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Is Swissair Not Allowed To Paint Winglets Anymore?  
User currently offlineGibberish From Switzerland, joined Sep 2000, 424 posts, RR: 2
Posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

I've heard that the Swiss government has stopped Swissair from painting their winglets with Swiss flags. They say Swissair only has the right to use the flag on the tails of their aircraft!

Is this true and does anybody know why?

I think it sucks! Especially the MD-11s looked great with painted winglets!


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Thanks!

gibberish

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User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

Definitely not true!! Its because some members of the Board said that it doesnt look good. Simple as that. SR can paint the flag where they want.

Avion
For more information look at a link in my profile.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1852 times:

Beg your pardon,

The government allows airlines to put the Swiss flag on 2 places - on the tail and a small flag next to the registration on the fuselage. Swissair does not do to fuselage thing, but Easyjet Switzerland does, for one.

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I can't think of anyone who thinks that the winglet flags don't look good.

The Swiss authorities, after an initial period of saying, "no, you can't do that, and you have to remove the ones you have already done" are now thinking (wow!) that maybe their initial reaction was too much, and maybe the rule will be changed. We'll see. But right now, the repainting is stopped, and the ones that have the winglets will stay that way at least until the government decides on the issue.

Charles


User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1840 times:

Cfalk:

Where did you hear that?

Avion


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

A Swissair MD-11 Captain I flew with about a month ago told me this. The same was told to me by a fellow spotter in Geneva who works at the airport with Jet Aviation, and who talks to a lot of Swissair folks (he also gets to take pics from the tarmac, ggrrr!)

Granted, it's hearsay from both sides, but independant, so I suppose there is something in there.

I was also told that if they "disguise" the flag, and make it look something like the new Crossair logo, that would be OK to put on the wingtips, as it would simply a design which has some elements of the flag, but is not the flag itself.

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Bureaucracy in action...  Smile

Charles


User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

OK, thanks.

I have read it in the BLICK. Which is not a very serious source either.

Do you live in GVA?? And are you english if i many ask.

Avion



User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Hi,

Yes I live in GVA, and am Swiss (born in Luzern), although I spent most of my school years in the U.S..

Cheers,

Charles


User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1779 times:

Hey Cfalk

Would be cool if you could join our Swissair E-group.

The address is in my profile.

Avion


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1768 times:

Avion,

Already I'm spending enough time with Airliners.net to get me either fired or divorced (possibly both!), plus all the time I spend hanging around airports.

Thanks for the offer, though!

Cheers,

Charles


User currently offlinePanman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Aug 1999, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1766 times:

It's funny. When I mentioned that Swissair wasn't allowed by law to paint the flag on the winglets about 2 months back I was laughed at and everyone was saying it's not true.

I don't hear some much disagreement now.

PANMAN


User currently offlineJAT From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 1101 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1745 times:

There are actuall laws govening the use of a flag, such as where you can and can not put it? Doesn't that limit people's freedom? Interesting... I never knew such laws existed. Here in Canada you can do whatever you like with a flag.

User currently offlineSR3496 From Switzerland, joined May 2000, 792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1739 times:

I´m Swiss and I can do what I want with our flag as well. (I think I can...) I never heard of such a rule in our constitution.

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1731 times:

I don't think it's a constitutional issue. It's a law (or policy maybe?) applied specifically to airlines, as I understand it.

Charles


User currently offlineGibberish From Switzerland, joined Sep 2000, 424 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1696 times:

Well, whatever it is, cfalk, it's stupid! I love those painted winglets! What about the Canton's flags they name the longhauls after? That would be another possibility to decorate the winglets! What do you think?

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1691 times:

Gibberish,

Excellent Idea! I love it.

Charles


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