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User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1010 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8155 times:

Just found this story on the Calgary Sun this morning, this is great news especially after getting the official nod for LH to start up to FRA in April of '08.

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2007/12/11/4718411-sun.html

Can anyone in the know confirm this? Would the flight most likely be to MAD? What kind of equipment could we expect on the route?

YYC is rocking people! Big grin

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User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8132 times:



Quoting C172Akula (Thread starter):
What kind of equipment could we expect on the route?

How about an A343 ?


User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2693 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8126 times:

That's an oddball route if I ever saw one. Any ties between Madrid and Calgary?

User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1010 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8118 times:



Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 1):
How about an A343 ?

That would be nice to see, especially since AC pulled the 343's a couple of years ago on the FRA & LHR runs. Then again could we support a 346?


User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8104 times:

I'd be absolutely shocked if this comes true, it doesn't make any sense for IB to serve YYC before YUL or YYZ and several other cities in the US (LAX, DFW, etc)


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User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1010 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8079 times:



Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 4):
I'd be absolutely shocked if this comes true, it doesn't make any sense for IB to serve YYC before YUL or YYZ and several other cities in the US (LAX, DFW, etc)

Well we did shock a lot of people when some of us on here said LH was coming to YYC, lot of naysayers with all of our supposed rumours and scuttlebutt, then look what happened! Booya baby!

Next up(bilaterals and all the crap notwithstanding) Emirates Big grin


User currently offlineAccargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8058 times:

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Silly

IB couldn't make a go of MAD-YYZ and somebody at the Calgary Sun thinks they can make MAD-YYC work???????

Did they get a new shipment of Kelowna Gold to smoke?


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8033 times:

This is absolutely insane.....

YYC-MAD? Ive seen it all officially.


User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8033 times:



Quoting C172Akula (Reply 5):
Well we did shock a lot of people when some of us on here said LH was coming to YYC, lot of naysayers with all of our supposed rumours and scuttlebutt, then look what happened! Booya baby!

LH serving YYC was a logical addition, just as the return of KLM would be. But IB???
If IB can't make YYZ, YUL, LAX financially viable, how are they going to make YYC work?

Rather than join the list of nay-sayers, will wait and see if there is indeed a press release. If IB is indeed YYC-bound, I would suspect that it is a route being subsidized by the City of YYC or the airport authority.



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User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1010 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8009 times:



Quoting FLYYUL (Reply 7):
This is absolutely insane.....

YYC-MAD? Ive seen it all officially.

And with this my day is complete, it is all coming to pass as I had assumed.  Smile


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7982 times:

Really?

so tell me how Iberia is goign to make Calgary work, with no connections to the oil patch? Do you even know the traffic mix out of Calgary? Remember that its currently past the workday in Spain, and yet there is no corporate announcement on the Iberia website.


User currently offlineSuperdawg From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7958 times:

It could very well be that these may just be charter flights just like those from Korea, Japan etc. We'll have to wait and see till later today.

User currently offlineJamincan From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7959 times:

Okay, so when I pulled up the original bilateral agreement from 1988, it seems that YUL was the sole destination that Spanish airlines could operate (with beyond rights to MEX). I imagine this has been modified since, but in the absence of a liberalized air service agreement, traffic rights for Spain-YYC seem really surprising. The CTA doesn't specify what route authority exists, so the only document I could access that specified the routes was the original from the UN. Does anyone know what the bilateral says? I wonder if the Sun just got this mixed up and IB will simply be introducing a codeshare with BA. Otherwise, kudos to YYC.

User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1010 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7947 times:



Quoting FLYYUL (Reply 10):
so tell me how Iberia is goign to make Calgary work, with no connections to the oil patch? Do you even know the traffic mix out of Calgary? Remember that its currently past the workday in Spain, and yet there is no corporate announcement on the Iberia website.

See I don't get bogged down in the "details" when I hear stuff like this. I like planes, and aviation in general. If they think they can make it work than they announce the route. After that I just look forward to seeing them come into YYC.

Call it ignorance, I call it letting an airline run itself and not get caught up in internet quarterbacking.

I just love how quickly the YYC hate can come out of the woodwork with even the potential for something like this. Like I said no surprise. Perhaps Encana is subsidizing the route so their employees can go to Spain and its beaches for holidays?  Wink


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7901 times:
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Is not insane... is a craziness!!!!!

Any scheduled flight of Iberia from MAD to YYC for the next year.

Is the same as I put a new topic like: IB DIRECT FLIGHTS FROM BJZ TO HKGBig grin

If I don't remember bad, Air Comet has flown from MAD to YMQ this summer with 310 equipment (not Trudeau. Was an airport at one hour driving from downtown but I don't remember exactly which airport was).

