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Jetblue Plane Slides Off Runway @ SYR  
User currently offlineB727 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 522 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 12 months 20 hours ago) and read 16510 times:

http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/stor...b9dba3-82ed-4cc2-9f80-5955b4d78696

Story link above.


B727
Glenn

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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7802 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (6 years 12 months 19 hours ago) and read 16334 times:

I flew out of SYR on the 7pm flight to CLT. And there was already freezing drizzle on and off most of the day. Some parts of the ramp resembled an ice rink. So it isn't much of a shock that something skidded off the runway last night. Just glad I wasn't on it.


Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineAApilot2b From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 15875 times:

Wow! Just glad it wasn't any worse. Sounds like it was a long ordeal for everyone.... I'm just wondering why no one had the sense to check the gate area and ensure it was cleared of ice before the aircraft arrived. After all, once the A320 had slid off the runway, one would think they had plenty of time to clear the gate area.

User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 15830 times:



Quoting AApilot2b (Reply 2):
I'm just wondering why no one had the sense to check the gate area and ensure it was cleared of ice before the aircraft arrived. After all, once the A320 had slid off the runway, one would think they had plenty of time to clear the gate area.

What makes you think the gate area wasn't clear of ice?


User currently offline787EWR From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 15767 times:



Quoting ArcrftLvr (Reply 3):
What makes you think the gate area wasn't clear of ice?

In the video, the reported indicated that when the plane arrived at the ramp, they had to deice the mechanism in the gate because it was frozen. Added more time to the delay.


User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 15738 times:



Quoting 787EWR (Reply 4):
In the video, the reported indicated that when the plane arrived at the ramp, they had to deice the mechanism in the gate because it was frozen. Added more time to the delay.

Got it. Didn't watch the video and the story didn't mention anything, which was why I was asking...Anyway, good question; why wouldn't they have ensured the gate area was deiced?


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 12 months 16 hours ago) and read 15152 times:

Good old "Siberyracuse"! One of the places I don't miss from October to April. BGM and ROC was bad enough.


EMB145 F/A, F/E, J41 F/A, F/E, because my wife clipped my wings, armchair captain
User currently offlineBoeingpride800 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 430 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 12 months 16 hours ago) and read 14825 times:

If the plane was stuck on the runway did that mean they closed the runway? If they did, then wouldn't that cause a problem seeing as there is only one long runway at SYR?

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7802 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (6 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 14646 times:



Quoting Boeingpride800 (Reply 7):
If the plane was stuck on the runway did that mean they closed the runway? If they did, then wouldn't that cause a problem seeing as there is only one long runway at SYR?

Probably... but at 10pm on a Sunday night there isn't a ton of activity to begin with. And runway 15/33 would have been available as well.... its 7000' and has instrument approaches.



Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineAdman737 From Ecuador, joined Sep 2007, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 14422 times:

Which jetblue planes was it? Was it damaged I can't get on the link cause I am on my cell phone and there is something wrong with it.

User currently offlineMSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 711 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 13646 times:

Gate areas are not deiced. Never have and with the expense involved never will. The ground crew whom ever they are should have taken the initiative to ensure the ground equipment needed is free of ice. I do not know what weather conditions were last night, but it is possible that the equipment needed was clear of ice and it had re-accumulated on the equipment.

I have been in this situation before, having an aircraft slide off an icy runway (737-400 in CLT). 2 hours to get the plane and passengers to the gate and deplaned is maybe a little long, but certainly not excessive. Especially being that SYR is an outstation for Jet Blue and it is late on Sunday night. Actually the more I think of it, not bad at all.


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 13293 times:

I'm not sure how we lucked out on this deal, but when we flew J41's in SYR for a barely 9 hour overnight for US Express, we'd drop off the pax at the terminal and got to park our ride in one of the hangars. Next morning, the hotel van driver would drive us to the FBO and the FBO would drive us to the hangar, where our J41 was outside of the hanger, deiced (seeing as how it was inside overnight, didn't need to be deiced) clean, and ready to go. We didn't get that service on our PIT flights for US Express or our ORD flights for UA Express for our EMB145's. Then again, the 41 fit in the hangar with the GA aircraft, and the EMB145 didn't. That and a turnaround rate for the 145's where they didn't RON. Now that I think about it, it kind of sucks not having a sure ride the next day waiting for me when we get to the airport.

Side note about SYR, outside of securtiy is a pretty good barber shop. Last time I got my haircut there (I was on a three hour lay over), the barber used a straight razor for the trim on my hair. Ahh, nothing like a good haircut and the smell of Barbosol around my ears and the nape of my neck. Drives my female pax crazy, not to mention my wife once I finally get home. I didn't always have time to go to my local barber in Petersburg, VA, so I had to get my hair cut somewhere.

Other than the Dinosaur Restaurant and the Carousel Mall, Siberycuse ain't all bad. Just the weather sucks most of the year.



EMB145 F/A, F/E, J41 F/A, F/E, because my wife clipped my wings, armchair captain
User currently offlineCurticool From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 12838 times:



Quoting Adman737 (Reply 9):
Which jetblue planes was it?

the name in the pic. looks like Canyon Blue  duck 

-Curticool  Big grin


User currently offlineMtb555 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 12 months 12 hours ago) and read 11278 times:



Quoting Curticool (Reply 12):
the name in the pic. looks like Canyon Blue

god, N536 has been through enough already, now another incident?


