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How Many Chances Do We Have To Fly An MD11!  
User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9198 times:

Hi!

Well, we have less and less airlines flying people like you and me in the good old MD11. I'm glad that we still have good chances to see that plane around, mostly in cargo flights with cargo airlines, but has a passenger I think the oportunities are getting narrower more and more. So I'm here requesting to some of the enthusiasts in the countries were you still can find MD11 in passenger service to give us the airlines that still fly this great airplane and what routes we can find them...juts checking out that I found 3 airlines that you might have a good chance to fly the plane, but I don't have a clue regarding their routes:

- KLM
- Finnair
- TAM

I wait your awesome feedback like always!!!
regards

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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7456 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9172 times:

Add Martinair to the list.....

filler..



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9160 times:

I was under the impression that these were the only 3 scheduled carriers operating this type and in fact that seems to be the case. This list - http://www.airfleets.net/listing/md11-1.htm - shows the current operator of all MD11s built and your will see the bulk are operating as freight haulers the exceptions being the ones you already pointed out, AY, KL and TAM.

YOWza



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User currently offlineSIBILLE From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9161 times:

KLM flies from AMS to NYC with MD-11 in January. It's not too expensive and as I love tri-jets which are becoming rare, I booked a return flight. I'll stay only two nights.
Maybe your best and cheapest chance to fly a MD-11......


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9153 times:



Quoting United_Fan (Reply 1):
Add Martinair to the list.....

filler..

MP are down to only C C/F MD11s: http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Martinair%20Holland-active-md11.htm

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9135 times:



Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 3):
KLM flies from AMS to NYC with MD-11 in January. It's not too expensive and as I love tri-jets which are becoming rare, I booked a return flight. I'll stay only two nights.
Maybe your best and cheapest chance to fly a MD-11......

Hmmmm - well worth a go I think. The girlfriend will hate it no doubt as they dont have PTVs and are cramped but I HAVE to fly an MD11 before they are gone and I do have a NYC trip planned for the new year.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineJog From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 273 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9104 times:

TAM is currently flying them on JJ 8096/8097 GRU-CDG-GRU and JJ8060/8061 GRU-MXP-GRU. Mid 2008 all three MD11 will be replaced by 773ER. So, hurry before it is too late...  Wink

User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9077 times:



Quoting YOWza (Reply 4):
MP are down to only C C/F MD11s: http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/M...1.htm

It's not C C/F, but CF and F. MP has always had such a fleet. CF stands for Convertible Freighter, which means that the aircraft can be used for passengers or cargo. Since about two years, their four MD-11CFs are only used for cargo, but as far as I know, they haven't been completely converted to cargo only, unlike the two former MD-11CFs of WO.


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9018 times:



Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 7):
It's not C C/F, but CF and F.

correct, AZ was the only one that ordered the MD-11C (Combi). That is also the only MD-11 which has the cargo-door in the back, the CF and F have it in front of the wing.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11616 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8973 times:



Quoting YOWza (Reply 2):
I was under the impression that these were the only 3 scheduled carriers operating this type and in fact that seems to be the case. This list - http://www.airfleets.net/listing/md11-1.htm - shows the current operator of all MD11s built and your will see the bulk are operating as freight haulers the exceptions being the ones you already pointed out, AY, KL and TAM.

Isn't there also a weekly scheduled flight with an airline (the name of which escapes me) from the US to Africa, possibly Luanda, on MD11 metal? I believe it's leased from World Airways, but operates as a scheduled flight, not a charter.


Dan Smile



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User currently offlineSh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8959 times:

You're making me think about taking a trip on KLM to Amsterdam from JFK . I just checked and they have an great promo fare for $324 USD. The leg to AMS is on MD-11. But I dont know. Any money I save will be given back quickly with the current exchange rates. USD is not my friend overseas. Amsterdam is an expensive town isnt it?
I should fly an MD-11 to somewhere else. Finland is an expensive place too, for an American. Maybe I'll just go for a few days. Soon those planes will be gone.


