LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26835 posts, RR: 50 Posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2401 times:
So 61.4% LF on the branded ops. Obviously still in the red.
Now that they XJT must report its city-pair data to the DOT if someone is bored feel free to look up the info to see what markets might be working better then others both load and yield wise.
Quote: ExpressJet Reports November 2007 Performance
HOUSTON, Dec. 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- ExpressJet Holdings today announced traffic and capacity results for November 2007 for its ExpressJet Airlines subsidiary. The results include statistics for both contract and branded operations. The contract operation consists of flying for Continental Airlines and Delta Air Lines under capacity purchase agreements and ExpressJet's charter service. The branded operation includes flying under the ExpressJet name and pro-rate flying for Delta Air Lines.
During the month, ExpressJet revenue passenger miles (RPM) under contract flying totaled 670 million and available seat miles (ASM) flown were 869 million. ExpressJet's November load factor was 77.1%. The company flew 60,291 block hours and operated 32,043 departures during the month.
During the month, ExpressJet branded RPMs totaled 167 million on 272 million ASMs, resulting in a November load factor of 61.4%. The company flew 15,675 block hours and operated 8,148 departures during the month. The average stage length in the branded operation was 669 miles.
Juventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2223 times:
Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 1): Utilization looks high though - higher than on their CO flying; depending on yields, the losses might not be as bad as the load factor would lead you to believe.
A 61% load factor is bad, no way around that. The looses are not staggering because they operate RJs, a load factor like that on bigger metal could be disastrous. Anybody here think its time for them to approach a major before its too late?????
DesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2217 times:
I flew XJet once over the summer from TUS-SMF. The flight was great, audio and snack service, were a pleasant suprise. But wih only 2 flights a day in the TUS-SMF market, I continue with WN that has multi-options with one-stops and connections. Many of the TUS-SMF markets are one flight a day only and do not offer connecting service. While returing from SMF to TUS on the day after Thanksgiving I noticed that my flight to LAS was running late and that a connection to TUS would be almost impossible. A gate agent simply rebooked me on an alternative route. A running late or cancelled XJet flight would leave few options. To change loyalty from WN to XJet for my frequently flown on TUS-SMF trips does not make sense for me.
Pgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2047 times:
Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 4): I'm sure they already have. Is it ever too late for them? Can't they just turn back to CO whichever RJ's they don't want to operate?
I think that was a one-time only option for them and they decided to keep the planes. I think they're stuck with them now. I'm with Juventus that it's time to approach a major. If they could fly their routes at the very least with a mileage partnership, it would make a big difference.
RJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2026 times:
I suspect some of the poorer performers were the DL at risk flying (LAX-MFE) for example and I have noticed many of those flights are being pulled down.. It states where those figures are included in the branded flying..
I still like their plan , and I keep telling them to raise their fares (alot) and that they still wont lose much traffic, but they seem commited to the low fare approach where there really is no need to be THAT low in most of their nonstop markets!
CitrusCritter From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1134 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1987 times:
My roommate recently flew them JAX-AUS and they had WN undercut in the market despite XE being n/s and WN being direct, one-stop. I'm pretty sure the rule of thumb is that most folks will pay more for a n/s. Either way, undercutting WN is not likely to be a profitable venture with an ERJ-145.
Jumbojettim From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1801 times:
Oh no, lets hear all the doomsdayers!
Granted high LF's don't equal profit, but I would like to know what WN's LF was when they started up. A 61% LF is not that bad for being in operation for 8 months and in the month of November.
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1787 times:
Quoting DesertAir (Reply 3): running late or cancelled XJet flight would leave few options.
Considering they're already tied in with 2 majors (CO/DL) and at the time an LCC (F9) I would assume they have interline agreements and need be could interline you over on another airline. Sure it might include a few extra hours or an extra connection, but it gets you home. Good luck finding an interline on WN.
JBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3180 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1750 times:
Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 10): Considering they're already tied in with 2 majors (CO/DL) and at the time an LCC (F9) I would assume they have interline agreements and need be could interline you over on another airline.
The main interline partner, if it became necessary to do so, is Delta.