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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4668 times:

We are having some bad weather out here in DEN today, so I know things might be backed up. I was curious how the new Lynx airline is performing.

One flight tonight seems to be running a little late.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SHA4987

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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4550 times:

Great call sign!!!

Shasta


User currently offlineJetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2799 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4263 times:



Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 1):
Shasta

I love it

How many DH8D's do they have now?



No info
User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4272 times:



Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 2):
How many DH8D's do they have now?

6 with 4 more on order. They also have 10 options for next year. The remaining 4 should arrive in the next few weeks.


User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4253 times:

When do you think they'll announce intra-colorado routes?


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User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

Will they hook these planes to jetways like some do in CLT? It would be great if they did due to the frigged winters.


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User currently offlineRdwelch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3971 times:



Quoting Quickmover (Thread starter):
We are having some bad weather out here in DEN today, so I know things might be backed up. I was curious how the new Lynx airline is performing.

Like every other carrier in DIA.

Gus


User currently offlineAggieflyboi04 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3923 times:



Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 5):
Will they hook these planes to jetways like some do in CLT

All the Dash's in CLT are ramp parked I haven't seen one on a jetway in 2years since i have been based here


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

Has anyone here worked around Lynx the last couple of days or flown them? I'd sure like to hear about loads and customer response.

User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3573 times:

Are all 6 aircraft flying?

I've been watching flightaware and I've only seen a few flights to Rapid City and Wichita. They were supposed to be flying to ABQ and a couple other cities as well. Looks like only a couple are in service. Any info?

http://flightaware.com/live/fleet/SHA


User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3518 times:

I've noticed flights to

ICT: http://flightaware.com/analysis/route.rvt?origin=KDEN&destination=KICT
SUX: http://flightaware.com/analysis/route.rvt?origin=KDEN&destination=KSUX
BIL: http://flightaware.com/analysis/route.rvt?origin=KDEN&destination=KBIL
RAP: http://flightaware.com/analysis/route.rvt?origin=KDEN&destination=KRAP

These were the initial cities identified, plus the addition of BIL. Even though six aircraft are in use, does not mean they are all flying at the same time.

The one thing I have noticed is there are no longer at BTA flights being operated which would fit into the FFT route structure.

I imagine later this week we would see some more cities switch over to Lynx and more aircraft shuffling. Some possibilities for immediate new flights include ABQ, and TUL.


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

Maybe I'm doing this wrong. When put in SHA as an identifier, I'm only coming up with one flight and maybe sometimes two. Surely, with six aircraft, there would be more in the air than that throughout the day.

Maybe some of the aircraft are still doing proving runs somewhere?


User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3427 times:



Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 5):
It would be great if they did due to the frigged winters.

Denver isn't that cold, normally. Sure, they have their cold spells and snowstorms, but a lot of the winter is dry and mild. Chicago, Minneapolis, New York, Seattle, Detroit, Toronto -- those are places where rain/snow and/or cold make a boarding bridge a necessity. When I think of shelter rom the elements, I think of precipitation first.

Is it MSP or ORD that has those snake-like ground-level tubes from gate to plane that look like haz-mat tunnels between sterile tents?

-Rampart


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

Now there are two planes in the air. One coming back from Rapid City and the other on it's way up to Billings. Those two are the only ones I've seen flying today.

http://flightaware.com/live/fleet/SHA


User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3373 times:

It appears there are only two flights to each city now. I'm sure by mid week we will see some more activity, however it is tough to increase the schedule and city pairs immediately.

User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3341 times:



Quoting Ytib (Reply 14):
It appears there are only two flights to each city now. I'm sure by mid week we will see some more activity, however it is tough to increase the schedule and city pairs immediately.

Where's the rest of the fleet? Are they short on personel as of now?


User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3308 times:



Quoting Rampart (Reply 12):
Seattle

Denver surely gets a hell of a lot colder than Seattle in the Winter. I live in the same basic weather region as Seattle and it'll rarely stay below -5 overnight. Very rarely. Denver, being high up in the mountains, is usually much cooler.  Smile



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User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3276 times:



Quoting Quickmover (Reply 15):
Where's the rest of the fleet? Are they short on personel as of now?

They are ramping up operations as stated before.

Just to amuse you I looked at their schedule and found the following with the DB8D.

ABQ on 12/19 - 1 A319, 3 DH8D, 2 E170, but the following week it goes up to 4 DH8D.
BIL stays with 2 DB8D through Christmas and shortly after goes to 3
ELP starts 12/19 with two a days
ICT 3 today and into Jan
OKC gets three of them next week, and I see 4 after the first of the year.
RAP 3 today and into Jan
SUX three will be heading that way starting today
TUL gets a DH8D, and then mid Jan goes 3 a day with them.

So soon we will see service to eight cities. Does throwing all of these aircraft as of today make any sense, as you will lose money even with the much better CASM of the Q400.

Also, keep in mind greater seasonal Mexico service starts soon so the aircraft being replaced will all cascade around that service in addition to increased frequencies to some cities.


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3247 times:



Quoting Ytib (Reply 17):
So soon we will see service to eight cities. Does throwing all of these aircraft as of today make any sense, as you will lose money even with the much better CASM of the Q400.

How do you figure flying company aircraft with company people (that you are paying for regardless of whether the aircraft is used) is more expensive than subcontracting out those flights?


User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3166 times:



Quoting Quickmover (Reply 18):
How do you figure flying company aircraft with company people (that you are paying for regardless of whether the aircraft is used) is more expensive than subcontracting out those flights?