Any chance to see this airline flying to YYC?

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1010 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7881 times:

Here I'll cool some of you guys down some, perhaps the Sun got a particularly dumb reporter with regards to aviation(aren't they all?) and the announcement is simply a codeshare on the BA route to LHR? Would that meet with everyone's approval? Big grin

User currently offlineSuperdawg From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7835 times:

If it is a codeshare service why all the fuss? Why would the Mayor and such attend a press conference just to announce a codeshare. Doesn't make sense. It will be interesting to see what comes of this today.

User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7835 times:

When and where is this press conference?

User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1010 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7811 times:



Quoting FLYYUL (Reply 17):
When and where is this press conference?

Today, and one would assume Calgary for the press conference. Last I checked our mayor didn't leave town in the last 24 hours or so.


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7778 times:

Ok I just checked newswire and CCN Matthews, and there is no indicated on any impending press conference.

Still no schedule on Iberia.com or amadeus.net, and still nothing on the Iberia website (keep in mind that it is now after 6pm in MAD).


User currently offlineAccargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7591 times:



Quoting C172Akula (Reply 13):
I just love how quickly the YYC hate can come out of the woodwork with even the potential for something like this. Like I said no surprise.

Oh please get over yourself. Where is the YYC hate? People are saying that IBERIA can't make bigger markets work and you expect them to make a smaller market like YYC work. It wouldn't matter if it was YYC, YEG, YHZ, SCL, STL, or whatever.


User currently offlineAuroraLives From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7584 times:



Quoting C172Akula (Reply 13):
I just love how quickly the YYC hate can come out of the woodwork with even the potential for something like this.

Having read this thread from a completely neutral perspective (i.e. I have little vested interest in either YYC, MAD or Iberia) me thinks you're a little paranoid. I see no YYC hate... just honest probing questions regarding the article.


User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1666 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7520 times:

I don't know why it's so far-fetched that a carrier like IB would undertake a less than daily seasonal service? It would surprise me if it was more than that, but politicians call news conferences all the time to make announcements about marginal services if it makes them look busy.

User currently offlineAirCatalonia From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7512 times:

Besides all the craziness about the economic viability of the route, I think this is a clear sign of LH not being after IB as it would make no sense to have two flights to Europe from YYC (one to FRA and one to MAD), wouldn't it? Or are they expecting some kind of economic boom in Calgary?

[Edited 2007-12-11 09:03:28]

User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1666 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7479 times:



Quoting AirCatalonia (Reply 23):
Or are they expecting some kind of economic boom in Calgary?

Nice sense of humor.


