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A319 Landed In Antartica  
User currently offlineJasondn From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 207 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16746 times:

Just thought I share the news that an A319 landed on the Wilkins Runway!

Apparently it will be doing flights for scientists and researchers only. The aircraft doesn't refuel there and returns to Hobart from where the flights will be taking place more frequently.

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User currently offlineAdman737 From Ecuador, joined Sep 2007, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16685 times:

How long of a flight is it? and what aircraft is it like reg number? that is real cool.

User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16652 times:

Thanks for letting us know about this...very interesting...

The A319 appears to be this one...VH-VHD


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Photo © George Canciani



Photos of the A319 in Antarctica and article of this story available here:
http://www.aad.gov.au/default.asp?casid=17



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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16631 times:

The A319 replaced the Antarctic Research Institutes ship that was used to ferry people and supplies. By boat it was taking upwards of 4 days each way, now it's only a matter of hours.

User currently offlinePlatinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16591 times:

When do tickets go on sale?  biggrin 


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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16576 times:

Quoting Platinumfoota (Reply 4):
When do tickets go on sale?

When you get your PhD and they offer you a job.   


"Each flight will take approx 4.3 hours in either direction. The aircraft will spend 2-3 hours on the ground in Antarctica before returning to Hobart."

http://www.aad.gov.au/default.asp?casid=33742

[Edited 2007-12-12 23:12:16]

User currently offlineAdman737 From Ecuador, joined Sep 2007, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 16380 times:

WOW very cool i wanna be on that flight. i wonder if u get a meal on that flight lol.

User currently offlineAllrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2196 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 15816 times:



Quoting Platinumfoota (Reply 4):
When do tickets go on sale?

Dear Potential Antarctican Plane Spotter,

We regret to inform you that your anorak is not thick enough to protect you against the local weather conditions and due to safety regulations we cannot allow you on the base.

Kind regards,

Australian Antarctic Division

 duck 



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User currently offlineRazza74 From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 15752 times:

I will ask my close friend to ask his partner to see if he can take some photos as he is one of the pilots

What a job if you can get it

Razza74



Ahh the joy of living under a flightpath
User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 15701 times:



Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 5):
When you get your PhD and they offer you a job.

No you don't have to. Some lucky Masters students do go to Antartica for field work. A lot of times, it is the good old Hercules or Starlifter from Christchurch though.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4845 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15670 times:



Quoting Cchan (Reply 9):
No you don't have to. Some lucky Masters students do go to Antartica for field work. A lot of times, it is the good old Hercules or Starlifter from Christchurch though.

Not anymore.... starlifters are gone...
Hercs, and C-17 Globemaster IIIs these days... the C-17 is a sexy beast  Wink



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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2177 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15567 times:

Interesting...used to be no full engine shutdown in the past down there......watching the mp4 obvious both 1 and 2 are shut and ac runs on the apu.

User currently offlineCharliejag1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 14694 times:



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 10):
the C-17 is a sexy beast

Indeed she is, that minx.


User currently offlineBAW716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2028 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 14559 times:

I would imagine that operations could only be really carried out during the months that it is light there...in winter, things get a bit nasty down there...I have to think that even an A319 (with high power/weight ratio) would have trouble stopping on ice in winter. Thoughts?

baw716



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2745 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12806 times:

I can't get the video to work, can anyone insert the video here?

So cool! I wish they had flights south when I was in Hobart in 1993!


User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4127 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12484 times:
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Forgive me for asking what may be a stupid question but...

How does one brake an aircraft on ice ? Is the ice especially treated (grooves,...) to make it less slippery than it otherwise would be or is the combined work of the thrust reversers and spoilers enough ?



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12484 times:



Quoting Jasondn (Thread starter):

Apparently it will be doing flights for scientists and researchers only.

Not that strange, considering the lack of hotel rooms and the ghastly night life.

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2177 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 12155 times:

Re the video...the server it is on is slow....open the link and be prepared to wait for quite a bit before the whole thing comes down....

User currently offlineTmamtrak From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 12014 times:

It doesn't seem that the A319 would have the range to fly for almost 9 hours including two takeoffs, landings, and a stopover (with APU running) without refueling at Antarctica. Does anybody else have any thoughts on this?

User currently offlineSNA350 From Belgium, joined Dec 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11926 times:



Quoting Tmamtrak (Reply 19):

I guess a huge payload penalty



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User currently offlineWagz From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 516 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11569 times:
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Quoting Tmamtrak (Reply 19):
It doesn't seem that the A319 would have the range to fly for almost 9 hours including two takeoffs, landings, and a stopover (with APU running) without refueling at Antarctica. Does anybody else have any thoughts on this?

