KarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3243 posts, RR: 10 Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2749 times:
In the supplied info it states that the airline goals mentioned here are "lofty", however you have got to hand it to RFD for thinking, planning and initiating ideas that have produced some favorable results in the last few years. They have had some good luck after a bumpy start. They know the serious need to be aggressive as a regional player. They know they have to reach out and market the southern Wisconsin area in addition to their own immediate area. They have used some creativity in their reach for Allegiant.
The first article clearly states that they want to be that "third" airport as well. Personally I would like to see both RFD and GYY succeed on both sides of Chicago because I believe both will be required to provide enough "relief" to ORD especially with its frequent expansions. So to both RFD & GYY I say go for it.
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3163 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2722 times:
I do not see very large legacy operations at RFD. UA to DEN seems to be working for now, but NW to DTW and MSP has not worked in the past. With some subsidies maybe a SF3 flight to MSP or DTW could work. The only other expansion from legacies that i see possibly is CO to CLE with their recent expansion there, or DL to ATL. Both of those i'd say are a long-shot but could work if RFD helped pay some of the costs.
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EXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2705 times:
Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 1): I do not see very large legacy operations at RFD. UA to DEN seems to be working for now, but NW to DTW and MSP has not worked in the past. With some subsidies maybe a SF3 flight to MSP or DTW could work. The only other expansion from legacies that i see possibly is CO to CLE with their recent expansion there, or DL to ATL. Both of those i'd say are a long-shot but could work if RFD helped pay some of the costs.
I honestly dont think anything other than AA or UA could work in RFD....reason UA is workign i belive is that there are already lots of mileage plus customers oin RFD...ditto i bet aadvantage......here is what ive noticed...people would rather drive and fly nonstop than take a connecting flight...why fly to CLE to get a flight to say BOS when you can go to BOS nonstop from ORD???
Cargo, leisure destinations like LAS, MCO, CUN and UA to DEN and maybe AA to DFW are all that RFD can probably hope for
Access-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1941 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2634 times:
I think the SAAB 340 flights should be put back into RFD from MSP.....We get alot of people from our booking area that would like to fly to MSP and beyond on NW....
I used to fly that route quite abit when it was Express I Airlines and yes for a while they had the J-31s on the route but they did ugrade to the SAAB 340. I actually video taped one of my flights from RFD-MSP in Jetstream 31, N334PX, ironically on the plane that later crashed in Hibbing.
Anyway, the service to MSP was a good thing as it had been in place since about 1986. It might not be a SAAB 340 market tho thats the thing...As soon as Mesaba took over the route, then it magically became too expensive to fly?!?!?!
Mesaba also flew RFD-DTW but only after that market was left by Skyway Airlines Beech 1900s on a purley O&D basis...Mesaba attempted to do the fligths with the SAAB but that didnt last too long, they did actually re-enter the RFD-DTW maerket with a couple of CRJ's to DTW but quickly left....Apparently they couldnt get the RFD airport authority to Subsidize their operation there so it was byebye..........
Actually Murray Air flies a SAAB 340 betwen RFD and Pontiac Airport up in Michigan a couple times a week on a scheduled run. Yes, the same Murray Air that flies the DC8s.....They also have some Jetstream 31s running on some other routes as well....
Maybe with Turboprops coming back in vogue, we might see some more in the future.....RFD is a destination airport waiting to happen, the same as Moline. You just need airlines to go in and develope the markets rather than start a service and expect a hand out, free rent or free landing fees....Part of doing business is marketing and developement. That comes part and parcel with Sales representatives that go out and SELL the airline......
CIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2486 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2572 times:
I think perhaps UA to IAD could work, would give pax the option for east coast destinations on UA, and tap into the large mileage plus member base who are using the DEN flights and find the airport a convenient alternative to ORD.. AA would probably also work, with maybe flights to DFW and LGA.
Dc10s2hnl From New Zealand, joined Aug 2006, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2482 times:
I stopped by here a few years ago before Allegiant and OO started flights and it was completely strange to be in an open for business, well-lit and clean terminal with NO service. Such a shame, especially since ORD and MDW are crazy.
Wasn't there talk about getting some sort of public rail project from the NW suburbs to RFD, or has that vanished into bureaucratic limbo?
When ORD totally cracks open in the future, the relievers are essential... if the politicians had the foresight to set up a system to get people out there easily, perhaps things will work out for 'em.