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JetBlue Skids Off JFK Runway  
User currently offlineVarsity From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 249 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 8 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

JetBlue Airways flight 88 landed safely this morning at New York's JFK Airport at 8:08am from Ontario Internatioanl Airport in California.

However, the aircraft slid off the runway 4R, at low speed, while turning to leave the runway.  Wow!

The aircraft had 139 passengers and 6 crew onboard. No injuires have been reported, nor damage to the aircraft.

Passengers were transferred to the terminal via people movers and are now all at the terminal.


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User currently offlineUSAirways737 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1026 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1813 times:

Do the pilots get fired when that happens of do they just have to go through more training before they are allowed to fly again?

User currently offline777boy From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1802 times:

jetBlue handeled it real nicely though. All the pax were back to the terminal within 90 mins, and were given food and beverages along the way. On top of that, every passenger was given compensation (full refund for that flight).

Matt

PS: I doubt that jetBlue would fire pilots, they just don't seem like that kind of airline. This was not as severe a situation as SW's flight at BUR, as I see it.


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 3 days ago) and read 1768 times:

The amazing thing:

Look at the load for that A320! A red-eye, too!

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

Given that it snowed all night in NY and it was icy all day Saturday and Sunday, this comes as no surprise
and should be hardly considered "newsworthy".

The fact that no-one was injured is probably a good
sign that the pilots were going out of their way to
avoid an incident, however small.

As for the WN accident at Burbank, I believe it was
pilot error (coming into landing too fast).

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineKellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 693 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (13 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1726 times:

Before somebody should think about firing the pilots, how about checking the aircraft to see if everything was working ok, such as the antiskid system, nose wheel steering, engine controls, etc.

It may have been a pilot error in JFK but I remember an incident where an L-1011 ran off the side of the runway after starting its takeoff roll in Palm Beach, where the #1 engine was slow to spool up, the aircraft was lightly loaded, and the nose wheel steering was ineffective and the pilot could not control the aircraft. And this was on a dry non-icy runway. One never knows until one knows all of the facts.


User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (13 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

That reminds of a story I heard from a United pilot at a banquet.

Back in the late '80's, a UA DC-8-70 taxied into position to takeoff on a slightly icy runway. After takeoff clearance the pilot pushed the levers to takeoff thrust but the numer 1 and 2 engines were not spooling up while 3 and 4 were, causing the aircraft to suddenly veer to the right. The pilot attempted to correct this by putting 3 and 4 into reverse to slow down. This helped straighten the aircraft, however the pilot did not tend to engines 1 and 2 and these finally decided to spool up to takeoff thrust just as the other two were still in reverse causing the long aircraft to skid in a 360 degree circle on the runway. When the tower asked the pilot what had happened, he nonchalantly replied: "Just going around". Meanwhile the pilot of a Delta aircraft awaiting to takeoff behind the United said: "United do that again, do that again"!



User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1708 times:

140 pax is a good load for that ONT red-eye. Apparently, B6 is pleased with the service and is committing the aircraft to the route all day now, with a day-time service to ONT as well as OAK.



User currently offlineVarsity From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1700 times:

Let's not also forget the Tower 747 that skidded off the runway at JFK during takeoff... ops with snow or ice are always tricky. That airplane, as I recall, was written off due to its age vs. the cost of repair (nosewheel failure, damage to engine pods, etc.).

User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4506 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (13 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

It's not surprising to see that JetBlue handled this minor incident so well, crediting all pax with the cost of the flight, feeding them while waiting, etc. It's amazing what a philosophical commitment to customer service will do. Would DL or AA have handled a similar incident at JFK that well? I'm not optomistic.

Jim



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