I assume that this is actually an A319CJ like the ones operated by PrivatAir over the Atlantic everyday. Sort of an Airbus equivelant to the BBJ. They supposedly feature several extra auxillary fuel tanks in some of the cargo space. The aircraft/data section of A.net lists the range of these aircraft as 6300nm making a trip of this sort easy.



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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4690 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11497 times:



Quoting SNA350 (Reply 20):
I guess a huge payload penalty

 checkmark  I'm 100% sure this aircraft has auxiliary tanks.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1570 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11352 times:



Quoting SNA350 (Reply 20):
I guess a huge payload penalty

I guess that means less booze! I know If I was going to Antartica for a few months, I would want to drink the entire flight there!!!  Big grin



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User currently offlineJasondn From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11353 times:



Quoting Wagz (Reply 21):
I assume that this is actually an A319CJ like the ones operated by PrivatAir over the Atlantic everyday.

It is the A319 LR version.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7764 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11089 times:

I think that opening it up for commercial passengers would be a mistake.

If they do so, then it will not remain pristine for long.


25 SKAirbus : What about De-icing... Do they have the facilities down there to de-ice a medium sized airliner???
26 BeechNut : And on top of that the nights last 6 months... Beech
27 Caspritz78 : I don't think that is necessary. Antarctica is besides a desert the driest place on earth. It doesn't rain in Antarctica and if it is snowing you can
28 CBPhoto : I forgot to address this in my last post, but I believe I saw a video of the DC-6 or 7 (cant remember which it was) landing in Antarctica, and I beli
29 Can258 : Thats incredible but how can it stop on ice runway. Probably no brakes used at all as CBPhoto said only reverse thrust and spoilers... By the way does
30 Can258 : How did it approach? Are there any instruments there such as VOR DME NDB ?
31 RFields5421 : It's the middle of the summer down there now - hardly as cold as Sapporo, or Helsinki. Anti-skid really helps - but easy on the brakes and use revers
32 Jasondn : GPS I would imagine
33 Post contains links RFields5421 : Take a look at these photos on how the runway is built / prepared - note the runway is "Snow Capped" not Ice. http://www.aad.gov.au/default.asp?casid=
34 Post contains images Gigneil : Its a pretty technologically advanced runway. That ice is grooved, yes, and it isn't really slippery at all. From what I've been told, it behaves a l
35 RFields5421 : Wilkins Runway Named after the legendary patron and pioneer of early Antarctic aviation, Sir Hubert Wilkins, the Wilkins Runway is located approximate
36 Post contains links ECONOMICS : check out operators website ... http://www.skytraders.com.au & then click on Antarctica. The Airlink will operate between Hobart and Antarctica betwee
37 Gigneil : They could use it for shuttling people around, I'm not sure the expedition is set up for charter business. They could, also, just keep it on the groun
38 Post contains images BuyantUkhaa : Funny to have an airport moving 12m per year. But then, if all the markers and papis move along, they should be OK Some pictures:
39 Post contains links Allrite : According to the operator's website the plane can be chartered for business or government missions.
40 Pizzaandplanes : What happens to the runway after summer is done down under? Does it disappear in the massive snowfall they have?
41 Post contains images Amax1977 : Sorry for the irrelevant question that I have to ask: How can I get pricing information for a brand new ACJ? I couldn't find it on airbus's website.
42 Zkpilot : They don't have massive snowfall. In fact Antarctica is the driest continent on earth despite the appearance of ice etc. As for the runway, it does r
43 N1120A : The A319LR is derived from the ACJ, just with fewer ACTs. They don't need all the cargo/baggage space and likely don't carry huge passenger loads, wh
44 Post contains images Pellegrine : PhD be damned, I'm stepping foot on Antarctica sometime in my life. Wouldn't want to stay long though, all that isolation must make for some sexual fr
45 Post contains images YLWbased : or maybe the TPWV(Two Pilots with Visual) System.
46 CptSpeaking : Interesting...looks like the hot exhaust from the APU has melted some of the snow behind the aircaft causing the surface to become more shiny...
47 ECONOMICS : Sounds very adhoc !!! They'd surely be better off getting regular charter work, like a few set days a week !!!
48 RFields5421 : Look at the website for the Australian Antarctic operation - they show you how the runway is rebuilt every year. But it took a couple years of rebuil
49 Post contains links OceansWorld : Here's a short video of the landing and more. http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/c...bram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&nbram=1&asb=1
50 Post contains links and images Irobertson : Suddenly an A319 landing in Antarctica seems like peanuts when I came across this picture of an IL-76 parked on the continent! View Large View MediumP
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