KarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2926 posts, RR: 9 Posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3794 times:
I am excited about the prospect of this new service since it will utilize fuel saving aircraft on applicable routes. For the sake of an airline's balance sheet and fuel expenditures I hope more airlines will seize this golden opportunity. Like all of you I am fully aware of the dislike by most passengers of any turboprop aircraft. However costs are a reality of our times and I am sure that some of the smaller regional cities would rather have this type of service than no service at all.
Stapleton From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 270 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3647 times:
My guess is that they announce Lynx service to mostly existing cities, ELP, OKC, TUL plus the previously announced, BIL, ABQ, RAP, ICT, SUX and then add COS with mostly Lynx service (then adding one daily mainline RON once the maintenance base opens.) This would account for approximately 30 departures per day out of DEN (just over 3 round-trip operations per aircraft with an operational spare.) Then they can use some of the E175 to augment longer range markets.
TSRA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 198 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3516 times:
Quoting Stapleton (Reply 4): My guess is that they announce Lynx service to mostly existing cities, ELP, OKC, TUL plus the previously announced, BIL, ABQ, RAP, ICT, SUX and then add COS with mostly Lynx service
I would also guess some new stations announced in January and February when the rest of the aircraft arrive.
Quickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3200 times:
I wonder if Express jet is signed up for a certain period of time or just until the Q's start flying?
Also, where will they park these birds? I'm assuming they can't use a jet bridge. It's amazing that even with the extra UAL gates they picked up, things are already getting crowded again.
Flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1856 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3122 times:
I was out there a while ago, and the lynx aircraft were parked over on F9s regional concourse it shares with lakes. Infact If I remember right it was quite the site Republic E170, Lynx Q400, Horizon CR7, Express Jet ERJ, Horizon CR7. Lynx Q400, Express Jet ERJ.
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Brick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1571 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2926 times:
Quoting Flyboy80 (Reply 10): I was out there a while ago, and the lynx aircraft were parked over on F9s regional concourse it shares with lakes. Infact If I remember right it was quite the site Republic E170, Lynx Q400, Horizon CR7, Express Jet ERJ, Horizon CR7. Lynx Q400, Express Jet ERJ
Yep, I saw a Lynx Q400 on Monday at Concourse A when I took a Continental flight out of the same concourse. The aircraft was very backlit, so I couldn't catch the reg.
Mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 22711 posts, RR: 88 Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2721 times:
Quoting TSRA (Reply 17): Mariner, didn't you say it only takes about 48 hours to get a certificate after proving runs? That means it is possible there will be Q400s with passengers flying in them by weeks end!
I said it here in another thread, but it didn't come from me, it came from Frontier, in the article linked in the OP:
DenverDanny From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2664 times:
Quoting Quickmover (Reply 1): Wonder if it's too late to catch some of the upcoming ski traffic? Perhaps it doesn't take that long to set up a station in places like Aspen or Steamboat.
Most of the ski resorts aren't even open or fully open yet (no snow). Plus they run well into March and beyond. We are just getting a big storm in the mountains right now bringing 1-3 feet of snow. So, the resorts are just going to be getting going this following week. i have a friend who teaches snowboard up at aspen/snowmass, and there was no work for him around thanksgiving (traditional opening time for resorts) because no snow = no people. So, I feel there is plenty of time for Frontier to do it if they want.
just by chance i was looking for flights last night from Denver to Durango for next week. Cheapest flights $961 round trip, at least for the times we were looking. I looked into Telluride and it was $550-600. Lynx could really go into both of those markets and hold their own. I believe Telluride would be a great location, not only for skiing, but for summer activities in that area. I just don't think they are on the radar though. I have a feeling it will be more popular skiing destinations Aspen being one of them. Though Telluride is popular, it is at least 5-6 hours of driving from Denver and last I heard, they were getting up to 5ft of snow today. Not bad for skiing.
Transpac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3139 posts, RR: 14 Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2543 times:
Quoting Quickmover (Reply 21): ASE is a given but Telluride and Durango have alot of potential too.
Indeed, ASE is a given. Our UAX flights to ASE constantly go full. I haven't seen our winter schedule to ASE yet, but I think we're running them every 45 minutes between the CR7's and DH2's.
A flight to TEX might not be the best idea though, especially if started during winter. Great Lakes currently has the only DEN-TEX service, and is only run during daylight hours as all IAP's into TEX are authorized during daylight hours only. Also, TEX does not have a precision approach, they only have a GPS, LOC/DME, and VOR/DME, all of them with extremely high minimums .....2000' MDA, 2sm visibility...... or higher.
With any adverse winter weather, most all TEX flights are forced to divert.....and would not be the best introductory flight for Lynx. TEX would be best suited to be started in the summer, if at all.
Quickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2543 times:
Quoting CarsAir04 (Reply 22): just by chance i was looking for flights last night from Denver to Durango for next week. Cheapest flights $961 round trip, at least for the times we were looking. I looked into Telluride and it was $550-600.
UAL sure seems to be taking advantage of the route. On 12/14, I count 7 nonstops on DEN-DRO.
Interesting that they have a dash 8-200 flight at 8:55 pm and a crj200 departure 10 minutes later at 9:05. The crj200 gets to DRO 10 minutes sooner than the dash 8 (FWIW).
25 Ytib: They have code share service to TEX already, so why would they impact that relationship when the aircraft could be used elsewhere. Also Telluride does
26 Quickmover: I'm not so sure about that. It's not like they just decided last week to fly to ASE some day. I would bet they have been working with the airport for
27 DenverDanny: I'm gonna disagree with this. Sure, people buy their tickets ahead of time for normal travel... but ski resorts are something a bit different. Whenev
28 CarsAir04: According to the aspen website, closing date is mid April. Assume the date given in the article, Dec. 7th for approval. Then give another 60 days to g
29 Quickmover: I just can't see why it would take 60 days to get a station open. Surely some of the early work is already done. 30 days maybe.
30 Flyboy80: The Lynx plane looks very nice, are all the tails going to have baby animals on them?
31 CarsAir04: no. The first couple did, but there are adult animals on them now.
32 Tripleboom: A good reason for that is probably the lack of Q400 a/c currently. With 8 E-170s flying for Frontier right now, No QX CRJs anymore, and no Q400s, the
33 KarlB737: Update to original topic: Certification could hit today. Courtesy: KWCH-TV Frontier's Regional Turboprop Operation Could Start Thursday http://www.kwc
34 Ytib: Actually service starts on Friday afternoon (today). Details here: Lynx Aviation Receives Approval! (by Tripleboom Dec 4 2007 in Civil Aviation)
35 Slider: Actaully, they can with a jetbridge adaptor, similar to RJs with airstairs that drop down.
36 Tripleboom: Yup. Boarded via JetWay in Sioux City yesterday. Watch your head on the entry through that main cabin door. It might be 6'4" in the aisle, but it's l
37 Quickmover: How was the ride? Did it seem like the plane climbs as fast as advertised? Is it quiet?
38 Tripleboom: Compared to similarly sized aircraft I found the noise level no louder than a CRJ, and a few rides toward the back of a CR7 I found to be noisier tha