User currently offlineLO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2392 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8944 times:



Quoting Sh0rtybr0wn (Reply 10):
Amsterdam is an expensive town isnt it?
I should fly an MD-11 to somewhere else. Finland is an expensive place too, for an American

Amsterdam will be cheaper than any Scandinavian city. Do it! If you're used to the prices in NY or Chicago, you'll find AMS to be very cheap!

Regards,
LO231



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User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8931 times:

The World Airways MD-11 operates 3X a week for SonAir


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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7456 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8843 times:

Or you could always box yourself up and FX yourself to HNL. FX uses MD11 MEM-HNL.


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User currently offlineSh0rtybr0wn From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8838 times:



Quoting LO231 (Reply 11):
Amsterdam will be cheaper than any Scandinavian city. Do it! If you're used to the prices in NY or Chicago, you'll find AMS to be very cheap!

You're joking right? How can Amsterdam be inexpensive? Anyway, Im sure its fun and filled with really cool people. If I dont make it on an MD-11, I can maybe try NW out of BDL to AMS, because its close to where I live in Connecticut.


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8818 times:



Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 7):
It's not C C/F, but CF and F.

Sorry that was a typo on my part. I was also under the impression that all the C/F were in exclusive Cargo service. Sorry for the confusion.

YOWza



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11616 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8804 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 9):
Isn't there also a weekly scheduled flight with an airline (the name of which escapes me) from the US to Africa, possibly Luanda, on MD11 metal? I believe it's leased from World Airways, but operates as a scheduled flight, not a charter.



Quoting FI642 (Reply 12):
The World Airways MD-11 operates 3X a week for SonAir

Thanks, that sounds about right  Smile



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User currently offline02hilliert From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8721 times:

anyone know the cheapest option for getting an MD-11 flight for someone that lives in London?


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User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8710 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 9):
Isn't there also a weekly scheduled flight with an airline (the name of which escapes me) from the US to Africa, possibly Luanda, on MD11 metal? I believe it's leased from World Airways, but operates as a scheduled flight, not a charter.

It's not a charter but more a VIP aircraft with just 113 seats. Quite different from our usual Y-class configuration...
http://www.worldairways.com/news/20050126.html


User currently offline76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 511 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8676 times:



Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 7):
MD-11CFs are only used for cargo, but as far as I know, they haven't been completely converted to cargo only

AFAIK, all of Martinair's 4 CF's have been completely stripped.


User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5130 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8666 times:



Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 18):
It's not a charter but more a VIP aircraft with just 113 seats.

It's a charter. You have to be a member of a particular private group (the US-Africa Energy Association) in order to be able to book a seat on it. That makes it a private charter rather than a public charter, but it's a charter nonetheless. It runs multiple times per week in each direction in accordance with a schedule, so it's a "track" charter. But it's a charter.


User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8662 times:



Quoting 76er (Reply 19):
AFAIK, all of Martinair's 4 CF's have been completely stripped.

Then I'd be happy to get a reliable source to finally know what type they are now. The windows of WO aircraft were covered, which is not (yet) the case with MP's aircraft.


User currently offlineMSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8600 times:

How Many Chances To We Have To Fly An MD11!

None! Unless your a pilot trained to fly this type of equipment.

Sorry I could not help it... Silly

It is a shame that not too many are in service in the USA for passenger service, except an occasional charter.
This is one plane I have not flown on and doesn't look like I ever will.


Good Day


User currently offlineKL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8506 times:



Quoting 76er (Reply 19):
AFAIK, all of Martinair's 4 CF's have been completely stripped.

Summer 2007 PH-MCP was flying pax. It still is the only MP MD-11 which carries no additional 'cargo' titles



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User currently offlineDFWMzuri From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8440 times:

I was looking at different options for DFW-DEL next year. KLM is soon to start DFW service, and I can go DFW-AMS-DEL. The AMS-DEL is listed as MD11. I'm seriously thinking of booking this flight just so I can fly KLM and a MD11. I have never flown KLM, visited AMS, or flown on a MD11.

