriction ended. I'm thinking of places like CLE, PIT, BUF, ALB, DSM, etc.


User currently offlineCs03 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4839 times:
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Seeing that United has some mainline service between ALB/ORD, one would think that American would do the same to grab more market share on the route.

User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3088 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4830 times:

I mean think about it, ALB/BUF could support more than 3 daily 50 seaters. They could definilty support a once/twice daily MD80/738


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32868 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4810 times:



Quoting USAirALB (Reply 7):
I mean think about it, ALB/BUF could support more than 3 daily 50 seaters. They could definilty support a once/twice daily MD80/738

It's not a quesiton of supporting, it is a question of AA properly allocating it's resources. ALB and BUF are not priority.



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User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4572 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
Don't hold your breathe for this to happen anytime soon. And if markets do get them back, Buffalo and White Plains would likely come first, IMO.

Not very often you see BUF and HPN in the same sentence.

I would love to see AA fly...

BUF - ORD mainline upgrade
BUF - JFK Eagle
BUF- MIA mainline
BUF - DFW mainline

HPN - ORD mainline upgrade
HPN - RDU reintroduce Eagle
HPN - MIA mainline

The only problem is everyone and their uncle seems to be adding service to HPN and I believe they are going to be maxed out on their passenger caps soon.

AJMIA



Lady it's a jet... not a kite.
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11686 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4532 times:



Quoting AJMIA (Reply 9):
The only problem is everyone and their uncle seems to be adding service to HPN

So once again AA misses the boat.

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 9):
and I believe they are going to be maxed out on their passenger caps soon.

Thank you NIMBYs!  Sad


User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4506 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 10):
Thank you NIMBYs!

How true. And I really do not understand their objections.
The newer generation jets are so quiet I can't imagine how they could desturb anyone.
I used to live in Westchester and I could barely hear the buzz of the planes when they flew over my house unless I was outside in the yard.

AJMIA



Lady it's a jet... not a kite.
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32868 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4475 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 10):

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 9):
The only problem is everyone and their uncle seems to be adding service to HPN

So once again AA misses the boat.

There's no missing the boat. AA's 738s can fly to White Plains. AA can add 738 service if they please, replacing current RJ service. A primary reason HPN is Eagle is because their MD80s are not allowed at HPN, and 738s are not based at ORD.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11686 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4470 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
There's no missing the boat. AA's 738s can fly to White Plains. AA can add 738 service if they please, replacing current RJ service. A primary reason HPN is Eagle is because their MD80s are not allowed at HPN, and 738s are not based at ORD.

What I meant is that if AA had a viable 70- or 90-seater (read: Embraer EJet), that wouldn't be a problem.


User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4456 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
MD80s are not allowed at HPN

Why no M80s at HPN?

AJMIA



Lady it's a jet... not a kite.
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32868 posts, RR: 71
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4393 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 13):
What I meant is that if AA had a viable 70- or 90-seater (read: Embraer EJet), that wouldn't be a problem.

No, it wouldn't, true. It would allow them to find a better substitute. Though the real problem is that the MD80s can't fly there. The 738s were pulled because the 738s were pulled from O'Hare, not because the route can't support the 738s. It did, and still will.

I think AA would have a home-run with MIA/DFW-HPN, 1x daily each on 738s. Too bad they their route planning department lacks even the remotest risk taking, and I don't even thinking flying either is a "risk" (South Florida already has seven daily non-stops to HPN, but none from Miami).

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 14):
Why no M80s at HPN?

NIMBYs. They are "too loud." Right before the 738 phase-out, AA brought in an S80 test flight to HPN and they were told no. Even after all the 738s were wiped off of the ORD schedule, AA kept the ORD-HPN flights as 738s in reservation systems because they were hoping to replace them with MD80s pending permission.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11686 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4381 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
The 738s were pulled because the 738s were pulled from O'Hare, not because the route can't support the 738s. It did, and still will.

