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LH MUC - SZG / MUC - INN For EURO08  
User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1042 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

LH is planning a direct link to all EURO 08 cities. That includes a 2 x daily connection MUC - SZG (150km) and obviously also INN.

Must be a crazy flighttime to both locations. 10 minutes on route, 30 minutes in the hold...


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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

well they fly NUE-MUC five times /day - and that's only 160 Km...four flights with ATR42,one in Canadair...


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3003 times:

For sure this will be operated by CRJs or ATRs.


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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9032 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2965 times:
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Quoting B747forever (Reply 2):

Why not 737s or 320s? If there are enough passengers booked or planned?

I flew on my 737 a lot of times: FRA-STR: 157km, FRA-CGN: 136km... Short flights indeed, but sometimes fully booked...
But my shortest flight ever from off block in NUE to on block in FRA was only 34 minutes total and thats 191km  Wink

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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8371 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2898 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 3):
Why not 737s or 320s? If there are enough passengers booked or planned?

My guess is that the flight is likely to attract very few customers. It will likely be primarily for people who are willing to pay the high price, such as UEFA officials and business associates. Even the regular year round FRA-SZG is a very expensive option on LH if you're connecting. For a regular Joe, you're much better off flying into MUC and then driving or taking the bus/train. In fact, used to be that if you booked a flight on BA into SZG, it was actually LHR-MUC-SZG where the MUC-SZG leg would be operated by bus  Smile I'm not sure if they still do that.


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2894 times:



Quoting Macc (Thread starter):

If necessary why not use A330´s? No problem for the airports.  Smile We will see a lot of traffic during the Euro2008!


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2833 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 5):
If necessary why not use A330´s?

A330s!!!! This sounds crazy. First A320s and 737s and now A330s, what up next?? B744???



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2783 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):

They have seen big material already:

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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2774 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 7):
They have seen big material already:

That is true. But I really doubt that LH will send A330s to this airports.



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2768 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 8):

Not LH but I guess others. On the other hand if they can make money why not.  Smile


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2764 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 9):
Not LH but I guess others.

Okey, now I understand.

I thought you meant that LH would send A330s.



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2757 times:

Why not transport some several hundred people. I doubt that we will see a LH A330 but it is possible.  Smile

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2757 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 11):
I doubt that we will see a LH A330 but it is possible.

Trust me, LH will NOT send any A330s.



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2724 times:

I checked now an Austrian Forum and it is written that they will use:

CRJ-900
CRJ-700
ATR-72
Avro RJ85

So no A330. Big grin


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2721 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 13):
checked now an Austrian Forum and it is written that they will use:

CRJ-900
CRJ-700
ATR-72
Avro RJ85

As I said.



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2714 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 14):
As I said.

Yes yes I know Big grin But would be great to see some widebodies and I am sure we will see others. Big grin


User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1042 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2684 times:

the 380 comes way too late...  hissyfit 


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2674 times:



Quoting Macc (Reply 16):
the 380 comes way too late...

LOL.

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 15):
But would be great to see some widebodies and I am sure we will see others

True, we will see some w/o.



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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8371 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2624 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 15):
But would be great to see some widebodies and I am sure we will see others.

You may see some widebody charters as we saw in LIS for Euro2004 but then again, is there enough parking space at SZG for more than a couple of large planes? Also, the stadium at SZG is rather small and depending on who gets to play there, many fans may chose to just travel by road. Unlike Portugal, Austria is right in the middle of Europe and only a day's drive from just about anywhere.


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2604 times:



Quoting Airbazar (Reply 18):
You may see some widebody charters as we saw in LIS for Euro2004 but then again, is there enough parking space at SZG for more than a couple of large planes? Also, the stadium at SZG is rather small and depending on who gets to play there, many fans may chose to just travel by road. Unlike Portugal, Austria is right in the middle of Europe and only a day's drive from just about anywhere.

There will be some but not a lot. VIE and ZRH will see more I guess. That is the big advantage that Austria is in the middle of Europe. Since England, Scotland and Ireland are not participating those are missing as well. Brits usually fly.  Smile


User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1451 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

Maybe My Travel or Monarch could bring some Widebodys to SZG or INN!

But wait, wasn' t England the Team that did mess up their qualification in the last game???  Wink

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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8371 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

Looks like SZG may get lucky after all - Spotting wise. These are the games to be played in Salzburg:
June 10 Greece vs. Sweden
June 14 Greece vs. Russia
June 18 Greece vs. Spain

All of these countries are about as far as you can get from Salzburg and still be in Europe  Smile


User currently offlineAdicool From Netherlands, joined Apr 2007, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2318 times:

This might be a little off topic, but I have to say something here:
Introducing a flight from MUC to INS and SZG is disgusting and very hypocrite of LH and Mayrhuber...
I appreciate LH very much for their work and their service but this is too much. In a recent interview Mayrhuber stated that "people that love the environment would rather fly than going by car" and that using and a/c is always less pollutive from 350km distance onwards. Introducing flights that only last 30 minutes on a distance less than 200km is ridiculos. Why not just arrange some codeshare with the Deutsche Bahn, linking MUC and INS and SZG with the ICE? LH already did the right step by dropping the CDG-FRA flight but apparently they only did it bc of too little demand rather than protecting the environment.
In times like these, where global warming has become such an important issue, carriers should rethink their services...in my humble opinion there should be laws that ban such short flights IF there is a decent connections via shuttle bus or train between the respective destinations (e.g. MUC and INS)
just my two cents


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2305 times:

Can agree with you that this flights is a bit worthless, but I cant agree with you about a ban for short flights. Then we wouldn't see any domestic travel in many countries.


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User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2290 times:



Quoting Adicool (Reply 22):
This might be a little off topic, but I have to say something here:
Introducing a flight from MUC to INS and SZG is disgusting and very hypocrite of LH and Mayrhuber...
I appreciate LH very much for their work and their service but this is too much. In a recent interview Mayrhuber stated that "people that love the environment would rather fly than going by car" and that using and a/c is always less pollutive from 350km distance onwards. Introducing flights that only last 30 minutes on a distance less than 200km is ridiculos. Why not just arrange some codeshare with the Deutsche Bahn, linking MUC and INS and SZG with the ICE? LH already did the right step by dropping the CDG-FRA flight but apparently they only did it bc of too little demand rather than protecting the environment.
In times like these, where global warming has become such an important issue, carriers should rethink their services...in my humble opinion there should be laws that ban such short flights IF there is a decent connections via shuttle bus or train between the respective destinations (e.g. MUC and INS)
just my two cents

But LH is now a decent airline earning quite a lot of money... There is always 2 ways to look into a matter, yes, might be it is greener to go by ICE but then LH wont be able to take in the bit of profit. So how should they decide?



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25 A342 : ? They still have about 10 flights a day on that route...
26 B747forever : True, think that he means another route.
27 SailorOrion : Because there's no railway station (except S-Bahn) at MUC so that's out of the question until the Transrapid is built. If no Transrapid, that's out o
28 Airbazar : As been stated, there is no railway station at MUC only a "commuter" train stop, making any train travel between MUC and these cities a pain. The bes
29 Adicool : I'm sorry, I always mix CGN and CDG up. Of course I mean the CGN-FRA service that is now being served by a codeshare agreement between LH and Deutsch
30 PurpleBox : I flew the CRJ200 on this route once MAD-MUC-NUE. 86Miles (138KM), airbourne for 19 minutes...! PurpleBox.
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