25 Post contains images FLYACYYZ : Is that some little used Freudian expression like "Penis envy"?? I would be equally as perplexed if Miat Mongolian Airlines was planning service betw
26 C172Akula : Not at all. Tell me are you a psychiatrist? But it is a common theme that a lot of us from Alberta tend to see lately in light of our economic succes
27 Post contains images Flyb : Nice, I new there was a reason I was moving to Calgary Just in time for awesome service to Europe.
28 Bmacleod : YYC is becoming or already is Canada's DFW. OK so Calgary doesn't have scorching hot summers or a large latino population but I'm referring to the pre
29 Tuffer : I think there was a mistake with the Sun's reporters Mixing up the "Spanish" Airline. Hola, Mexicana Airline plans four Calgary flights per week Gina
30 FLYYUL : Bravo Calgary Sun!!!!! It's Mexicana and not Iberia... great journalism!
31 C172Akula : Oh you have got to be kidding me! This just proves my hatred of the sun even further! They couldn't even get the right country?
32 Post contains images SandroZRH : So much about the "Hate" against Calgary and Iberia serving YYC.
33 C172Akula : Hey guys I'm going to fly to Europe on Mexicana, the Sun said I could! The one time I trust that fishwrap in the slightest... I work only a couple blo
34 Post contains images Travelin man : Ha! Iberia, Mexicana, whatever. They all speak Spanish, no? What a screw-up by the reporter.
35 C172Akula : Oh it still exists, we'll just wait for the next actual 'big' announcement to come out for more of that. Or I'm sure someone will start the usual YYC
37 Tuffer : Still even with the hope it was going to be another big euro airline in YYC this announcement is nice. MEX was a bit of a hole in the Calgary network
38 Threepoint : Happy 319 spotting. You don't get much of those in YYC do you? Muchas booyas a todos. The only routes Encana is sponsoring are the paths to Saskatche
39 Irobertson : Sorry dude, YMQ is like saying LON for London England. It's the general code for the Montreal Metropolitan area. Everything would still have gone to
40 Samurai 777 : A newspaper getting the airline name wrong?! Wow. Just wow. The Sun is just more or less a tabloid masquerading as a newspaper.
41 C172Akula : Breaking news! I heard absolutely nothing about a slowdown before, breathing room is something we need. You know not all of us are oil & gas dependan
42 Evolv : it will be good to see a new tail at YYC
43 AFKLMLHLX : What I do not get about IB is that they hardly have any service to the US and Canada and nothing in Asia and yet Calgary is coming to fruition? Calgar
44 Threepoint : And breathing room is what you will get. It's a very welcome situation for many residents. I know intimately what the economy of Calgary revolves aro
45 BO__einG : Holy shit! Calgary does have flights to spain, or more like once did have flights to Spain. They were from the ones I have seen strictly charters. I c
46 AFKLMLHLX : Sorry...did not read the whole post. AFKLMLHLX
47 FLYYUL : People need to read.. its such an easy thing to do
48 CYLW : Um, you may wanna read the whole thread. No Iberia, just Mexicana
49 WA707atMSP : Obviously, the reporters at the Sun must have received a new shipment, to make a journalistic error of this magnitude!
50 Post contains images C172Akula : I agree fully, there has been enough humour in this thread as is. Now we have people jumping in without reading the whole thing! I agree with you on
51 Threepoint : And too bad it's no longer a Star carrier either, although it will be nice for Albertans to have the option of flying to South America without having
52 Edmonchuck : This is just too funny. I normally heavily dislike the sun, but now, it is full on HATE!!!! The route sounded funny, but I waited to see the actual pr
53 Pzurita1 : And there is a second Mexican carrier cooking a flight from YYC to a couple of Mexican destinations. All I can say is they fly very good looking a/c.
54 C172Akula : Didn't Aeromexico operate some flights into YYC this last summer? I seem to recall seeing them on the ARR/DEP boards on the website. You know this ar
55 Post contains images Worldrider : i guess "new laboratory" made hey??
56 Post contains images Worldrider : all first class flight to MAD with maintenance in IBizaaa guaranteed ? Carrammba!!!
57 BO__einG : Well don't I feel like an idiot. I didn't have time to read the posts not even to skim it as I was too overly excited. Dam, Well I guess I will save t
58 Multimark : I guess the labour shortage is making it difficult for the Calgary Sun to hire good journalists. Confusing Iberia and Mexicana? Good grief.
59 Scrumpy492003 : Yes, Aeromexico did come in hare last summer, quite a few times!! I followed the link on our TV station website, to mexicana, to their fleet. It lists
60 Post contains images BO__einG : ^ I do look at the sunshine girls. Oftentimes that will be the only reason why I will poke around in the Sun. Otherwise relating to this frenzy, it wa
61 AR385 : 20, 30 or 40 years ago, nobody in Mexico had issues about flying AeroMexico. Mexicana and AeroMexico have been great airlines and the first in Latin
62 Jamincan : Obviously it reflects careless journalism; anyone who expected more out of the Sun newspapers is grossly misguided. One newspaper's shoddy journalism
63 Post contains images AirCatalonia : hey, bob, will ya write the article about the spanish airline? yeah, I'll do dat! [Bob goes google "spanish airline"] There you are: Mexicana becomes
64 Post contains images FLYACYYZ : I can just see the headlines in the Calgary Sun travel section -- "THERE's A NEW SOMBRERO IN THE SKY" Mexicana, featuring top-notch In-Flight Service.
65 Threepoint : It isn't. Yet. Standards are eroding. As can be evidenced by the fact the Sun even has a devoted readership. For the most part, yes. It isn't that si
66 Viscount724 : Not quite. There are significant French-speaking communities in several other parts of Canada. I believe the province of New Brunswick is still the o
67 Drgmobile : It's not "YYC hate," it's folks with industry experience challenging suggestions from folks who don't seem to base their assertions on anything solid.
68 Evolv : I agree with you on some points. However YYC has just as much of a chance of getting international service as YUL and YVR. I'm going to bet that YYC
69 Scrumpy492003 : Per post 61 ... My info regarding the opinions of Mexicana and AeroMexico are from Residents of Guadalajara at that time, 25 years ago. HOWEVER ... th
70 Ghost77 : What? Really... why not YYZ, YUL or YVR before YYC? The only capable of this due to fleet and seats overcapacity in Mexico and not flying to Canada i
71 Irobertson : Various parts of Nova Scotia, St. Boniface in Winnipeg (huge french community)... I'd like to see Iberia in YYZ and YUL first before YYC.
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