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Who Get's The Next A380?  
User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1692 posts, RR: 11
Posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10617 times:

Well, you have read the question. Also, when will it be delivered? Is there a website?


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User currently offlineNcfc99 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 739 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10519 times:

SQ get the second and third A380's. The second will be delivered early January and the third in Feburary.

User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10507 times:

Second A380 will be delivered to SQ as 9V-SKB, in March 2008.
Third ship also to SQ as 9V-SKC, in April 2008.
Regards.



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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5049 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10501 times:

That is pretty slow, isn't it? I mean, from october 2007 to april 2008 and only 3 deliveries. Imagine how long it will take to deliver 150 of them! Not in our lifetimes! they DO plan on increasing production speed, right?

bruce



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User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10459 times:



Quoting Bruce (Reply 4):
they DO plan on increasing production speed, right?

Yes. From 1 a year in 2007 to 45 a year in 2010(?)


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30855 posts, RR: 86
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10422 times:
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Quoting Bruce (Reply 4):
they DO plan on increasing production speed, right?

Airbus expects to deliver 13 A380s in 2008, 25 in 2009 and 44 from 2010 onwards.

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 2):
Second A380 will be delivered to SQ as 9V-SKB, in March 2008.
Third ship also to SQ as 9V-SKC, in April 2008.

That is later then the last data I read (January 2008 for 9V-SKB and February for 9V-SKC). Is there a delay in outfitting or securing their individual production certificates?

[Edited 2007-12-01 12:20:09]

User currently offlineNcfc99 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 739 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10372 times:



Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 2):
Second A380 will be delivered to SQ as 9V-SKB, in March 2008.
Third ship also to SQ as 9V-SKC, in April 2008.
Regards.

As Stich has said, it is later than I have heard. I believe SQ are wanting to start SIN-LHR in March, and they will need 3 aircraft to do that and the currant SYD rotation.


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10364 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
Airbus expects to deliver 13 A380s in 2008, 25 in 2009 and 44 from 2010 onwards.

Onwards til when? With the firm orders Airbus currently has for the A380, they will all be delivered by the end of 2012.


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10305 times:

So what is the next airline to get the A380, be it no.4.


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17061 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10292 times:



Quoting Captaink (Reply 8):
So what is the next airline to get the A380, be it no.4.

QF???



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12427 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10258 times:

I thought Emirates was the next carrier to receive an A380?

User currently offlineThegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10247 times:

According to Wikipedia, Emirates are getting the 4th, 6th and 8th delivery, with Singapore airlines getting the 5th, 7th and 9th. QF don't get one until the 10th, which they are expecting in August 2008.

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10237 times:

Bruce, they play it safe, that´s why. Sure they deliver 150 within a few years.

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17061 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10197 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 10):
I thought Emirates was the next carrier to receive an A380?

You are right, EK is he carrier that will get the 4th A380.



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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10141 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 7):
Onwards til when? With the firm orders Airbus currently has for the A380, they will all be delivered by the end of 2012.

Oh please  Yeah sure

There will be more orders coming in. The A380 will keep airbus busy for years to come.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30855 posts, RR: 86
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10063 times:
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Quoting 474218 (Reply 7):
Onwards til when? With the firm orders Airbus currently has for the A380, they will all be delivered by the end of 2012.

June of 2013, as I recall.

But yes, to sustain that production level will require a steady influx of new orders.


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9817 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 15):
June of 2013, as I recall.

But yes, to sustain that production level will require a steady influx of new orders.

According to the Airbus web site they have firm orders for 165 A380's.

1 delivery in 2007, 13 in 2008, 25 in 2009, 45 in 2010, 2011, and 2012 = 174. So my original statement stands.

Quoting 474218 (Reply 7):
With the firm orders Airbus currently has for the A380, they will all be delivered by the end of 2012.



User currently offlineWingedMigrator From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2212 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9563 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 16):
According to the Airbus web site they have firm orders for 165 A380's.

I would focus more on order intake rate. This year has been better than most, with 37 new orders & commitments (and unfortunately, 10 cancellations by UPS). That's not like other A & B models this year, which are more often than not gathering orders at twice the production rate, but it's not too far off 45 per year, especially since it's early yet. Then again, it's a cyclical industry, currently at its peak...

Bottom line: Airbus has plenty of time before they need to consider whether to cut back production.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21500 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9474 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 16):
1 delivery in 2007, 13 in 2008, 25 in 2009, 45 in 2010, 2011, and 2012 = 174. So my original statement stands.