Of course. HPN-ORD used to be an incredibly high-value business route for AA, as they got tons of corporate business from IBM over in Purchase, plus all the funds up in CT right across the border. Now, of course, they've lost much of that business. Sad.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
Too bad they their route planning department lacks even the remotest risk taking

Oh please, I think we all know that "risky" for AA is putting a 757 on DFW-ORD. That's about their level of risk tolerance at this point, scary is that may be, and even that would probably only last for 15 minutes before the either lost an appetite for it or grounded the aircraft to further shrink the fleet. Pathetic.  Sad


User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5250 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4347 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 2):
Of all of the upstate markets, I think BUF definitely has the best shot at getting 1-2 daily MD80s back - probably along with keeping 1-2 daily Eagle flights.

Back in the 70s, ORD-BUF had DC-10s.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 5):
However, in many former mainline stations that have lapsed to Eagle, AA has not really shown any interest in returning mainline service - even though the market could probably support it - once the 18- or 24-month restriction ended. I'm thinking of places like CLE, PIT, BUF, ALB, DSM, etc.

My wife flies ORD-PIT a lot. Based on the size of the standby lists, ORD-PIT could easily support CRJs. With US dropping its ORD-PIT flights, it seems to me that AA should either upgrade 1 flight to an MD-80 or at least add 1 more roundtrip. UA flies every thing from CRJ to 757 on the route.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
A primary reason HPN is Eagle is because their MD80s are not allowed at HPN,



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 15):
NIMBYs. They are "too loud." Right before the 738 phase-out, AA brought in an S80 test flight to HPN and they were told no.

IIRC, only the federal government can regulate aircraft noise. So, if the MD-80 is Stage III compliant, it should be able to fly into any airport that accepts commercial jet transports. Not that AA is about to spend money on litigation just to get MD-80s into one airport, but I would prefer to represent AA over Westchester County, if I wanted to pick the side most likely to win.

But my question is how much noisier is the MD-80 compared to the 737-800? I live under the departure pattern for 22L at ORD, and the MD-80 doesn't seem to be appreciably noisier than the 737NG, the 737 Classic, or the Airbus narrowbody series.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 16):
Oh please, I think we all know that "risky" for AA is putting a 757 on DFW-ORD. That's about their level of risk tolerance at this point, scary is that may be, and even that would probably only last for 15 minutes before the either lost an appetite for it or grounded the aircraft to further shrink the fleet. Pathetic.

Just an FYI, but AA went to mostly MD-80s on ORD-DFW in the early 90s during an industry downturn. At one time, AA flew everything from the F100 to the DC-10 on the route, but when a bunch of DC-10s were retired, AA went to a shuttle-style operation with the MD-80s. Once in a while, AA has put a 757 on a morning or evening rush-hour flight, and there has been an MD-11/777 roundtrip for repositioning for at least 10 years.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32868 posts, RR: 71
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4344 times:



Quoting Ckfred (Reply 17):
IIRC, only the federal government can regulate aircraft noise. So, if the MD-80 is Stage III compliant, it should be able to fly into any airport that accepts commercial jet transports. Not that AA is about to spend money on litigation just to get MD-80s into one airport, but I would prefer to represent AA over Westchester County, if I wanted to pick the side most likely to win.

Airports are allowed to further regulate airplane noise as much as they want, and at HPN, they do.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11686 posts, RR: 62
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4322 times:



Quoting Ckfred (Reply 17):
Back in the 70s, ORD-BUF had DC-10s.

Sad, isn't it? Now they're lucky if they get a few 70-seat RJs. Times change.

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 17):
IIRC, only the federal government can regulate aircraft noise. So, if the MD-80 is Stage III compliant, it should be able to fly into any airport that accepts commercial jet transports.

As MAH said, airports can regulate noise as much as they want, as long as they still comply with the mandate that they can't restrict competitive access to the airport if they receive federal dollars. Airports restrict noise all the time. Just ask Orange County - whose noise restrictions are about as bad as Westchester.

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 17):
Just an FYI, but AA went to mostly MD-80s on ORD-DFW in the early 90s during an industry downturn. At one time, AA flew everything from the F100 to the DC-10 on the route, but when a bunch of DC-10s were retired, AA went to a shuttle-style operation with the MD-80s. Once in a while, AA has put a 757 on a morning or evening rush-hour flight, and there has been an MD-11/777 roundtrip for repositioning for at least 10 years.

I know, I was being facetious (though not by much). I remember when there were Fokkers and 757s on DFW-ORD. I was commenting on how ridiculously conservative and risk-averse AA has become, to the point that I'm now pretty much convinced that they're determined to give their business to other airlines. I haven't come up with a better explanation.