Flight crews are paid based on block time, fuel is required to operate an aircraft, landing fees exist, and the countless other variable costs associated with operating an aircraft. So if you start flying four flights today to a city which had been scheduled with two until the recent change what is the likeliness there would be passengers on the aircraft? Most likely none. While people want to see all of the aircraft all of a sudden just fill the skies, with the recent cost considerations across the company they are being careful with expending the costs this week. Once the holiday travel season starts next week, there will be plenty of flights


User currently offlineF9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3148 times:



Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 16):
Denver surely gets a hell of a lot colder than Seattle in the Winter. I live in the same basic weather region as Seattle and it'll rarely stay below -5 overnight. Very rarely. Denver, being high up in the mountains, is usually much cooler.

I'm not saying Seattle is colder than Denver, but two things need to be cleared up here. First of all, it is relatively rare for temperatures to drop below 0 F in Denver, let alone stay that way all night. (Perhaps you were referring to Celsius here, in which case, you're right, Denver does go below -5 Celcius with regularity.) Second, Denver is not in the Mountains.

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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3123 times:



Quoting Ytib (Reply 19):
Flight crews are paid based on block time, fuel is required to operate an aircraft, landing fees exist, and the countless other variable costs associated with operating an aircraft. So if you start flying four flights today to a city which had been scheduled with two until the recent change what is the likeliness there would be passengers on the aircraft? Most likely none. While people want to see all of the aircraft all of a sudden just fill the skies, with the recent cost considerations across the company they are being careful with expending the costs this week. Once the holiday travel season starts next week, there will be plenty of flights

I think we are talking about two different things. I'm not suggesting that they dump all 6 aircraft into one or two specific markets and flood it. F9 mentioned Wichita, Kan.; Rapid City, S.D.; Sioux City, Iowa; Billings, Mont., and Tulsa, Okla., and ABQ that would initially see Lynx service. I don't think 6 aircraft are enough to service all of the flights to all of these cities. Mainline or the 170s would take care of what Lynx can't handle for now. My point is that I've only seen at most 3 aircraft in operation at any one time on flightaware.com all day and I'm curious why they aren't using the other 3 planes. Especially since they are paying someone else to run the route.

I guess I'm bored enough to even try to keep track of what's going on, but it's easy enough to tell how many planes are in service since everything either comes or goes from DEN.

that all.


User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3079 times:
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Quoting F9Widebody (Reply 20):
Second, Denver is not in the Mountains.

But its field elevation is 5,280 feet, right? And the mountains aren't too far off because you can see them. I would think the climate there has more in common with Calgary than with Seattle, which is at sea level and doesn't get very cold.



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User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3022 times:



Quoting Quickmover (Reply 21):
I think we are talking about two different things. I'm not suggesting that they dump all 6 aircraft into one or two specific markets and flood it. F9 mentioned Wichita, Kan.; Rapid City, S.D.; Sioux City, Iowa; Billings, Mont., and Tulsa, Okla., and ABQ that would initially see Lynx service. I don't think 6 aircraft are enough to service all of the flights to all of these cities. Mainline or the 170s would take care of what Lynx can't handle for now. My point is that I've only seen at most 3 aircraft in operation at any one time on flightaware.com all day and I'm curious why they aren't using the other 3 planes. Especially since they are paying someone else to run the route.

I guess I'm bored enough to even try to keep track of what's going on, but it's easy enough to tell how many planes are in service since everything either comes or goes from DEN.

that all.

Why do you think ExpressJet is gone, as they were paying them to operate above their commitment to Republic. Once Lynx was able to accommodate those routes there was the change. In regards to the E170's, if you are in a long term contract with a provider you are not going to just say don't fly the routes, as aircraft delivery and other thresholds are usually specified in a contract. Either way you have to pay for it, either an organization who is guaranteed revenue or by flying empty aircraft.


User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2972 times:



Quoting Arrow (Reply 22):
But its field elevation is 5,280 feet, right? And the mountains aren't too far off because you can see them. I would think the climate there has more in common with Calgary than with Seattle, which is at sea level and doesn't get very cold.

Ummmmm... I believe the preposition you're looking for is "by," not "in." Even then, DEN is still a good 30-40 miles to the Front Range. Field elevation for DEN is 5,431 ft, and the airport, and the city, lie on the high plains. Think of DEN as being a larger YYC, you Canadians..... sarcastic 


25 Post contains images BCAInfoSys : Woo hoo! Now I need to find an excuse to go to the head office in Denver so I can fly these beauties! Took this in Denver last weekend.. (which shows
26 Rampart : Yes, it does get colder on occasion, Denver is more extreme, but I was surprised at how identical the average temperatures were: 50.5°F for Denver a
27 Post contains images TheGreatChecko : Other than the fact that its not even in CO! (Mt. Shasta that is) I think Denver is the exception since all the other cities have jetbridges and are
28 RJNUT : I have said it before, but basically DEN has Spring during Winter and Winter during Spring, of course with some exceptions!
29 Rampart : I'd agree with that statement. Corrollary to that, I've always held that the ski season starts too soon and ends too soon. Crappy skiing in November
30 CBPhoto : Dumb question, but does Lynx have its own web site? I have not seen anything, and have been looking for jobs or minimums for First Officers, but have
31 Post contains links TheGreatChecko : No website unfortunately. All recruitment is done through Careerbuilder.com http://www.careerbuilder.com/Jobs/Co...C7X7TZ6CVRP92C9QHGJ/Lynx-Aviation/
32 CBPhoto : Checko, Thanks a lot appreciate the help. Kind of odd that they dont have a web site, but I guess i'll keep looking! Thanks again!
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