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Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight  
User currently offlineGlacote From France, joined Jun 2005, 409 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3213 times:

I have booked a return trip from Chicago to south America on AA. The first leg connects in Miami. It turns out I would like to start from LAX instead. I found an AA one-way flight LAX-MIA which would work schedule-wise.

However my guess is that if I don't do the ORD-MIA leg (because I am atually doing LAX-MIA instead) my connecting leg will be automatically cancelled.

Is this true, and is there any way I can register from LAX to my final destination without risking the connection being cancel?

Any hint/advice will be much appreciated! Thank you...

PS: it would have been easier to book it that way to begin with but I failed to do so on aa.com

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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5592 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3152 times:

So if I'm reading correctly, your original itinerary was ORD-MIA-South America, and you want to go instead LAX-MIA-South America.


Pretty simple, just call AA reservations. There's going to be some sort of change fee, but that's it.



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User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3108 times:



Quoting Glacote (Thread starter):
However my guess is that if I don't do the ORD-MIA leg (because I am atually doing LAX-MIA instead) my connecting leg will be automatically cancelled.

You would have to call AA. Not only would your connecting flight be cancelled, but you would not be able to check your bag through from LAX to South America, because the two flights would show as different PNRs.


User currently offlineMcamargo From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

Call them... like mentioned here, if you miss your ORD-MIA flight, automatically your MIA-South America flight will be canceled (if you make a separate reservation LAX-MIA)... call them, pay the change fee, and you'll know you (and your bags) will make it to S. America  Smile


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User currently offlineGlacote From France, joined Jun 2005, 409 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Thanks for the advice.

User currently offlineGlacote From France, joined Jun 2005, 409 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2975 times:



Quoting Chase (Reply 6):
Another option (I'm sure you've already considered it, but just in case) is that you could just buy a LAX-ORD flight.

That's effectively my last resort solution. But it's a waste of time, kerozen and missed opportunity for AA to fill a seat. But if that's the "legal" way to do it then so be it. I won't "fraud" AA.


User currently offlineVisityyj From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2938 times:



Quoting Mcamargo (Reply 3):
pay the change fee

Plus any fare difference; this is actually an entire rebooking not a change to an existing reservation. Of course it might be cheaper, but only if you returned to LAX otherwise you now have a multicity itinerary instead of a PtP round trip.


User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2783 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2883 times:
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Be careful when you rebook. They really hit you hard. I changed a flight one time and it cost me more to change it than it did for the flight! Just FYI
Sully



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User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2822 times:



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 5):
Having a journey booked in 2 diffferent PNR's doesn't stop you through checking. It just means when you check in the agent has to add the oncarriage details, takes 2 seconds

That may be true in the reality world of Amadeus, however in the reality world of airline check-in staff it can take anywhere from 2 seconds to 2 hours depending on their level of experience. They can also refuse to through check you if they don't feel like doing it!


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2718 times:



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 5):
Having a journey booked in 2 diffferent PNR's doesn't stop you through checking. It just means when you check in the agent has to add the oncarriage details, takes 2 seconds.

Some airlines will not through-check baggage when using separate tickets, especially of different airlines are involved. It can create problems determining who is responsible if the bag goes astray or is damaged when the passenger is travelling under two separate contracts.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2707 times:



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 9):
Be careful when you rebook. They really hit you hard. I changed a flight one time and it cost me more to change it than it did for the flight! Just FYI
Sully

Really depends on the type of fare  Smile I'm not sure how it works on AA but with CO and NW If he's on a full-fare ticket, it would be farediff only, no change fee. Choosing a random date, and checking ORD-MIA and LAX-MIA shows only a slight farediff on the lowest available fare classes (about US$30, keep in mind that you would almost certainly have a change fee) and about a 20% premium on full-fare (about US$200, but no change fee)-- and this doesn't include fares that may only appear/be valid on through flights.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
It can create problems determining who is responsible if the bag goes astray or is damaged when the passenger is travelling under two separate contracts.

If the airlines are both members of IATA and participate in the industry agreements on Interline passengers, baggage, and cargo (actually "baggage" is the only important one here), the delivering carrier (i.e. the one who your last flight is on before arriving at your destination) is the one that's responsible for getting you your luggage. Always.

I can understand why an airline wouldn't want to transfer bags if they don't have the agreements in place, that's just common sense. (As a general rule, legacy, erm, "network" airlines such as AA, AS, CO, DL, UA, etc do; most isolated LCCs such as WN, B6, etc. do not)

Though I wouldn't be that excited about trying it because the likelihood of your bag arriving at the same place at the same time as you do is proportional to the competence of the agent... and by the time you can make that judgement, it's already too late.

Lincoln



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2671 times:



Quoting BigOrange (Reply 10):
in the reality world of airline check-in staff it can take anywhere from 2 seconds to 2 hours depending on their level of experience.

It shouldn't - on every PARS-based DCS system in the universe it's the same input usually - 1/O/BA55 LHRJNB - hardly rocket science. And in the reality world of Amadeus the system has already found the seperate oncarriage booking automatically (if you're a frequent flyer or used the same credit card), so the agent doesn't need to do anything  Smile (sorry, brief sales message there)

Quoting BigOrange (Reply 10):
They can also refuse to through check you if they don't feel like doing it!

I suppose there is that possibility, but I've never had a problem like that.


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