ECONOMICS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9581 times:
With talk of Southwest & other U.S. domestic operators reducing capacity next year, they must be either parking or selling 737-300's or 737-500's or both.
FXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7023 posts, RR: 93 Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9574 times:
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9555 times:
They dispose of them like every other airline in the world does. Those worth resale are resold..... those beyond their value are scraped
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5932 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9229 times:
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9172 times:
Quoting ECONOMICS (Thread starter): With talk of Southwest & other U.S. domestic operators reducing capacity next year, they must be either parking or selling 737-300's or 737-500's or both.
How do they sell them or are many leased?
Heard that might be some heading down under?
Early last week, the first scheduled -300 retirement took place, when N319SW came off the line. It's a leased aircraft, and will be going back to the lessor in a few days. Reportedly, 2 other leased -300s will also come off the line in December, and another 3 in January 2008. Those 6 could end up anywhere, and 2 of them are non-3H4 models we acquired from somewhere else. None of the 25 737-500s have gone anywhere.
I don't know (off hand) how many are owned/leased, but IIRC about 70% of our fleet is owned and the rest leased. The original -300s (N300SW, N301SW, and N302SW) are all older than the retired N319SW, but are owned, yet their age dictates they'll also be retired at some point. Exactly when is anyone's guess, so stay tuned.
RamperMAF From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 17 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8961 times:
ha Graphic, beat me to it. typical southwest fashion, huh? i sure wouldnt mind taking one off their hands, spending some scratch and turning it into a fine life-size simulator out in the back yard. like to see the neighbors beat that.
Tango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3725 posts, RR: 31 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8949 times:
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 5): and 2 of them are non-3H4 models we acquired from somewhere else.
Might these be the ex-AirCal/American -300s? (N674AA and N675AA iirc).
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8915 times:
Quoting ECONOMICS (Thread starter): With talk of Southwest & other U.S. domestic operators reducing capacity next year, they must be either parking or selling 737-300's or 737-500's or both.
Southwest wont be reducing capacity. They may slow capacity growth, but a reduction is not in the cards.
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 5):
I don't know (off hand) how many are owned/leased, but IIRC about 70% of our fleet is owned and the rest leased.
As I can tell, it seems that the majority of the leased aircraft are ones that were acquired second hand.
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Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5975 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7774 times:
They leave them in mall parking lots with the keys in the ignition.
Jpdflymhtmlb From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 75 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6458 times:
No no no, you all have it wrong. Disposing of an aircraft is a very painstaking and detailed process, usually involving late nights and what seems almost like games to finally finish...
2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8950 posts, RR: 62 Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5216 times:
If you'll search for "737-2H4" in the photo database, you'll see that the ex-SWA birds now come in a variety of new colors...
A couple have been lost in accidents by their new operators. One was written-off after a bad landing in one of the whatever-istans (Almay?) and another was lost in a CFIT crash in the Phillipines, both those events occurring a few years back. What's left of N102SW is over at the Frontiers of Flight Museum at DAL, and N67SW is parked at DAL and is use as a trainer for ramp and provisioning folks. One is a restaurant at the ARG airport up in Arkansas, and some have been broken up at MHV. There were some parked at IGM, and some of them may have met the same fate. I think a couple were also broken up at OKC and Opa Locka.
Tb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1375 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4670 times:
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 24): I think a couple were also broken up at OKC and Opa Locka.
I saw a couple when picking up freight in ARG (Walnut Ridge, Ark) as well. That was kind of a nice surprise seeing some SW 732's and CO MD-80's there at a 5000' strip. I know one of them was N90SW and the other was N86SW.
SXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2005 posts, RR: 19 Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4566 times:
Hey Guys:
I am new to this forum and this is actually my second post! - I am a huge WN fan and I figure I might comment on this topic.
I have had the privilege to fly on ship 322 which is set to be retired soon, Hopefully 322 wont become a restaurant or anything else like that! I suppose these a/c will still have some time left to be spent with some other airlines somewhere in the world. Maybe one of the WN employees might know this but any idea of N317WN is next on the list to be phased out- WN got it from Easyjet in 1999.
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3997 times:
Wasn't there a 732, once operated by WN, that became an artificial reef a few years back? There was a big production made of it (the sinking) for TV that I remember seeing. A practical method of ridding unwanted airframes.
Regards.
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OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3872 times:
Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 19): Wasn't there a 732, once operated by WN, that became an artificial reef a few years back? There was a big production made of it (the sinking) for TV that I remember seeing.
Nothing comes to mind... Maybe another airline's bird? Maybe I was off that day...
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5932 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3327 times:
Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 19): Wasn't there a 732, once operated by WN, that became an artificial reef a few years back? There was a big production made of it (the sinking) for TV that I remember seeing. A practical method of ridding unwanted airframes.
Regards.
IIRC, this was either a Canada 3000 or a WestJet bird...I remember watching the special about it on the Discovery channel. It was sunk off the coast of the north end of Vancouver Island...
Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3274 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 21): IIRC, this was either a Canada 3000 or a WestJet bird...I remember watching the special about it on the Discovery channel. It was sunk off the coast of the north end of Vancouver Island...
SPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2094 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3226 times:
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 22): Registration number of the one sunk, anyone?
I'll look for my diving magazine. It was an Ex WestJet, America West, something else....... I had ridden Jumpseat on it several times. Look forward to diving on it as well.
They took out the floor, so it's a big tube now. You can swim in and out through any of the PAX doors or cargo doors. A platform was fabricated and attached, to it sits above the ocean floor. You can swim under.
I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5932 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2733 times:
Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 22): Westtjet did have some ex-SWA -2H4 models, although I don't know if the one sunk was one of them... Registration number of the one sunk, anyone?
It was apparently Canadi>n Airlines (ex-CP Air), registration C-GBPW.
Don't ask me how I got that, it took lots of investigative work on my part...
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25 OPNLguy: That would be a 737-275, and not an old SWA bird...
26 KELPkid: According to a.net's database, it did some time at HP, and, amazingly enough, with a Canadian registration while there. I know leases create funny si
27 OPNLguy: I'm no legal scholar, but we used to run EI-ASH, EI-BEE, and OO-TEM without re-registering them. Ditto at Air Florida with PH-TVH, PH-TVI, G-BJSM, an
28 SCCutler: I remember flying on one of the Irish-registry birds on WN quite a while back. It was white with green and blue trim; odd.
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