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Qatar Launches Houston Mid-2008  
User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1858 posts, RR: 10
Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

Qatar Airways will start flights to Houston by mid-2008 according to Akbar Al-Baker. It is forcast to be profitable for the airline as these are two centers of oil producing cities.

The airline plans to expand to many other US cities.

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...sion=1&template_id=57&parent_id=56


QatarA340


Houston, here we come!


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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3257 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4103 times:

Great to see QR expanding their US operations, they currently offer some of the cheaper fares on the India-USA sectors!


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4045 times:

Outstanding news for an area and airport gaining the international aviation respect it much deserves.....seems recently that IAH is getting monthly news of new international service.  Smile


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12515 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4015 times:

Good news and good luck to them; any idea of when new European routes might be announced for next year?

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4016 times:

Got to say thats a beautiful picture in the article there.

How long is DOH-IAH? Fourteen hours? LONG flight.

Quite surprising that they are choosing to use their two class people mover instead of the A346 which has a First Class section. One would assume the yields on this route would be very, very good indeed especially on the premium seats. Admittedly their C class offering is one of, if not the best in the world, but I wonder why no First. Interesting. They either have massive confidence that their C class is up to the requirements of the passengers on the route, or that they want to launch the route quickly (before EK perhaps?) and cannot spare the A346 capacity. Very interesting.

Thinking about the demographic here, most of the types of people flying between DOH and Texas and the oil/gas centres around the Gulf of Mexico who would nominally fly First class on this route probably have private jets, so it may be that the Middle Exec/Junior Director level staff on both sides who project manage so are travelling a lot, are very much C Class "heartland" so to speak, so its easy to understand why there are loads of c class seats. Surprised to see no First at all though.

Will the 77W be payload restricted in either direction at all do we know?

They have 77Ls on order - I wonder if they eventually intend to use the LR there instead when they arrive? One would assume these will have a first class offering on board?



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offline102IAHexpress From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

Looks like EK will not be the only player on the lucrative non-stop mid east route. I wonder if this move will prevent EK from starting double daily to IAH?
How does QR service compare to EK?


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3959 times:



Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 5):
Looks like EK will not be the only player on the lucrative non-stop mid east route. I wonder if this move will prevent EK from starting double daily to IAH?
How does QR service compare to EK

I dont think wild (Arabian) horses will stop EK from doing anything - least of all going double daily to IAH. I fully expect EY to jump on board later as well.

QR has a vastly superior C class product to EK, QR and EK are roughly the same in F (ie: jawdroppingly amazing) and they are roughly the same in the cheap seats, in my opinion.

I think both suffer from occasional slip in standards but are more consistant than EY who are better than both in all three classes when everything goes right - it doesnt happen often enough but they'll get there I'm sure.

Given the choice I'd choose QR over EK but EY if there is a choice of the three.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3850 times:

With EK and now QR adding Houston to their network, can we look for any others?

Ethiad, Kuwaiti ?



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3829 times:

So they are using the 77W on the route? I wonder if UA will codeshare on the route as well? So we loose(lost) China and Cayman and gained Emirates and Qatar. I hope the routes last, showing other carriers that IAH is a station that needs nonstop routings vs. timely stopovers to be successful (ahem...PK, GF, CI). Now if we could FINALLY lock down Korean it would be a very good 2008 indeed.


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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3993 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3774 times:

This has been in the rumor mill for some years now, glad to finally see one rumored IAH newcomer actually coming too fruition (are you listing Air India,,,,Korean...?), This certainly makes the upcoming departure of CI less painful. Now let's hope that EK and QR put butts into those seats making these 2 carriers IAH regulars, along with the likes of KL, AF, LH and BA.

Nice goin HAS, scoring too Persian Gulf carriers in less than a year, not too shabby.

Thomas



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17079 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3761 times:

Really great news for QR and Houston.

QR see a major expansion this latest years and forthcoming. It grows really fast.

Just for a few days ago they started the service to ARN from DOH.



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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3993 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3751 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 7):
With EK and now QR adding Houston to their network, can we look for any others?

Ethiad, Kuwaiti ?

There was a thread/posting a year or so back that implied an upcoming KU service, but I have heard nothing since. As for EY, I don't believe that they ever shown any interest in IAH.

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1858 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3641 times:



Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 5):
How does QR service compare to EK?



Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 11):
There was a thread/posting a year or so back that implied an upcoming KU service, but I have heard nothing since. As for EY, I don't believe that they ever shown any interest in IAH.

KU is in a very deep difficult situation. They are looking for fast fleet leases, and their planes show signs of aging and constant technical difficulties. So, they will not consider Houston for the time being unless they get new planes to replace the ones they have, and other ones for replacements.