User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4277 times:

Too bad SYR isn't mentioned. That of course doesn't mean they won't get mainline, but it's probably not going to happen. I for one would rather see MIA and JFK-SYR added (for personal gain, of course  Wink) before mainline, but I'd be very happy to see an MD80 parked at their gate every day.

User currently offlineRipcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4127 times:

I think after 2008 the recall rights for the stations that went all eagle expire so they can add mainline back without recalling AA employees there if they do it before the rights expire they would have to recall AA mainline employees which they don't want to do. After this expires not sure when but you will see BUF to be one of the first with a 80 back.

User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days ago) and read 3999 times:

I thought the same thing about AA returning to PVD after the 1 year recall was up here. It will be 2 years this April....

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7587 posts, RR: 43
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3911 times:

On a semi-related subject, which airlines serve Ithaca at the moment?


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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3878 times:



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 23):
On a semi-related subject, which airlines serve Ithaca at the moment?

US and NW. NW to DTW, and US to PHL and LGA, IIRC.


25 Dvincent : At BDL, United has twice daily roundtrips on 757s to ORD in addition to an A319/A320 here and there. AA? It's all Eagle. Used to be MD-80s. A300s to
26 PVD757 : you can say that agin!!
27 USAirALB : How is BDL-SJU a priority over ALB/BUF-ORD?
28 MAH4546 : Hartford has the fourth largest Caribbean immigrant community in the country, which is why AA flies BDL-SJU.[Edited 2007-11-30 13:54:47]
29 Dvincent : That is correct, and nearby Springfield also enters into the equation. Hartford has a massive Puerto Rican population. My understanding is that even
30 USAirALB : Even if AA does start to "beef up" upstate services this is what we should see: Mainline flights to HPN/BUF and probably ALB. If those flights workout
31 Post contains images Bok269 : MIA could be a gold mine if marketed correctly. MIA is one of the few Florida destinations not served from HPN, and with AA's Carribean presence from
32 USAirALB : could not agree with you more, but i think south florida is already highly served from HPN. The route would be more profitable from BUF/ALB
33 KstateinALB : Well, UA has a huge market share here, I honestly don't see it as absolutely necessary for AA to bring back mainline. It would be great but not neces
34 USAirALB : Yes but it did work out for Harrisburgh,SYR,ROC it could probably work out here too I mean like a daily MD80 to complement the 3x daily ER4. As much
35 AussieItaliano : People who live near HPN will object to just about anything!!!!! That whole Westchester/Fairfield County area has its nose in the air higher than the
36 Post contains links and images Yankees : Heres a pic of the 738 @ HPN
37 USAirALB : looks great-now if we can only get that back!
38 MAH4546 : Sorry, but no way. South Florida-White Plains is a high-yielding route with lot's of premium traffic that BUF and ALB combined couldn't match. Then a
39 USAirALB : really? wow i didnt know that
40 BAW2198 : If AA were smart they would go mainline out of ROC with 2x daily to DFW and skip mainline to ORD all together. As delay pron as ORD is, AA would start
41 Commavia : Indeed, if AA marketed it correctly, I think they could be immensely successful in all of the upstate markets - BUF, ROC, SYR, and perhaps even ALB -
42 SirOmega : My mom and dad don't like the ERJs so now they fly WN LAS-BUF (N/S). If they brought the MD80 back, they probably wouldn't mind using AA again (as we
43 VIflyer : No, one of the reasons why AA never flew the MD80 into HPN is that the a/c is physically to long to park at the terminal at HPN. The 738 length is 129
44 AussieItaliano : Oh yeah, I forgot! I've flown on those out of HPN before. If they weren't banned because of noise, then AA's MadDogs wouldn't be either. Interesting
45 VIflyer : Doubt that AA or any other airline could get Westchester County to modify the terminal so that an 80 or any longer/larger aircraft could access it. Wh
46 Post contains links and images Yankees : Heres an old pic of NW @ Hpn (hometown airport) Is there any chance the ARJ's or the new CR9, E75 would fly to HPN from MSP,DTW again. I think if they
