LIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 10354 times:
First two routes Brussels-NY, Paris-NY with 752 (2 classes - 102 seats).
BRITISH AIRWAYS has appointed a group of top executives to the board of BA European, a new subsidiary that will start flights from European cities to America next summer.
The " airline within an airline" is expected to fly from Paris and Brussels to New York from May.
The official launch for BA European is expected within the next month. It is not known what brand it will fly under, but it is expected to operate two Boeing 757s with about 102 seats in two classes, Club World and World Traveller Plus.
BA European is BA's response to the introduction of "open skies" between Europe and America, which allows European airlines to fly from anywhere in Europe to the US, and vice versa.
LAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 8378 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10314 times:
Since AF officially came with LHR-LAX yesterday, its no surprise that BA is firing right back. Tit-for-tat. Ive watched it happen here in LAX with DL and UA over the last year. When one announces service on anothers turf, the other will fire right back.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 24554 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10257 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2): How does the reduced seating configuration improve the range, if at all? Can the 757s make it Chicago or Miami?
CO 752s fly up to about 4000 miles TATL. Both BRU and CDG are about 4150 miles from ORD, so there's very little range improvement required there. It's about 4600 miles to MIA from those two cities, which still isn't a huge jump when you consider that BA has torn out 100 seats.
I wonder if the announcement of JFK first has something to do with the desire to get these routes announced (and, in a perfect world, running) prior to capacity restrictions at JFK. JFK is clearly the best place for this type of service, but there's also urgency at JFK not present at other airports.
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PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2772 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10046 times:
Will BA be refurbishing their 757 cabins to look like the 737NG with the 'Signature' interior? IT sure would make them look good. Winglets would look great on BA's 757s, and add even more range for them. Any word if they'll get winglets too?
TristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4355 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9090 times:
Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 8): Will BA be refurbishing their 757 cabins to look like the 737NG with the 'Signature' interior? IT sure would make them look good. Winglets would look great on BA's 757s, and add even more range for them. Any word if they'll get winglets too?
The cabins will not be changed. The galleys and toilets will stay where they are.
All the seats will be new. The Club seats are Old Club World flat beds, which are being refurbished. WTP and WT seats are new (last I heard there will be WT as well) The WTP seats are better than the current WTP seats.
Yes winglets WILL be installed. They are ordered and will be installed by BA at LHR on PEJ and PEK starting mid Feb.
Quoting PM (Reply 13): Absolutely. But if they prove the concept with 757s then the 767s would open more markets because of the range and - perhaps - added passenger appeal.
If the loads are good, the B767 that are withdrawn from longhaul in 2010 (when the B787 arrive) will go to Lauren.
B747-4U3 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2002, 998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8993 times:
Quoting BrusselsSouth (Reply 19): And now BA ? Can the Brussels-NYC market support so many flights (even counting connections) ?
Don't forget that many of the passengers who will use this service might previously have used BA via LHR. Direct flights are obviously more convenient for passengers and by skipping LHR BA are freeing up extra capacity there.
Jimbo27L From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8409 times:
Quoting B747-4U3 (Reply 20): Don't forget that many of the passengers who will use this service might previously have used BA via LHR. Direct flights are obviously more convenient for passengers and by skipping LHR BA are freeing up extra capacity there
Indeed. And dont forget that the CW and WTP only cabin will give it an exclusive feel which will no doubt prove to be a great selling point over the competition....
Has to be basically a BA / British Airways brand if they are to build on the existing BA brand franchise. How about 'British Airways New York'? They could use the existing Union Flag livery and simply add to the existing titles.
An original thought? Well, not exactly. Remember these: