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Airports Physically Connected To Each Other  
User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7105 times:

How many airports out there are physically connected (ie: can taxi an aircraft from one to the other) out there? I didn't know they even existed, but here is an example...


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To the right side of the ditch is one airport (8NC9) with a grass runway and to the left side of the ditch is another separate airport (0A7) with a grass/paved runway. There is a taxiway bridge that aircraft can taxi across to get from one to the other. Both are completely separate airports as considered by the FAA.

Anything else out there like this? Two airports (with two identifiers/names/etc) but connected? I know there are many cases of airports that are really two separate operations, maybe a military base/runway and civilian side/runway that are connected... but they're still just considered one airport.

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User currently offlineCO777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7032 times:

ELP and Biggs AFB? (aka Ft. Bliss)

User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7022 times:

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the land area of DEN and Front Range airport border each other. The final build-out of DEN might have had a planned connection to Front Range.

Also, the new Doha airport will be next to the old one, although not connected. If the new Doha airport ever needs a third runway, they could make a link to the existing airport, whose runway will be parallel to the ones at the new airport. It would be a bit of a taxi, but not any worse than the outer runway at DFW or DEN.

ANC and Lake Hood seaplane base.



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User currently offlineHA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 655 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7005 times:

HNL and Hickam AFB are connected. They share the same runways.

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[Edited 2007-12-07 21:11:16]

User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6935 times:

These places would make for some interesting logbook entries. Easy XC time for sure.

User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6870 times:

NAS Whiting Field North - KNSE
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0712/00602AD.PDF

&

NAS Whiting Field South - KNDZ
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0712/01909AD.PDF

by Taxiway Zulu


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6828 times:

Can't forget FRF/FRA. Frankfurt Flughafen and Rhein-Main AB were adjacent. Aalborg and the Danish Air Base are right next to each other. If I could remember the codes, Wichita Falls Municipal and Sheppard AFB are together. Scott AFB and Mid America airport are somewhat together. Damn, guy, I can't think of two GA or GA/civil airports connected. Usually where there is one, another may be there.

Off subject, are there still Navy C-9's at AVP? Why I though about there I don't know, maybe it was becasue I was watching The Office, which takes place in Scranton, PA and I keep telling my wife about my overnights at AVP.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9676 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6769 times:



Quoting Xtoler (Reply 6):
Can't forget FRF/FRA. Frankfurt Flughafen and Rhein-Main AB

I am part of a group called "Pro Airport" and sometimes we have a stand on local fairs, to explain the airport expansion. A frequently asked question is "Why can't you use the runway of the Americans?"

Answer - they never had one. Frankfurt Airport and Rhein-Main Airbase where the same place, no separation at all. Military planes used all three runways and the only separation was, that there was a civil and a military ramp. Same as with any US airport that homes a National Guard unit.



TGhe one in Denmark is Billund, BTW, but I believe that the military airport mirroring Billund is closed.



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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6688 times:



Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 5):
NAS Whiting Field North - KNSE
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0712/00602AD.PDF

&

NAS Whiting Field South - KNDZ
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0712/01909AD.PDF

by Taxiway Zulu

Wow, very cool, and a perfect example of what I was looking for! Thanks!


User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1643 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6624 times:

Sapporo Japan: Chitose Airport and Japan Self Defense base... same location RJCJ and RJCC

User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6590 times:

Same at BRU.

Landing on 25R and turning off left, you are on the civil side at Brussels Airport EBBR; turn off right and you go to he military airport called Melsbroek EBML.


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Reading through the replies above, it seems most cases are a combined civil/military use of the same runways, with the civil airport being on one side, and the military airport on the other side. I wonder why a military airport has an ICAO letter code though...

[Edited 2007-12-08 01:15:25]

User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6537 times:



Quoting CO777ER (Reply 1):
ELP and Biggs AFB? (aka Ft. Bliss)

I believe you are correct.

Dave



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9676 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6443 times:



Quoting Davescj (Reply 11):
believe you are correct.

could be done, but isn't


http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=31.84...q=31.849500%2C-106.380000%20(KBIF)



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User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6410 times:



Quoting Slz396 (Reply 10):
I wonder why a military airport has an ICAO letter code though...

For emergency use by civil aircraft. Even if the military airport shares the same runway facility as a civil airport there may be local or national reasons differentiating betwen the two.


User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6317 times:

I think RJCJ / RJCC is the only true case of a large facility - at least I've that found.

Here's an opposite side of the question - how any airports have two, or more, runways physically separate and unable to taxi to each other. Not counting the construction of the third runway at WSSS.

RJFU - Nagasaki Japan - the original airport runway is on the shoreline and the new commercial runway is on a man made island about a mile away.


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1880 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6249 times:



Quoting PITrules (Reply 2):

Also, the new Doha airport will be next to the old one, although not connected. If the new Doha airport ever needs a third runway, they could make a link to the existing airport, whose runway will be parallel to the ones at the new airport. It would be a bit of a taxi, but not any worse than the outer runway at DFW or DEN.

Hiii there!