25 Alessandro : No, Amsterdam isn´t cheaper than Finland. As for fly large triholers as a passenger, it´s either the mentioned MD-11s or Biman´s DC-10s or fly to A
26 Post contains images LTU932 : No, they don't fly their MD-11s in a PAX configuration anymore. Wasn't it last year when MP stopped to fly PAX destinations on MD-11s? They don't nee
27 Post contains images GoBoeing : I'm looking forward to jumpseating on a FedEx MD-10/11 in January. My life will be complete when I hear that thing yell STABILIZER MOTION!
28 Indio66 : There was a KLM MD-11 in EWR last Tuesday. Not sure if this was a sub or regular service. It was nice to see, regardless.
29 Awthompson : It is amazing the things we do to fly on a particular aircraft type!!! I flew on the MD-11 N272WA when Aer Lingus leased it a few years ago - just on
30 OceansWorld : I know, it was just an example. That's right. I'm going too fast once more, but thing may be different after all....
31 Voodoo : One would hope KLM would, like Swissair, have some enthusiasts flights that would be mentioned here well in advance before their actual retirement. S
32 LO231 : Ever been out in Helsinki?? Just shop around for hotels and restaurants, they're there.....
33 Caljn : Flew the MD-11 several times on Swiss Air to GVA back in the 90's before the all Airbus thing. Fabulous take off...and that great, at the time anyhow,
34 AFGMEL : Well, now you guys realise what it's like for the rest of us. Our dollar isn' t as strong as yours even now. Lots of currencies worse off than us At
35 Post contains images ComairGuyCVG : Get employed with the airline that operates MD-11's to London and fly for free....LOL!
36 TrijetsRMissed : Great idea for a thread CV990. If all goes well, I will make two MD-11 trips in the next four years. One with AY JFK-HEL before retirement and later o
37 Je89_w : Too bad the passenger MD-11s are slowly making its way to the history books. Glad I've flown on them many times, on three different airlines (JAL, Swi
38 Post contains links and images Andaman : Drinking & eating is a bit more expensive in Helsinki, but the difference isn't that great anymore. The biggest difference seems to be that inexpensi
39 Post contains images WILCO737 : Dont forget LH and MD11s.... No wait, its Cargo only But MD11s are GREAT! So much power but so bitchy WILCO737 (MD11F)
40 CO7e7 : On Saturday 12/8, i saw a KL MD-11 at EWR. I was there between 1pm and 4pm.
41 Alessandro : Yes, I have been both to Helsinki and A´dam during the last 5 years.
42 Alessandro : Voodoo, perhaps they use the tristars there? Maybe I´m not updated on this route Brize/Northon-Ascension-Falklands.
43 Post contains images FXramper : Jumpseated into CDG last week on a MD11 and was a guest of Mr. Cochet.
44 Post contains images WILCO737 : On a LH Cargo MD11F? Hmmm, I guess a FedEx one... WILCO737 (MD11F) [Edited 2007-12-11 00:48:48]
45 Post contains links Andaman : A bit off the topic but... The Mercer Human Resource Consulting surveys list the most expensive cities for expat employees and 2007 they put Helsinki
46 Qslinger : Flew Alitalia back in 2005 MD 11 Combi. Was pretty cool...I can check that off my list... Would love to fly the 707...
47 Shane : Is KLM still sending an MD-11 to SFO off season?
48 Post contains images MauriceB : Why all the fuzz MD-11 Pax service will be here for a while. KLM will keep them flying untill atleast 2014....... All 10 of them. Martinair stopped wi
49 JAGflyer : What do you have to do in order to book a flight with RAF?I have never heard of civilians being able to book travel on military aircraft?
50 HOOB747 : Curious what you mean by "so bitchy"? In the way the aircraft performs? Or the aircraft's handling characteristics? Or something else? Respectfully.
51 FI642 : Until you ride in the cockpit of the MD-11, you haven't really had the "correct" ride. The best time is a max-power take-off on a ferry flight! She's
52 Post contains images WILCO737 : The power is amazing and the performance as well Just love that! but she is a bitch to land and she is amazingly fast during approach. At max landing