User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 12 months 12 hours ago) and read 11161 times:

The media is going to have a field day with this one, if it hasn't already started...  Wink

User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (6 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 10365 times:

Speaking of the "gate area" not being deiced, reminds me of a funny story out of TYS. I was working on the ramp for DALGS and it was a very slick night. The ramp had ice patches everywhere, we hadn't put any salt down for the Pax to walk up the stairs. This one guy with a briefcase walks down the CRJ steps and heads for the gate stairs, I manage to poke my head out of the back of the RJ and happen to see him eat it hard. The Briefcase goes flyin, pops open and papers go flyin everywhere. I fall back into the cargo hold, laughing my butt off. My friends that were outside that had to deal with it first hand said, he was cussing every word in the book. So a note to all the rampers out there, make sure the walkway is clear lol.


Booooo Lois, Yaaaa Beer!!!
User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 10208 times:

From what the report says, the passengers thought Jetblue handled the situation pretty well. Also some of us like snow like me (in fact there's a blizzard outside my window as I'm writing this). It's fun being able to throw a snowball especially when you're feeling angry. We here in Syracuse are used to the snow and love it plus living in the area alllows one to experience a good variety of weather. BTW SYR's other runway is long enough for jets (7500 feet) (http://flightaware.com/resources/airport/KSYR/APD/AIRPORT+DIAGRAM) and I've seen regular mainline jets taking off from it (like an AA MD80). Also the airport is one of 2 places that that I can find my favorite kind of yogurt (the other being at SU).

User currently offline60Victor From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 9925 times:

I live about 60 miles east of the Syracuse Airport. Due to the bad Weather last night at around 10:30 PM EST I tuned into the Live ATC.net to listen to what was going on at SYR. At approximately 10:45 PM EST Jet Blue Flight #660, an A320 reported after landing on runway 10 that the taxiway mike braking action was nil. Next they reported that they had skidded off the Taxiway a little and were stuck. The tug that was dispatched to pull them out was not able to pull them out as the ice was causing their wheels to spin. A sand truck was sent out to help. During this time Runway 10 was shut down, leaving runway 15 the shorter runway open. Nobody seemed to want and land on the shorter runway.
An inbound US Airways Flight #1110 decided to divert to Pittsburgh. After they got the A320 moved they reopened Runway 10 and planes started landing again. I did not hear anything about the frozen Jetway until it appeared on the news.

60Victor


User currently offlineAIRBUSRIDER From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 208 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 9211 times:

Not Canyon Blue, the photo is showing N528JB "Mi Corazon Azul"


No Officer, I am not a Terrorist !
User currently offlineLuiePL From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 8704 times:



Quoting WSYR9:
JetBlue Says Plane Did Not Skid Off Runway

http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/stor...b9dba3-82ed-4cc2-9f80-5955b4d78696

Looks like the report was only from the passengers stand point, and the news didn't wait to confirm any information first.



-Luie PHL-
User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 8517 times:



Quoting Mtb555 (Reply 13):

god, N536 has been through enough already, now another incident?

Was that the one that had the incident at LAX two years ago?



[NOT IN SERVICE] {WEStJet}
User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 8459 times:



Quoting PilotNTrng (Reply 15):
Speaking of the "gate area" not being deiced, reminds me of a funny story out of TYS. I was working on the ramp for DALGS and it was a very slick night. The ramp had ice patches everywhere, we hadn't put any salt down for the Pax to walk up the stairs. This one guy with a briefcase walks down the CRJ steps and heads for the gate stairs, I manage to poke my head out of the back of the RJ and happen to see him eat it hard. The Briefcase goes flyin, pops open and papers go flyin everywhere. I fall back into the cargo hold, laughing my butt off. My friends that were outside that had to deal with it first hand said, he was cussing every word in the book. So a note to all the rampers out there, make sure the walkway is clear lol.

That's funny, right there. If I were the F/A though, I'd get blamed. I've had some overnights in TYS. If you ain't from down the way, you don't realize, the South does get cold. Last time I went to visit family in my hometown of HSV, I was staying with my cousin in Paint Rock, AL and he didn't have central heating. It may have been 70 degrees during the day, but it got down to the 20's at night. I woke up the next morning on his couch and I could see my breath, and that's not from the moonshine the night before. Cool thing though, we could bow hunt deer from his second story window and it's legal.

Last time I ate the ground was in Charlie West and as I was trying to open up our J41, I slipped on ice (yeah, they just deiced the plane too and the fluid was already frozen). People inside the terminal heard me cussing up a storm. Even worse is the door seal was bad and that short hop to PIT all we heard was whistling and the cabin never got warm, and I had a hangover, and the flu. At least it was the last day of a four day and only five more legs to go, and luckily we were changing aircraft in PIT.



EMB145 F/A, F/E, J41 F/A, F/E, because my wife clipped my wings, armchair captain
User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 8433 times:

According to Aviation safety network (http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20050921-0) the answer to the previous question is yes. BTW whatever happened was severe enough that the plane couldn't taxi to the terminal on it's own.

User currently offlineN710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (6 years 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 7065 times:



Quoting Xtoler (Reply 21):
Cool thing though, we could bow hunt deer from his second story window and it's legal.

Sign me up for a visit!



There is plenty of room for Gods animals, right next to the mashed potatoes!
User currently offlineSkoker From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 440 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 7065 times:



Quoting AIRBUSRIDER (Reply 18):
N528JB "Mi Corazon Azul"

Damn, that's my favorite jetBlue plane  Sad


25 FreakyDeaky : Hate to interupt the over-drama but the airplane did not leave the pavement. The ramp or taxiway was too icy to taxi so they asked for a tow-in to the
26 Peh : Another example of the media's need to be first, rather than right.
27 Post contains images Curticool : Yes -Curticool
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