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ATA To Operate DC-10 In Scheduled Service  
User currently offlineIFlyATA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 242 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12411 times:

No, not forever!  Wink

This winter season, ATA is seeing extremely high demand in the Hawaiian markets...ATA will be using heavy metal, a widebody DC-10, for LAX-HNL-LAX between December 26th and January 7th.

For all those who were upset when NWA retired the last DC-10 from scheduled service in the US, well, here's your chance again! For you LAX/HNL spotters, get some cool pictures!


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12199 times:

Great news from TZ for the DC-10s.

User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12160 times:
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I hate to ask, but what is your source. If it is private, PM me. I haven't heard anything to that regard and would be extremely interested in know where you got that little tidbit.

That being said, this used to happed regularly when the scheduled service operation was bigger. We would sub when aircraft went mechanical and we had one of the charter widebodies available. That or the flight was so oversold that we needed the capacity. I remember seeing an L1011 do the IND-MCO route in Fall 2005 when a flight was so booked we needed a 300 seat aircraft.

Good to hear you could get a chance to fly on one though. A great opportunity for classic aircraft lovers.



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12153 times:



Quoting IFlyATA (Thread starter):
This winter season, ATA is seeing extremely high demand in the Hawaiian markets...ATA will be using heavy metal, a widebody DC-10, for LAX-HNL-LAX between December 26th and January 7th.

Perhaps ATA is doing their part in getting Hawaii fans to the mainland for the game in NO?


User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12100 times:
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Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):
Perhaps ATA is doing their part in getting Hawaii fans to the mainland for the game in NO?

I bet thats it. Cause once you are in LAX you can connect to anywhere with the WN codeshare. Just go to www.ata.com and book your ticket and you can be in sunny HNL in no time. Great service at a great bargain, thats ATA.  biggrin 

Ok, so it was a shameless plug, and I knew it. So shoot me.



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User currently offlineDLD9S From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 12104 times:

The DC-10s are already loaded for sale. Look for flights on these days on Expedia and select "Preview seat availability" - definately not a 757... LAX-HNL on 02JAN for just $137 before taxes one way. This flight is also loaded for sale on Southwest.com - who would have though we ever would have seen a WN marketed DC-10 flight.


717 727 737 747 757 767 777 DC9 DC10 M80 M90 M11 L10 AB6 333 340 319 320 321 ARJ CRJ EM2 EMJ SF3 146 100 BE1...
User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11978 times:



Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 4):
shameless plug

I'm sorry, but what is that? I've seen that phrase up here quite often and would like to know what that is...

It's interesting how codesharing..

Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 4):
once you are in LAX you can connect to anywhere with the WN codeshare

...works..



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11975 times:
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Scheduled flights of TZ from LAX to HNL this Xmas are operated with 752, 753 and 73H equipment.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11826 times:
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Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 6):
I'm sorry, but what is that

Don't be sorry! It is better to ask then to not know. It essentially stands for "creating an opportunity to advertise your own product or service." Shameless meaning that I had no reason to do it but I did so without shame and plug meaning an advertisement.

I hope that helps!

And I agree with you, codesharing is a neat practice, and a profitable one. Let me tell you.



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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11810 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 6):
shameless plug

"plug", in this context, means to promote/advertise/praise. For instance, "Brad Pitt appeared on the Tonight Show to plug his new movie". "Shameless plug" I suppose implies that Typhaerion thought it wasn't 100% appropriate to be plugging ATA on this thread, but did it anyway. No problem with that from me - I love ATA!

Edit: D'oh! Beat me by 4 minutes!

[Edited 2007-12-11 08:11:17]

User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11742 times:
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Quoting Chase (Reply 9):
Edit: D'oh! Beat me by 4 minutes!

Let me tell you, that is a first. I am nearly infamous for being beat out to good posts by others...

I feel honored...



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User currently offlineIflyata From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 242 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11624 times:



Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 2):
I hate to ask, but what is your source. If it is private, PM me. I haven't heard anything to that regard and would be extremely interested in know where you got that little tidbit.

The information is available publicly on ATA.com’s schedules (and as others have pointed out, on various other GDS websites). I wonder though who came up with the code for ATA.com’s system, “D1C” – did they mean “DC1”?  Smile



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User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1459 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11496 times:



Quoting Iflyata (Reply 11):
I wonder though who came up with the code for ATA.com’s system, “D1C” – did they mean “DC1”?

D1C is the IATA code for a pax configured DC-10-30/40



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User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 11400 times:
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Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 12):
D1C is the IATA code for a pax configured DC-10-30/40

Learn something new every day.



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User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1909 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 11241 times:



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 7):
Scheduled flights of TZ from LAX to HNL this Xmas are operated with 752, 753 and 73H equipment.

... and D1C ... yup - the flights are indeed scheduled with DC-10 for those dates.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25999 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10933 times:



Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 8):
And I agree with you, codesharing is a neat practice, and a profitable one. Let me tell you.

But confusing and misleading for passengers.


User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10751 times:



Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 2):
would be extremely interested in know where you got that little tidbit.

Coming from someone in his age bracket, i'm hjghly skeptical that there is anything more than fantasy behind this.

He clearly has no road to insider information.



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User currently offlineIFlyATA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 242 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10650 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 16):

Coming from someone in his age bracket, i'm hjghly skeptical that there is anything more than fantasy behind this.

He clearly has no road to insider information.

Well apparently age isn't much of an indication of wisdom nor tact in your case. All it takes is to scroll a LITTLE further down to see the confirmation of this fact. Or, see for yourself via ATA.com's schedules.

But what do I know, right, I'm just a kid.

[Edited 2007-12-11 12:10:12]


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User currently offlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1102 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10533 times:

I wish it were an L-1011, but this is still really cool. BTW, have the L-1011s all been retired now?

User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2779 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10429 times:



Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 16):
Coming from someone in his age bracket, i'm hjghly skeptical that there is anything more than fantasy behind this.

He clearly has no road to insider information.



Quoting IFlyATA (Reply 17):
Well apparently age isn't much of an indication of wisdom nor tact in your case. All it takes is to scroll a LITTLE further down to see the confirmation of this fact. Or, see for yourself via ATA.com's schedules.

But what do I know, right, I'm just a kid.

 rotfl 

Way to stick it to him! Welcome to my respected user list! Would be nice if people read the thread before they opened up their big know it all mouth.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1459 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10367 times:



Quoting Yflyer (Reply 18):
I wish it were an L-1011, but this is still really cool. BTW, have the L-1011s all been retired now?

We still have 3 L15s which will likely be gone in 2008. They only seat 283 and the DC10s seat 318 so 35 more pax available to sell. Never say never on seeing an L10 on these if a DC10 goes tech, but its only for about 2 weeks so not much chance  Big grin



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User currently offlineHOOB747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9170 times:

Is the ATA DC-10 painted with an updated livery? And are these old Northwest equipment?


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User currently offlineG4resagent From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8988 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 15):
But confusing and misleading for passengers.

Can "normal" passengers really tell the different between a DC10, an L1011, a 747, or a 757? I doubt it. To some people, a plane is a plane.


User currently offlineShootTheMoon From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8988 times:

Check this out!

http://hnlrarebirds.blogspot.com/

Look at the December 1st post. I think thats our DC-10.


User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1459 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8826 times:



Quoting HOOB747 (Reply 21):
Is the ATA DC-10 painted with an updated livery? And are these old Northwest equipment?

Yes, all ex-NWA and yes, N701TZ is in a hybrid ATA livery. The others (N702, 705, 706TZ) will also be "painted" in a different hybrid scheme beginning in a few days so all will be painted by the time these flights start....not sure which specific aircraft are allocated to this service yet.