No. Not everyone takes planes as soon as they can be built. There have been some 2013 deferrals as well as some original delivery schedules through 2013, so that means that they have FREE SLOTS in 2012, possibly even a couple in 2011, though i think EK may have just ordered those extras basically filling in those slots. They won't post until Airbus updates their spreadsheet next week.

I think they have 185+ firm A380 orders now.



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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9385 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 15):

But yes, to sustain that production level will require a steady influx of new orders.

I would suspect there is no assumption on anyone's part that Airbus will maintain 45 units per year forever. It's normal for the production rate to go up and down (over a several year cycle).

Tom.


User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9354 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 7):
Onwards til when? With the firm orders Airbus currently has for the A380, they will all be delivered by the end of 2012.



Quoting 474218 (Reply 16):
According to the Airbus web site they have firm orders for 165 A380's.

1 delivery in 2007, 13 in 2008, 25 in 2009, 45 in 2010, 2011, and 2012 = 174. So my original statement stands.

Well, if you really want to play at semantics, it's pretty self-explanatory......onwards until the last one is delivered!!


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30855 posts, RR: 86
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8891 times:
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Quoting 474218 (Reply 16):
According to the Airbus web site they have firm orders for 165 A380's.

They actually have 193 firm orders. Airbus only updates their order sheet on a monthly basis, and then only after the final paperwork is signed.

So they have 154 planes left to deliver starting in January of 2010, which at a delivery rate of 44 per annum, is exactly 42 months. So that would be June of 2013.

Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 19):
I would suspect there is no assumption on anyone's part that Airbus will maintain 45 units per year forever. It's normal for the production rate to go up and down (over a several year cycle).

Of course.  Smile


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8746 times:

The tentative delivery dates for the second, third, and fourth WhaleJets are 8 January, 8 February, and 8 April (all to SQ as 9V-SKB, 9V-SKC, and 9V-SKD).

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8704 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 21):
They actually have 193 firm orders.

Have you read the Airbus web site, it states 165, but then it could be wrong.


User currently offlineWingedMigrator From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2212 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8688 times:



Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 2):
Second A380 will be delivered to SQ as 9V-SKB, in March 2008.
Third ship also to SQ as 9V-SKC, in April 2008.



Quoting Zvezda (Reply 22):
The tentative delivery dates for the second, third, and fourth WhaleJets are 8 January, 8 February, and 8 April (all to SQ as 9V-SKB, 9V-SKC, and 9V-SKD).

So who's right?


25 Post contains links WingedMigrator : The latest official number (including November) appears to be 177. BA and Marsans have yet to firm. Maybe in December? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L
26 Zvezda : Despite my tendency to be cynical in all things, I've heard these dates from both Airbus and SQ (most recently two days ago) so, I think there is a g
27 Apollo13 : With two new A380s for SQ in 2008, does this mean we will see one at SFO anytime soon?
28 Zvezda : Huh? SQ should be getting four or five WhaleJets in 2008. The soonest we might see service at SFO would be late 2008.
29 AeroplaneFreak : THIS IS WRONG. I have a friend who works for Airbus and she said that QF will be getting the A380 second and EK third.
30 Glideslope : If the numbers are on. This has yet to be determined. Every bus since the 320/330 has underperformed. There may very well be more orders. However, no
31 Stitch : Yes I did. But, as I noted, Airbus does not update their order book in "real time", but only at the end of every month. So the 165 frames was the A38
32 Haan : Howdy. Emirates will get thier first one in August 2008. Some of the first A380 deliveries for Emirates will be. Cheers No. MSN 2008 1 011 August 2 01
33 Zvezda : That was the plan, but I'm now hearing June or July from sources at Airbus. We'll see.
34 Post contains links WingedMigrator : One would expect the planes to go into finishing at XFW roughly in delivery order. Currently, XFW has three SQ frames, one EK frame and zero QF frame
35 Post contains links Gemuser : It's not unusual for an aircraft to be unable to lift both full payload AND full tanks, in fact most can't. The extreme example I know of is the Cess
36 PlaneHunter : And what exactly does that statement mean...? PH
37 Post contains images Norcal773 : Long time Zvezda... SFO via HKG or via ICN? I am excited, this is my only foeseable chance I can see of me riding on the Whalejet.
38 Zvezda : Probably SIN-HKG-SFO. The number of days per year with a tech stop at TPE should be reduced somewhat. SQ would very much like to eliminate those tech
39 Post contains images Norcal773 : Or the 789.
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