I worked in the New Doha Airport, which is being built 4 kilometers east of the exisiting airport. Its really close to the new airport, but the new airport is designed for the next 60 years, so the need for a third runway is not important. In fact 2 runways is MORE than enough for the new DOH.

The new airport will be developed by a major real estate player into a canal, villas, shopping areas, and financial zones. So, the old airport will be a residential area.

But, I agree, the airports will be close to be each other, and it could form one huge airport, but that is not part of the plan.

Regards.



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6226 times:

Mid America and Scott AFB are connected by a Single Taxiway...Pretty Cool Actually.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...5&spn=0.06391,0.1157&t=h&z=13&om=1


User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4915 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 16):
Mid America and Scott AFB are connected by a Single Taxiway...Pretty Cool Actually.

I could be wrong, but I think that parallel runway existed as part of Scott AFB prior to Mid America opening. In my mind, it doesn't qualify as the "two separate airports", but simply one side of the same airport being civilian, the other military, like many other examples. I'm open to correction, though.

-Rampart


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

Quoting CO777ER (Reply 1):
ELP and Biggs AFB? (aka Ft. Bliss)

Not yet...although the city of El Paso and Ft. Bliss have been discussing this for years. It would require the construction of one taxiway.

EDIT: By The Way, it has been Biggs Army Airfield since the early 1970's, and the station identifier is BIF  Smile

[Edited 2007-12-08 11:45:42]


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4864 times:

Also, ABQ and Kirtland AFB use the same runways and control tower...


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User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

Though no longer operational, Bolling Air Force Base and Anacostia Naval Air Station in the District of Columbia had their own runways, hangars, control towers; and were connected by a taxiway.

User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1090 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4625 times:
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Technically (IIRC) YYZ is two separate airports. YYZ (South Side) and YZY (North). Each has their own ground/Tower/APP-DEP controls. This way they can get around having the runways slightly too close to each other, and operate multiple Approaches and Departures on both sets of runways.


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User currently offlineJetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2832 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4456 times:



Quoting YYZatcboy (Reply 21):
Technically (IIRC) YYZ is two separate airports. YYZ (South Side) and YZY (North). Each has their own ground/Tower/APP-DEP controls. This way they can get around having the runways slightly too close to each other, and operate multiple Approaches and Departures on both sets of runways.

Many airports do that. It's more of seperating out the load on the ATC to separate controllers at the same station [Ground, Tower, etc.]

ATL has a different Tower frequency for each runway, and a North and South Ground controller, plus different ramp frequencies.



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User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4312 times:

MIA were two separate airports once upon a time. The 36th street terminal and the air base next to it were merged after the conclusion of WWII.

Addendum:

On this topic, was one of LAX's master plan configurations was to send a taxiway to Hawthorne Field?

[Edited 2007-12-08 12:58:59]

User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4257 times:



Quoting Xtoler (Reply 6):
Can't forget FRF/FRA. Frankfurt Flughafen and Rhein-Main AB were adjacent. Aalborg and the Danish Air Base are right next to each other. If I could remember the codes, Wichita Falls Municipal and Sheppard AFB are together. Scott AFB and Mid America airport are somewhat together. Damn, guy, I can't think of two GA or GA/civil airports connected. Usually where there is one, another may be there.

These are all on the same airport grounds though. Rhein Mein AFB used FRA's codes. If you flew to Rhein/Mein you were landing at Frankfurt EDDF and taxiied over to the base. What the original poster ment I believe is... theres a fence between FRA and Rhein Mein, Rhein Mein has its own airport code ex: ERMA or some other identifier and had its own runways then theres a taxiway that connects the two airports.

Rhein Mein still used FRA's codes and runways it was just on the opposite side of the airport similar to having cargo operations located at a different part of an airport.


25 Stburke : There's about ~5 miles in between the two, that would be quite a taxiway. I also saw nothing about it after digging through some old books. Front Ran
26 Qslinger : What about BOM...Sahar (Chatrapathi Shivaji International) and Santa Cruz(Domestic)? Do they qualify as airports next to each other?
27 Post contains images DeltaAVL : Nice thread! Especially considering that this is my local airport (5 minutes from home) and that I took that picture! Yep, and both airports are basic
28 FlyMeToTheMoon : Land at IAD on 1R. Take 267 W then 66E then the GWP and you end up at DCA on runway 15 ready for takeoff
29 Xtoler : Oh, forgot about that one and my best friend is still stationed at Ft. Bliss. I thought she was out of her mind when she said Buff's were going in an
30 Malaysia : Chiang Kai-Shek International and Taoyuan AFB is another example too. I also wondered about segregated airports, single airport, but literally seperat
31 Mike89406 : MSP and RNO are connected to Air National Guard Bases.
32 Xtoler : [quote=PanHAM,reply=7]I am part of a group called "Pro Airport" and sometimes we have a stand on local fairs, to explain the airport expansion. A freq
33 Rampart : Yes, I remember that. I saw an article in AW&ST years ago, it was one of the options. Was not favored by the GA users at Hawthorne nor the commuter a
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