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25 Jaybird : Available for sale in Sabre too ..
26 Post contains images Steeler83 : I guess I am not a "normal" passenger then, because I could tell the difference between all four!! It would be interesting if these are used to expan
27 HUbsnotDubs : Any chance for the PHX-HNL run??
28 TZTriStar500 : Not likely. The initial WN international codeshare markets will be Mexico, Canada, and the Caribbean which the 738 and 752 can easily handle. The DC1
29 Post contains images ATA L1011 : Wish ole N194AT (L-1011-100) was still around which held 362, some lucky souls will get to ride on it for Hajj . Flown on it and several other 1/100's
30 Peteg913 : You'd be surprised of his connections, my friend.
31 Steeler83 : Bummer... But if/when they have the desire to go to Europe, I wonder which aircraft will be used. The 757s do have their limit to the far western des
32 Wjcandee : You post on here. You read here. Dude, you, like we, are hardly "a normal passenger". I wouldn't be so sure. The 753s are looking pretty tight in the
33 Post contains images TrijetsRMissed : I was hoping a post like this would show up sooner or later. Thank you for sharing the great news IFlyATA! I am not too familiar with the TZ/WN codesh
34 Atrude777 : Yes, you may purchase on southwest.com a MDW-HNL flight, just be sure the DC10 and flight number on ATA.com matches up the flight number Southwest.co
35 Wjcandee : Uh...and make sure that you have the routing you want. ATA runs a flight MDW-ONT-HNL, I believe, but if you want the DC10, you're gonna have to conne
36 Atrude777 : Well yes..hence why i said make sure the Flight Number Matches the DC10 listed lol Flight XXX MDW-ONT-HNL is not going to operate Flight LAX-HNL Alex
37 Post contains links WN57787 : You also can Book at WWW.SOUTHWEST.COM
38 Pohakuloa : no they havent!!! why you ask? im a spotter in HNL and these past few weeks with the "winter storms" we have had they had been using runways 22L/R an
39 BNE : Flight numbers that appear to have the DC10 operating are as follows: TZ4755 LAX 9:05AM-1:00PM DC10 was 753 TZ4754 HNL 2:15PM-9:35PM DC10 was 753 Expe
40 IFlyATA : That won't start using the DC-10 on those until December 26th, and then until January 7th.
41 PHLBOS : IIRC, TZ only has 4 753s in its fleet currently; significantly down from its original 25. So its not like they (TZ) has a bunch of idling 753s at the
42 Post contains images Typhaerion : I never meant to make this an issue of age at all. I was simply wondering since I had not heard that yet and I would have thought I would be one of t
43 PHLBOS : Thanks for the correction/clarification.
44 Wjcandee : By "pretty tight", I meant that they were looking very full. The logic of my response was: (1) biggest a/c used for sked is usually 753; (2) 753 look
45 Post contains images Typhaerion : No problem. Trust me, personally I wish we had a hundred of those birds. They are really neat, both visually and technically. We just do not have the
46 Wjcandee : Seems like ATA is finally getting to the point where it can fly the preponderance of its entitlements. Musta sucked coupla years ago when Omni, in pa
47 MDW22L31C : So why is ATA stoping the MDW-ONT-HNL flights after the first of the year?
48 AmtrakGuy : Since ATA stopped flying to DCA and LGA, what's happening with the spare 737s? If you look at their map, they're pretty much have 3 cities in USA (not
49 Post contains images LASOctoberB6 : So I presume TZ doesn't have the market for the D1C on LAS-HNL.... I'm so very sad TZ's fleet almost diminished.. I miss all the 738s they had...
50 IFlyATA : Charters mainly. I'm sure ATA has plans to use them someplace.
51 Typhaerion : It is about the money. The people who fly us do not care if they have to connect once going across the country, so they will book with WN and take th
52 Wjcandee : Georges's model of the business, which Tague jettisoned.
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