47 USAirALB : Albany is buiser than SYR. They should just skip ORD together. Upstate NY AA needs DFW to be profitable.
48 CIDflyer : NW no longer flies the ARJ, but they could possibly bring the E75 for CR9 into the market. I doubt that they would add MEM though. exactly, with ORD
49 EXAAUADL : I dont think any current aircraft in the AA fleet can serve HPN....also just cuz AA is selling eagle doesnt mean mainline for SYR, ROC and ALB....I m
50 BAW2198 : ROC definetly gets UA mainline flt #'s 438 1127 379 957 472 182. A mix of a320's 319s' 733 and 735
51 Super80DFW : I could definitely see these routes: DFW-SYR DFW-BUF ORD-SYR ORD-BUF on MD80s
52 Commavia : Of course not, however, if AA is able to get some sort of a workable deal to finally get their regional (sub-100 seat) operations going in a semi-com
53 Post contains links Burj : I'm sure there are people on this forum who know more about this, but if I remember correctly the new terminal was part of a "modernization" plan for
54 PanAm330 : Sorry, but that suggestion is nothing short of idiotic. Why would they 'skip' ORD? Because you hate potential delays? They'd kill all connections to
55 USAirALB : if a CR7 can make DFW-SYR, it can eaisly make DFW-ALB to syr 1336 to alb 1435
56 PanAm330 : It won't make it. That's an extra 99 nm, and they make a difference. It'd be a marginal route when full. Weight restricting either bags or pax just t
57 MAH4546 : No, it can't. DFW-SYR/ROC are stretching it enough for the CR7s. The CR7 cannot do ALB-DFW profitably.
58 KstateinALB : The one reason that statement is flawed is partly in fact to that we have WN to MDW. None of those cities do have that service, so it's pretty much e
59 MAH4546 : We'll see what happens when AA starts contracting out to other regional carriers in late 2008. It is extremely likely that MIA regional jet flying wi
60 Tommy767 : I've heard this before. If that's the case, then where are all the MIA RJ's based at? Does that also include pilot and F/A crews? Also what exactly i
61 MAH4546 : Miami flights are usually operated by Chicago- and Dallas-based crews and planes. So a plane's routing will be ORD-XNA-MIA-CLT-ORD, DFW-MEM-MIA-GSO-D
62 Commavia : The AA/Eagle history in Upstate New York is an extremely long one, going back decades. American has been flying to Upstate since its very beginnings.
63 Steeler83 : I would like AA to send some Mainline back to PIT, but I think they'd rather have RJ pilots/crews flying there as opposed to the mainline crews. I du
64 Commavia : Absolutely. They're two totally separate and unrelated concepts/dynamics, at least generally. Whether AA eventually restores mainline to previously-m
65 Steeler83 : There's not argument that those markets are large enough to support mainline, especially PIT. The O&D is growing considerably out of PIT in spite of
66 Commavia : Yep, and AA was ready to commit to a 777 order back in 1994 or 1995 but decided not to until they got a workable deal with the pilots squared away. I
67 Steeler83 : Good job AA... As I even remember, I remember watching a documentary on the T7 back around 1994/1995, and during that, it was said that UA would be t
68 Commavia : The DC10s started leaving the fleet in the late 1990s - around 1997 or 1998 - but were not finally retired until November 2000. The small (19-strong)
69 MAH4546 : If it doesn't happen, then AA doesn't have much of a future. AA getting 70-100 seat E-Jets and 787s isn't a luxury, it is a necessity to be competiti
70 Steeler83 : Otherwise, they'll be stuck with aircraft with high costs and the like pretty much, right?
71 Commavia : I don't even think its as much about costs anymore. The really critical, important aspect of the aircraft of that size (70-100 seats) that is changin
72 Steeler83 : Ah. That will especially be the case with cities like PIT, CLE, BUF and the like. Aren't NW and DL regional airlines flying the E70? I know that US h
73 NWAESC : Republic doesn't do any flying for NWA... Our E75's are flown by Compass (CP).
74 Tommy767 : Those are some bizzare routings for sure. Has AA even considered opening an Eagle RJ base at MIA considering the amount of flights they have currentl
75 MAH4546 : They haven't considered it seriously because they don't have a place to move the aircraft from. What they have looked at (in the very early stages, t
76 USAirALB : I wish someone is around that could help us with this....I mean it would do great if someone at US grabbed it before WN does. WN will do it soon, I h
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