53 Post contains images CV990 : Hi! Wise words my friend, wise words...I experienced that on my flight with SWISS back to December 2002 from ZRH to LAX, the most powerfull take-off I
54 Post contains images WILCO737 : Wow, nice description of a landing I have never been a passenger on the MD11... only in the front right seat and I like it from that perspective a lo
55 Frontierflyer : Curse the 777 A340. The MD-11 is the most beautiful aircraft ever. Going to miss those awesome takeoffs.
56 Post contains images WILCO737 : WILCO737 (MD11F)
57 YULspotter : I agree that the MD-11 is the best looking commercial aircraft flying. For the original question, KLM operates YUL-AMS daily with an MD-11. YULspotter
58 Post contains images HOOB747 : Thank you, great informative reply. I understand now.
59 CJAContinental : What about Thai, they still operate them?
60 Post contains images OceansWorld : You're very late. They were WFU in February 2006.
61 Airbuster : so do i have to feel lucky that i have MD11 typed on my licence??......
62 Post contains links and images 747fan : Gotta agree with that. Fortunately I live 20 minutes away from SDF (UPS Worldport), so I see those beautiful birds taking off like rockets (with awes
63 Post contains images CV990 : Hi! Well if I was you I would!!! Regards
64 Post contains images FXramper : I've used MD11 on pax service with KL and when AA operated it.
65 Caljn : Didn't Fedex flip one at EWR? Then another carrier shortly thereafter somewhere else?
66 FXramper : 0021 ANC 12/12/2007 04:01L (09:01Z) 12/12/2007 07:25L (16:25Z) MD-11 0006 CDG 12/12/2007 04:00L (09:00Z) 12/12/2007 16:52L (15:52Z) MD-11 1314 MEM 12
67 Post contains links and images Transpac787 : By "flip" I think he meant "crash", not "daily depatures"   View Large View MediumPhoto © Joe Pries - ATR Team[Edited 2007-12-11 22:58:19]
68 Post contains images WILCO737 : I have the same typed on my license and I feel lucky Oh wait on my license as well 737 is typed but I guess its expired now Good old 737s.... WILCO73
69 KSYR : Depends. Back in the late 1990's/early 2000s when my father was in the US Military my family and I were able to fly on military aircraft from Europe
70 Awthompson : For many years, the scheduled flights from the UK to the Falkland Islands have been operated by the UK Royal Air Force for British Airways and can be
71 02hilliert : I would LOVE that, either would be great. May have to wait for these wars to come to their conclusion though. What carriers have RAF typically used o
72 Frontierflyer : Can I move in with you? I only get to see FEDEX dc10s here in ELP, great jet but gotta love those winglets UMMM. When I lived in Dallas I drove to DF
73 PennPal : Back when my son was in his high school's marching band they were invited to appear in the 2003 New Year's Day Parade in London. Our travel agent brok
74 AverageUser : You don't have to be a trained enthusiast, just walk into Helsinki-Vantaa any day except Xmas and take your pick of the leaving intercontinental MD11
75 Awthompson : I am trying to find some more information on that. If I get some details I will let you know, but I could guess it would be First Choice 767's, MYT 7
76 Bmacleod : In Canada, YUL seems to be the only city with passenger MD-11 service on KL. YYZ used to have AY MD11 flights before the downgrade to 757s.
77 OceansWorld : YVR also the KL MD-11s, although on a seasonal basis I believe.
78 Jmbarros12 : I´m impressed that there are just 3 carriers operating the MD-11 in passenger services... One of the most beautiful aircrafts ever built... Sad to kn
79 Thenoflyzone : Flew with the MD-11 in September on board KL671 AMS-YUL. Awesome aircraft. Got upgraded to business class, and was in the cockpit for the last 30 min
80 Thenoflyzone : KLM's service to YVR is year-round, although in the winter months it flies 5x weekly instead of daily. The equipment also varies from an MD-11 to an
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