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Airbus A350XWB Order Thread.  
User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4323 times:

AIRBUS A350XWB ORDER THREAD.



Since its industrial launch in December 2006, the Airbus A350 XWB has managed to gather a total of 437 orders/commitments, from 24 customers, of which 298 frames have been firmed up until this present date.

* Order currently a MOU or LOI.


AIRBUS A350-800



Aeroflot x 18
Afriqiyah x 6
Alafco x 12
CASGC China x 20* (No model breakdown given)
C JET x 1* VIP (No model breakdown given)
CIT x 5
DAE Capital x 30* (No model breakdown given)
Hawaiian Air x 6*
ILFC x 12
Kingfisher x 20*
Libyan Airlines x 4
Pegasus x 2
Qatar x 20
TAM x 22* (No model breakdown given)
Tap Portugal x 12
US Airways x 18
Yemenia x 10

Total Firm: 119 frames
Total Pending: 99 frames

AIRBUS A350-900



Aeroflot x 4
Aer Lingus x 6*
CIT x 2
China Airlines 14*
Emirates x 50
Finnair x 11
Group Marsans x 10*
ILFC x 8
Qatar x 40
Singapore Airlines x 20
US Airways x 4
Vietnam Airlines x 10*

Total Firm: 139 frames
Total Pending: 40 frames


AIRBUS A350-1000



Emirates x 20
Qatar x 20

Total Firm: 40 frames
Total Pending: 0 frames

AIRBUS A350 CUSTOMERS (NON -XWB)

Air Europa x 10
Eurofly x 3
GECAS x 10 (never firmed up)
Bangkok Airways x 6 (never firmed up)

Airbus still has four non-XWB customers to sign up for the ''new'' version. Bangkok Airways has indicated that discussions are taking place with Airbus to convert their original MOU into a firm order.

Bangkok Airways In Final A350XWB Talks (by Flying-Tiger Oct 11 2007 in Civil Aviation)

The remaining airlines have yet to announce their intentions. The less likely customer to convert their original order is GECAS, as GE is currently not an option on the A350XWB.

If any of the information is not accurate, please fell free to inform.

Regards,
Wings

[Edited 2007-12-11 09:54:59]


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User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3866 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4308 times:

I think the following info is also worth repeating in this thread -

The A350XWB conversions stand as follows -

US Airways - gross 22 net 2
ALAFCO - gross 12 net 0
Kingfisher - gross 20 net 15 (currently not firm, original A350 order stands at 5)
TAM - gross 22 net 12 (currently not firm, original A350 order stands at 10)
CIT - gross 7 net 2
TAP - gross 12 net 2
ILFC - gross 20 net 8
Finnair - gross 11 net 2

Total conversions stand at a net gain of 16 firm, 27 unfirm.


User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4163 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 1):
I think the following info is also worth repeating in this thread -

The A350XWB conversions stand as follows -

US Airways - gross 22 net 2
ALAFCO - gross 12 net 0
Kingfisher - gross 20 net 15 (currently not firm, original A350 order stands at 5)
TAM - gross 22 net 12 (currently not firm, original A350 order stands at 10)
CIT - gross 7 net 2
TAP - gross 12 net 2
ILFC - gross 20 net 8
Finnair - gross 11 net 2

Total conversions stand at a net gain of 16 firm, 27 unfirm.

It sure does. Thank You for pointing out those figures.  Smile

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

Thanks WINGS and Moo.
This is a topic that will be visited alot duing 2008 (atleast by me).
2008, I suspect, will be an awesome year for the A350.
I hope for more orders especially for the -1000 series.

Think if SAS would get some A350's to replace their A330's and A340's. I'd be a faithfull customer.


User currently offlineJdevora From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 351 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3587 times:



Quoting Chiad (Reply 3):
This is a topic that will be visited alot duing 2008 (atleast by me).
2008, I suspect, will be an awesome year for the A350.
I hope for more orders especially for the -1000 series.

After seen that 3 of the deals confirmed in recent weeks have delivery dates for 2017 I'm wondering what the status of the earlier slots are. If they are almost full, I think that we have to wait a bit, because I don't think that any airline is willing to wait 10 years ifor a new plane Don't you think?

Cheers
JD


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3374 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3527 times:

Someone mentioned that AB has set a deadline of the end of this year for the outstanding XNB orders to be cancelled or converted so I guess that we're going to see something from Air Europa and EuroFly in the coming couple of weeks - I wouldn't be suprised if Europa cancelled as they did state that that they were reassessing the requirement and looking at the 787.

User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3866 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3459 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 5):
Someone mentioned that AB has set a deadline of the end of this year for the outstanding XNB orders to be cancelled or converted so I guess that we're going to see something from Air Europa and EuroFly in the coming couple of weeks - I wouldn't be suprised if Europa cancelled as they did state that that they were reassessing the requirement and looking at the 787.

I wonder how they class such orders as Kingfishers, which are firm for the A350 for 5 frames, but unfirm for the XWB for 20 frames...


User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3370 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 6):
I wonder how they class such orders as Kingfishers, which are firm for the A350 for 5 frames, but unfirm for the XWB for 20 frames...

Airbus still lists 5 A350's for Kingfisher, although they have signed a MOU for the conversion of those 5 A350's + 15 A350XWB's.

As you can see I have listed Kingfisher as currently a MOU/LOI.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2931 times:

Vietnam Air inks deal for 30 Airbus planes

http://www.thanhniennews.com/business/?catid=2&newsid=34363



Airbus Chief Operating Officer John Leahy signs a document at a ceremony in Hanoi December 21, 2007
National flag carrier Vietnam Airlines is set to sign a contract to buy 10 Airbus A350-900XWB passenger jets and 20 single-aisle A321 jets today.

“This is part of the agreement reached earlier,” an official of the Hanoi-based carrier told Reuters Thursday.

In early October, the airline signed a draft agreement to buy the 30 Airbus aircraft during a visit to Paris by Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung.

The Airbus deals are worth $3.8 billion at list prices, including US$2.4 billion for the crucial A350 order where the competition between Boeing and Airbus is at its fiercest.

Vietnam Airlines, under pressure to keep up with demand as the southeast Asian country’s economy grows at more than eight percent a year and tourism and trade with it, has 46 aircraft but wants to increase that to 86 by 2015.


Link to the original thread:
Vietnam Airlines Signes For 30 Airbus Planes (by Beaucaire Dec 21 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2561 times:



Quoting WINGS (Reply 8):
10 Airbus A350-900XWB passenger jets

So that would mean that Airbus now has 308 firm-orders for the A350.
Good numbers.
I wonder if there will be a rush of firming up during the next 10 days now.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6866 posts, RR: 63
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2340 times:



Quoting Chiad (Reply 9):
I wonder if there will be a rush of firming up during the next 10 days now.

It's high time Aer Lingus firmed their order and I'd like to see the TAM order finalised. The others - such as Hawaiian, Grupo Marsans, DAE, China Airlines - may have to wait till 2008.

Do we expect the two Libyan orders to appear on the December spreadsheet?


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