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3564 times:



Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
It is forcast to be profitable for the airline as these are two centers of oil producing cities.

Qatar? Oil? Qatar hardly produces any oil, I think its around 600,000 barrels a day...the lowest quota in OPEC. Qatar's raison d'etre is natural gas. I guess the point of this route is to serve the oil-traffic from the region as opposed to the oil barons already in Doha. I presume the same is true for Emirates and their DXB-IAH route.



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3537 times:

Houston is no slouch in the natural gas sector either though. I'm just anxious to see how the two carriers are going to coexist - plus once CO 787s come online - things could get interesting and or ugly. Kind of off topic but do you guys think that KE is awaiting 787s to start IAH service?


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User currently offlineCMB320 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 414 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

I find it interesting we haven't heard anything from Houston Airport System (HAS) yet.

User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17657 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3490 times:

It'll have to be mostly connecting pax over DOH since the DOH market is miniscule, and with EK in the market to DXB and beyond, what advantages does QR have over EK in terms of network beyond their respective hubs?


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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4800 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3429 times:

QR would use their B 77Ls for this route so the question is when will they be delivered? QR states that by mid 2008 IAH would begin, but will 2 B 77Ls be delivered by then to them to launch daily flights?

If not then we might see an A 346 being used via Europe to IAH as this aircraft cannot fly DOH-IAH nonstop !


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4689 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3421 times:



Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 4):
Will the 77W be payload restricted in either direction at all do we know?



Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 8):
So they are using the 77W on the route?

Where does it say that they'll use the 77W? The article only says they'll use it on DOH-IAD, but doesn't mention the aircraft to be used on DOH-IAH.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17079 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3381 times:



Quoting A342 (Reply 18):
Where does it say that they'll use the 77W?

It doesn't says that, but it is going to be a non-stop service so it has to be the 77W, because their A346 cant do that service non-stop.



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12515 posts, RR: 35
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

Some very interesting comments by Al-Baker in this Flight article:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ater-acquisition-for-regional.html

- Looking for a new 100 seat regional aircraft, with the E-jets, Canadair CRJ, Mitsubishi regional jet and in particular, the new C-series being mentioned, since the latter will come into service around the time QR wants them.
- QR has decided not to exercise options on remaining A346s and its likely that these aircraft will be phased out before the A330s (around 2011-12, I'm guessing, from the article)
- The A330s will begin to be phased out around the time that the last 787s arrive.
- A new leasing company, Oryx Leasing, is to be set up to handling leasing of the "older" acft in the QR fleet as they're being phased out. He's talking about a lifetime of only about 5-10 years in the fleet?!!


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17079 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3318 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 20):
Looking for a new 100 seat regional aircraft, with the E-jets, Canadair CRJ, Mitsubishi regional jet and in particular, the new C-series being mentioned, since the latter will come into service around the time QR wants them.

That is really interesting.

If QR goes for the Mitsubishi jet, which I doubt, it will be a major boost for Mitsubishi.



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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4689 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3298 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 19):
It doesn't says that, but it is going to be a non-stop service so it has to be the 77W, because their A346 cant do that service non-stop.

Not really. The A346HGW and the 77W have almost exactly the same range. If one aircraft can't do it, there's a 99% chance the other can't either.

DOH-IAH is 7000nm, quite a stretch for both aircraft if QR wants a meaningful cargo capacity westbound. I bet the 77L will be used.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17079 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3298 times:



Quoting A342 (Reply 22):
DOH-IAH is 7000nm, quite a stretch for both aircraft if QR wants a meaningful cargo capacity westbound

That is true, therefore they will use the 77L



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3985 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3252 times:
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 cry  ................another route we can't fly due to lack of a/c


okay, I'm waiting for the rich to spread the wealth around to me. Please mail your checks to my house.
25 YOWza : Let's not nitpick at the semantics. NG can be liquefied and guess what it's the same core of companies involved in both resources. YOWza
26 COflyerBOS : Great news for IAH. I wonder what the flight times will be? Terminal D airlines need more company!
27 Triley1057 : Please...you think CO would actually start a route from IAH? I think it would be EWR with "convenient" 1 stop service from IAH. Personally, I fly to
28 Thomasphoto60 : Well, EK's skeds show arrivals sometime around 4:30PM, so it would not surprise me to see a similar arrival time for QR. If I am not mistaken, most o
29 ATCT : Glad to see some more expansion. EK, additional AF Cargo, and now QR. Awesome. Cayman wasnt really a big loss as Continental serves the run to Grand C
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